Ryan Wilson: Penguins trade top prospect for Pettersson Penguins trade top prospect for Pettersson

I like the trade

Nice to see the player that the Kings should have received for Pearson is now on the Ducks. Just another example of how dumb the Kings are.

I feel like Rutherford signed Sprong’s death warrant when he kept him past the 9 game try out limit. To me, this trade is Rutherford realizing Sprong isn’t NHL ready yet and trading him for a different prospect he kind of liked that could still be sent through waivers. I’m not upset we traded Sprong. Better than keeping him forever like we did with DP. But keeping Sprong up past that 9 game limit when it was super clear that Johnston/Sullivan had no use for him was the second dumbest move of The Old Man’s tenure here.

I feel like Rutherford signed Sprong’s death warrant when he kept him past the 9 game try out limit. To me, this trade is Rutherford realizing Sprong isn’t NHL ready yet and trading him for a different prospect he kind of liked that could still be sent through waivers. I’m not upset we traded Sprong. Better than keeping him forever like we did with DP. But keeping Sprong up past that 9 game limit when it was super clear that Johnston/Sullivan had no use for him was the second dumbest move of The Old Man’s tenure here.
- Victoro311

Spot on. JR botched this right from the start. It's so strange the constant disconnect between Rutherford and his coaches. Johnston wanted nothing to do with Sprong either. Honestly, I'm glad it's over.

DP kind of sucks. So it's not like he went to Van and blossomed. I think Sprong has a better chance at success than DP. RW is right however, his coaching situation didn't improve.

I feel like Rutherford signed Sprong’s death warrant when he kept him past the 9 game try out limit. To me, this trade is Rutherford realizing Sprong isn’t NHL ready yet and trading him for a different prospect he kind of liked that could still be sent through waivers. I’m not upset we traded Sprong. Better than keeping him forever like we did with DP. But keeping Sprong up past that 9 game limit when it was super clear that Johnston/Sullivan had no use for him was the second dumbest move of The Old Man’s tenure here.
- Victoro311

What’s the first: Reaves? Niemi? Dealing from a point of weakness (Ian Cole trade)? Hiring of Johnston? Signing Maatta long-term instead of Niskanen? Trading away Sheary to create cap space? Trading for Brass instead of Skinner, Kane, or a defender (Kempny seems like the type GMJR would’ve bought low on)? The Yack Yohnson signing?

What am I missing? Anyone care to put these in an order of how bad they were?

GMJR seems intent on going down blazing as this surely is the precursor to more trades. Unless he’s found a goalie, which is doubtful, I’m not sure there is anything he can do to fix the “goal prevention “ problem that characterizes this year’s team.

Actually RC has turned the corner on playing kids. Injuries and Murray demanding it has helped but also Ducks have had kids that can play recently.
Daniel is going to get chances to shine and I think he will.
Love to see him with Rico and Ritchie, or Silf.
Maybe even with Getz and Raks.

Marcus can play just needs a little time to add some weight. Good long reach, smart, makes solid passes, is getting better all the time.

What’s the first: Reaves? Niemi? Dealing from a point of weakness (Ian Cole trade)? Hiring of Johnston? Signing Maatta long-term instead of Niskanen? Trading away Sheary to create cap space? Trading for Brass instead of Skinner, Kane, or a defender (Kempny seems like the type GMJR would’ve bought low on)? The Yack Yohnson signing?

What am I missing? Anyone care to put these in an order of how bad they were?
- WSCTeton17

Don’t forget the horny extension

What’s the first: Reaves? Niemi? Dealing from a point of weakness (Ian Cole trade)? Hiring of Johnston? Signing Maatta long-term instead of Niskanen? Trading away Sheary to create cap space? Trading for Brass instead of Skinner, Kane, or a defender (Kempny seems like the type GMJR would’ve bought low on)? The Yack Yohnson signing?

What am I missing? Anyone care to put these in an order of how bad they were?
- WSCTeton17

Reaves was bad. Niemi.....bad obviously, but not a big deal. Nisky walked under Shero's tenure. Trading Sheary and his two playoff goals in his last 34 playoff games was partially to rid himself of Hunwick. It would have been a good move if he didn't puke on himself and spend the savings on JJ. Nobody thought the Brassard trade was bad at the time. We needed a center and those other guys aren't centers.

I'd say the worst is spending the savings from Sheary and Hunwick on a 5 year contract for JJ. Followed by the 1st and Sundqvist for Reaves and their 2nd.

His last two off-seasons have been tragic. Cullen, Grant, JJ, Hunwick, Niemi.....ugh.

Just don't forget the good because there's been plenty of that too.

Don’t forget the horny extension
- Feds91Stammer

Nah.

What’s the first: Reaves? Niemi? Dealing from a point of weakness (Ian Cole trade)? Hiring of Johnston? Signing Maatta long-term instead of Niskanen? Trading away Sheary to create cap space? Trading for Brass instead of Skinner, Kane, or a defender (Kempny seems like the type GMJR would’ve bought low on)? The Yack Yohnson signing?

What am I missing? Anyone care to put these in an order of how bad they were?
- WSCTeton17

Johnson by a country mile.

Nah.
- madmike71

It’s not bad or it’s not bad yet?

Spot on. JR botched this right from the start. It's so strange the constant disconnect between Rutherford and his coaches. Johnston wanted nothing to do with Sprong either. Honestly, I'm glad it's over.

DP kind of sucks. So it's not like he went to Van and blossomed. I think Sprong has a better chance at success than DP. RW is right however, his coaching situation didn't improve.
- madmike71

The thing to me is that DP has numbers very similar to JJ. And he only costs 1.1m. Had they kept DP and understood and accepted he wasn't going to put up 25+ points as a Dman, they could have slotted him as their 3rd pairing defenseman for 1.1m (or less maybe?) and they wouldn't have the need for JJ in the first place and you've got a player of similar caliber for 2.15m less without the awful term and you can use that 2.15 extra to go after better forwards or hell a better RHD.

GMJR seems intent on going down blazing as this surely is the precursor to more trades. Unless he’s found a goalie, which is doubtful, I’m not sure there is anything he can do to fix the “goal prevention “ problem that characterizes this year’s team.
- Dr Blob

What about a 3 way trade with Dallas and Chicago... something that sends Anisimov, Faksa, Lindell to Pitt while sending Olli and Sheahan to Chicago with Brassard and Gustaffson going to Dallas. Pitt receives a 4th from Dallas. Chicago receives a 3rd from Pitt and a 2nd from Dallas. Dallas retains some money on Lindell.
Pitt sends a 2nd and Rust for MoJo out of New Jersey, NJD retain salary to make it work
Anisimov is a longer term option at 3C. Lindell is an improvement over Maatta. We give up Brassard who plays 2C in Dallas. Faksa comes in for depth as does MoJo. Chicago fulfills the Maatta rumors and gets a few picks which they can keep or deal at the draft.

GMJR seems intent on going down blazing as this surely is the precursor to more trades. Unless he’s found a goalie, which is doubtful, I’m not sure there is anything he can do to fix the “goal prevention “ problem that characterizes this year’s team.
- Dr Blob

(frank) goal prevention. Pens should be going all in on offense, not worrying about playing defense. The depth scoring is the biggest problem, not the goal prevention. The only time the goal prevention is a problem is when JJ is on the ice and that isn't changing, so better go find some forwards.

It’s not bad or it’s not bad yet?
- Feds91Stammer

It will be bad when it doesn't matter. Years 4 and 5.

Don’t forget the horny extension
- Feds91Stammer

Dude, I was on the fence about that one. I didn’t like the extension because I wanted to use that cap space elsewhere (Kane or Skinner) but he’s still an asset at this point. He still has trade value

I think Sullivan puts the new guy in and sits Maatta tomorrow night to see what they have

Reaves was bad. Niemi.....bad obviously, but not a big deal. Nisky walked under Shero's tenure. Trading Sheary and his two playoff goals in his last 34 playoff games was partially to rid himself of Hunwick. It would have been a good move if he didn't puke on himself and spend the savings on JJ. Nobody thought the Brassard trade was bad at the time. We needed a center and those other guys aren't centers.

I'd say the worst is spending the savings from Sheary and Hunwick on a 5 year contract for JJ. Followed by the 1st and Sundqvist for Reaves and their 2nd.

His last two off-seasons have been tragic. Cullen, Grant, JJ, Hunwick, Niemi.....ugh.

Just don't forget the good because there's been plenty of that too.
- madmike71

I think “nobody” is too firm of a term. I would say LOTS of fans and analysts alike felt the need last deadline was on defense. We dealt from a point of weakness and got weaker and it showed in the playoffs. Sheahan had like 11 points in his last 16 games leading up to the Brassard trade. We were rolling on all cylinders. Cole also had something like 10 points over his last 17 or something. People are quick to say that Sullivan didn’t like Cole, well he was certainly playing him a fair bit at that point and he was sorely missed in the playoffs

I think Sullivan puts the new guy in and sits Maatta tomorrow night to see what they have
- 123Kid

I don’t like this idea. I don’t want Maatta to sit, that’s not going to help his perceived value at all. I think he needs to be sheltered big time ahead of a trade even if that means playing 58/8 more or even playing JJ more

The thing to me is that DP has numbers very similar to JJ. And he only costs 1.1m. Had they kept DP and understood and accepted he wasn't going to put up 25+ points as a Dman, they could have slotted him as their 3rd pairing defenseman for 1.1m (or less maybe?) and they wouldn't have the need for JJ in the first place and you've got a player of similar caliber for 2.15m less without the awful term and you can use that 2.15 extra to go after better forwards or hell a better RHD.
- j.boyd919

I would prefer to have neither on the team. I've seen enough of DP to know to spend those dollars on another player.

GMJR is a horrible GM. Bots propped him up. Once he ran off to Buff, we are seeing Ruth going back to the terrible kinds of trades that put Carolina in the crapper.

I think Sullivan puts the new guy in and sits Maatta tomorrow night to see what they have
- 123Kid

Like he did with Sprong?

@the GMJR going down in blaze of glory comment above.

He just signed a three year deal. He’s not going anywhere any time soon.