Peter Tessier: Myers, Morrissey, Vesalainen & Ice Time Jets win 3-1 over Capitals but again, lots to talk about after the game.

This Myers criticism is getting exhausting.

No one talks about Bryan Little and how he can’t play with any of the wingers on this roster. Bryan Little’s moniker should be the place wingers go to watch their production die.

This Myers criticism is getting exhausting.

No one talks about Bryan Little and how he can’t play with any of the wingers on this roster. Bryan Little’s moniker should be the place wingers go to watch their production die.
- TheUltimateJet

When i’ve got a time line of people freaking out about Little and he makes the same kind of bizarre plays that makes people record and tweet them he will get the same criticism.

Bryan little does not cause as many grade A chances against us as Myers does almost on a shiftly (not sure if that’s a word) basis.

Peter, Maurice takes a lot of criticism on here and twitter for lack of ice time to certain players and I get that. But we are winning, and we won last year with Hendricks. As much as i to would like Petan, Roslovic and Perreault’s 5v5 ice time to increase I have to recognize we are a winning team.
Can you find the average ice time for every 4th line in the NHL to see if this is a Maurice thing or a league wide thing?

Glad to hear Myers is still being Myers.


Hoping for a good game tonight!

Ross77 that was a good comment about other teams 4th line time. The Jets need to have a 4th line that gets 10 min in order not to over work their top line. Littles line, what ever it is, does nothing as of late. Laine looks lost without regular line mates. They need to improve their 5 on 5 production with Maurices fanaticism to defense the players don't take chances in the offensive zone. Other than running the cycle down low which doesn't lead to many good scoring chances they rarely carry the puck into the offensive zone.

Another game where Laine looked like a pylon except for one shift...

I thought perhaps he found his mojo in Finland but all opposing teams have to do is put pressure on the kid when he has the puck and he coughs it up.

Meyers took away the option to pass to Backstrom, probably the most dangerous forward on the rush. Little let up on the backcheck, Buff failed to take away the pass across.

Taking away Backstrom is never a wrong play.

The Jets are flying high while chicken little cowers. Has there ever been a Jets team/coach/manager that would please this group calling themselves Jet fans?

Is there a team anywhere in professional sport that would make them happy?

Griping about the team is a staple of the 2nd tier reporters trying to differentiate themselves. Eventually every one of them will be vindicated on one gripe or another but it sure diminishes the credibility of other daily commentary they provide.

Meyers is a very good #4 d in the NHL. His contract is reasonable, he competes and commits every shift. When he gets in trouble he uses his size and reach to bail himself out. He is still has the physical tools and skills and at only 28yrs is likely still improving his defensive play.

It's been said on this board before that Meyers would be a great trade deadline acquisition for a team somewhere... so why does it make sense to try and run a player like him out of town when the Jets are in their window?

Peter, Maurice takes a lot of criticism on here and twitter for lack of ice time to certain players and I get that. But we are winning, and we won last year with Hendricks. As much as i to would like Petan, Roslovic and Perreault’s 5v5 ice time to increase I have to recognize we are a winning team.
Can you find the average ice time for every 4th line in the NHL to see if this is a Maurice thing or a league wide thing?
- Ross77

There used to be a way to do that but it's really time consuming. I could look back at last year for Jets. My thinking on this is he does not entirely trust Petan a bit more trust with Roslovic and lots with Perreault. So he uses Perreault there and then on Special teams but not enough. So...

I think it could be balanced a bit better but last game being a 1 goal game its gonna be the top guys more than others. Let's see if that changes in there situations.

Meyers took away the option to pass to Backstrom, probably the most dangerous forward on the rush. Little let up on the backcheck, Buff failed to take away the pass across.

Taking away Backstrom is never a wrong play.

The Jets are flying high while chicken little cowers. Has there ever been a Jets team/coach/manager that would please this group calling themselves Jet fans?

Is there a team anywhere in professional sport that would make them happy?

Griping about the team is a staple of the 2nd tier reporters trying to differentiate themselves. Eventually every one of them will be vindicated on one gripe or another but it sure diminishes the credibility of other daily commentary they provide.

Meyers is a very good #4 d in the NHL. His contract is reasonable, he competes and commits every shift. When he gets in trouble he uses his size and reach to bail himself out. He is still has the physical tools and skills and at only 28yrs is likely still improving his defensive play.

It's been said on this board before that Meyers would be a great trade deadline acquisition for a team somewhere... so why does it make sense to try and run a player like him out of town when the Jets are in their window?
- 2.0

*Myers

Myers is a problem, rather his play is a problem and it consistently shows. He's not making up much offensively to make his defensive woes forgivable. Now Laine will have his day o reckoning here but the difference is he's 20 and in his third year- Myers is a vet and should know better.

That being said we come to a crux point in the discussion-

Is griping and criticizing Maurice fair or should it be more in individual players- think the old second line with Ehlers, Little and Laine? Notice that Connor, while playing well is also slowing in scoring with Little?

There is a problem and while it might lie with Bryan Little as a fulcrum on any line he's with it might also be that 55 and 26 are so bloody good they could make Tanev elite on the wing too.

Let me throw this out there....

Petan Scheifele Wheeler
Perreault Little Ehlers
Tanev, Lowry Copp
Ehlers, Roslovic Laine

Forget the hierarchy of the lines but would that even work?

Meyers took away the option to pass to Backstrom, probably the most dangerous forward on the rush. Little let up on the backcheck, Buff failed to take away the pass across.

Taking away Backstrom is never a wrong play.

The Jets are flying high while chicken little cowers. Has there ever been a Jets team/coach/manager that would please this group calling themselves Jet fans?

Is there a team anywhere in professional sport that would make them happy?

Griping about the team is a staple of the 2nd tier reporters trying to differentiate themselves. Eventually every one of them will be vindicated on one gripe or another but it sure diminishes the credibility of other daily commentary they provide.

Meyers is a very good #4 d in the NHL. His contract is reasonable, he competes and commits every shift. When he gets in trouble he uses his size and reach to bail himself out. He is still has the physical tools and skills and at only 28yrs is likely still improving his defensive play.

It's been said on this board before that Meyers would be a great trade deadline acquisition for a team somewhere... so why does it make sense to try and run a player like him out of town when the Jets are in their window?
- 2.0

look everyone is entitled to their opinion, you like myers, others don't. it doesn't make the ones who don't worse fans. I also think anyone who said myers would be a great trade deadline move for a team was either a myers fan or said it in the hope we get to play against him.

the myers debate will never go away, accept it or ignore it but expecting it to change wont happen

There used to be a way to do that but it's really time consuming. I could look back at last year for Jets. My thinking on this is he does not entirely trust Petan a bit more trust with Roslovic and lots with Perreault. So he uses Perreault there and then on Special teams but not enough. So...

I think it could be balanced a bit better but last game being a 1 goal game its gonna be the top guys more than others. Let's see if that changes in there situations.
- Peter.Tessier

see and I just think its a league wide thing where every teams 4th line sees 5-10 min per game and there just isn't enough ice time to go around.

i'm sure if we got our 4th line more ice time by reducing the others, Maurice would also being hearing from shief, Wheels and others about it.

*Myers

Myers is a problem, rather his play is a problem and it consistently shows. He's not making up much offensively to make his defensive woes forgivable. Now Laine will have his day o reckoning here but the difference is he's 20 and in his third year- Myers is a vet and should know better.

That being said we come to a crux point in the discussion-

Is griping and criticizing Maurice fair or should it be more in individual players- think the old second line with Ehlers, Little and Laine? Notice that Connor, while playing well is also slowing in scoring with Little?

There is a problem and while it might lie with Bryan Little as a fulcrum on any line he's with it might also be that 55 and 26 are so bloody good they could make Tanev elite on the wing too.

Let me throw this out there....

Petan Scheifele Wheeler
Perreault Little Ehlers
Tanev, Lowry Copp
Ehlers, Roslovic Laine

Forget the hierarchy of the lines but would that even work?
- Peter.Tessier

Is Connor in the press box?

When i’ve got a time line of people freaking out about Little and he makes the same kind of bizarre plays that makes people record and tweet them he will get the same criticism.
- Peter.Tessier

So, let me get this straight. You get your material from Twitter?

Where is the analytics and strong analysis that one would expect from a "hockey reporter". This whole blog is just a glorified tweet.

Bryan little does not cause as many grade A chances against us as Myers does almost on a shiftly (not sure if that’s a word) basis.
- Ross77

Bryan Little is supposed to create offense. He doesn't create any offense and is on pace for 28 points. I also hear that Little is a great defensive forward and if that is the case, how come he is not on the penalty kill?

Bryan Little is supposed to create offense. He doesn't create any offense and is on pace for 28 points. I also hear that Little is a great defensive forward and if that is the case, how come he is not on the penalty kill?
- TheUltimateJet

the job is to create more goals than you cause, that's the job and little does it better than myers by miles and miles

Forgot I had an INBOX. Thanks for the good wishes everyone. Charliedog also.

Cheers !

the job is to create more goals than you cause, that's the job and little does it better than myers by miles and miles
- Ross77

Well he's not doing much on either end. All I know is that when Little is on the ice, nothing is going to happen, so I normally go for a bathroom break at home or go for a beer break at the rink. It must be nice to get paid 5 million plus per season to go out for leisurely skates.

Glad to hear Myers is still being Myers.


Hoping for a good game tonight!
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

I'd still rather have Myers on the Sabres than Bogo


I think...

thought i'd wander over to the Sabres thread to see what they had to say, had to leave after reading one page though...."jets are dirty", " league needs to protect our stars", "we outplayed them from 2nd period on", "too many missed calls on the Jets" WOW!!!!!!

Peter, is there a way I can do some type of educational webinar for Sabre fans? like a "introduction to hockey" or "if you are such a suck, watch ping pong instead" or "basic understanding of hockey" or "your team has missed calls as well"

-for the record, I'm singling out some out of touch fans that are better suited for badminton, not the entire fan base as a whole

overall, congrats to the Sabres, they hung in there when getting outplayed, Hutton was fantastic, I liked the Dahlin kid, Reinhardt looked improved, Eichel is a star, the team is on the rise, not there yet, but going in right direction now.

I’m just gonna throw out some lines, and now know I have to point out that I will ALWAYS set them up to roll with even ice time:

Connor-Scheifele-Roslovic
Sniper, puck hound, and the Jets juggernaut stealing defensive attention

Perreault-Little-Ehlers
It works, it should never have changed, and it made Little whole again

Petan-Lowry-Laine
Petan can pass, Laine can shoot, Lowry can retrieve pucks. Lowry is a defensive god, too.

Vesalainen-Copp-Wheeler
Wheeler and Copp have worked historically. Vesalainen is Laine-lite. Wheeler will slaughter 3rd pairings of Scheif and Laine draw the top 4 to them

This Myers criticism is getting exhausting.

No one talks about Bryan Little and how he can’t play with any of the wingers on this roster. Bryan Little’s moniker should be the place wingers go to watch their production die.
- TheUltimateJet

Little has been excellent with Perreault or Ehlers (or both), no matter the circumstances.
He can’t drive the play anymore, so he needs help. If he has a play driver, he’s just fine.

Myers, however, has been the definition of a carried player for 2 seasons now

In my younger years a 9pm puck drop woulda been the best to gather the guys and open some beers

Now it's a challenge just to stay awake

This 4 game road trip another great test to see where we're at

In my younger years a 9pm puck drop woulda been the best to gather the guys and open some beers

Now it's a challenge just to stay awake

This 4 game road trip another great test to see where we're at
- CorydonKeith

The last rec league I was in had a 10pm start time on Monday nights, we usually played until about 12 or 12:30. Between fatigue, being out of shape and not healing up as quick as I used to I was shot until around Wednesday every week. Had to quit, fun while it lasted.