I'm pretty sure 'half the team' already hates his guts. He's too good looking, too popular, too soft - and now this. There's no way most of those guys are gonna protect him on the ice next time = he gotta go!
- 21peter

Meh, he will be bald within a decade.

Pietrangelo is playing 25 minutes a night and St Louis has no D depth, I find it amusing you think they’d trade him.
- Blazed

He's also going to be UFA after next season and there's no guarantee that he re-signs. Parayko steps in as the #1 RHD if Alex ends up getting traded and/or leaves via free agency. Doesn't seem so ridiculous to entertain trading him...

Having said that, the only guy I'd want as a return for Nylander off St. Louis would be Parayko. Which ain't happening...

If the Leafs took Konecny instead of Dermott, Leaf fans would be drumming up Trade packages like Konecny, Bracco and a 2nd for Dermott because the Leafs need D
- senstroll

False. Konecny would be worth more and could get a defender better than Dermott.

He could also help replace Nylander when he gets traded for a really good defender.

False.

The more money Nylander gets, the less money Matthews and Marner gets. Remember, SALARY CAP!!
- Cooshie

False. Matthews and Marner still get pay days. The Browns of the world get traded to clear the overpayment money.

primarily his hair
- 21peter

Ok. That makes sense then.

I’ll bet any amount that Parayako is not available for Nylander. Their D is paper thin without him.
- Blazed

Listen, if he isn't available, that's fine. But the Leafs are not going to move Nylander for .50cents on the dollar because there are no D men with similar value available.
I will not be upset if Dec 1st passes and Nylander is still a leaf.

Using the Stastny logic, wouldn't St.Louis be better served to get draft picks? You know like they did with Stastny?
- PatC80

If they could have got a young impact player, they would have. Pietrangelo, being more valuable, can get a young impact player as well as draft picks. And for the Leafs, they'd be fine trading both if it means getting what they need.

False. Matthews and Marner still get pay days. The Browns of the world get traded to clear the overpayment money.
- Unholy_Goalie

Brown is only at what $2M. I think it's more the Kadri's and Rielly's of the world.

Maybe not Ritchie, but what about Manson and Silfverberg?
- PatC80

It's definitely a better offer...
I hate 2 for one deals though...when moving a talent like Nylander, you want to get similar talent back, not cut in to 2 players.

False.

The more money Nylander gets, the less money Matthews and Marner gets. Remember, SALARY CAP!!
- Cooshie

Tavares wont sign with the leafs, so just nod and smile.

Brown is only at what $2M. I think it's more the Kadri's and Rielly's of the world.
- PatC80

Nah. The Leafs have the space to keep Matthews and Marner at 10 and 8. If they want 11 and 9, it's Brown that goes. If Matthews gets 14 and Marner gets 10, then it goes into Kadri territory.

How is it that he hasn't signed a 1 or two year deal yet.
- HealthyScratch6

Uhm

Well

From my experiences I tend to avoid the worst case scenario unless I absolutely have to.

With three weeks left I doubt Dubas and Nylander just say (frank) it let’s take the worst case scenario instead of using our time wisely.

If they could have got a young impact player, they would have. Pietrangelo, being more valuable, can get a young impact player as well as draft picks. And for the Leafs, they'd be fine trading both if it means getting what they need.
- Unholy_Goalie

Maybe, but from a Leafs fan perspective, Nylander plus draft picks is a really, really high price to pay for 1 year of Pietrangelo

He also only has 1 year left on his deal after this one. And they suck. They sold Stastny at the deadline, they might do the same this year if they decide they want to get younger and rebuild.
- Unholy_Goalie

If they trade Pietrangelo they may as well blow it up.

Tavares wont sign with the leafs, so just nod and smile.
- Garnie

Was that what he said prior to Tavares signing with the Leafs?

Nah. The Leafs have the space to keep Matthews and Marner at 10 and 8. If they want 11 and 9, it's Brown that goes. If Matthews gets 14 and Marner gets 10, then it goes into Kadri territory.
- Unholy_Goalie

Tavares at 11
Matthews maybe at 11
Marner maybe at 9
Nylander at what 7 or 8?
Its almost already into the Kadri territory

Was that what he said prior to Tavares signing with the Leafs?

- Cooshie

Maybe, but from a Leafs fan perspective, Nylander plus draft picks is a really, really high price to pay for 1 year of Pietrangelo
- PatC80

Would have to come with him extending.....and also depend on the $$ value of that contract.

It's definitely a better offer...
I hate 2 for one deals though...when moving a talent like Nylander, you want to get similar talent back, not cut in to 2 players.
- Cooshie

The issue with that is a defenceman that has equal value to Nylander would cost us more than just Nylander

That’s likely, a year sat will be an embarrassment all around.

If I signs a bridge though I hope Dubas turns around and trades him before Christmas.

If he signs a bridge deal at this point I’ll bet dollars to donuts he’s booed on his return.
- Blazed

It’s hard when we don’t actually know the numbers.

If he signs 6x6.50 would everyone be content? I think so. His cap hit for years 2+ would be at about 6.15-6.25 due to signing 50 days into the season.

I think that’s a cap hit the leafs can handle and money Nylander can be happy about.

BUT. We don’t know where the numbers are. Nylander could be firm at 8 mil or Dubas could be at 6 and Nylander being fine with 6.50.

It’s hard when we are fans...we just don’t know.

Listen, if he isn't available, that's fine. But the Leafs are not going to move Nylander for .50cents on the dollar because there are no D men with similar value available.
I will not be upset if Dec 1st passes and Nylander is still a leaf.
- Cooshie

That may be the case because no one seems interested in moving top pairing D right now.

- Garnie

LOL - I guess he was no different than 99% of all the Leaf haters out there.

I wrote similar to this note yesterday that all the focus on a D man if nylander is traded is kinda off the mark. We NEED winger(s) that CAN score
Matthews needs a partner to give him a line
2) marleau will be 40 next year
3) you expect Kadri to play with brown and Johnson and tally goals??

If nylander is dealt you have void. Kapanen is fast but is he the permanent solution for Matthews? We need 2 complete lines and when I say winger(s) can they handle the physicality of bruins Bergeron Marchand and Pasternak and can they handle bruins giant on defenders?

I’m saying trade a kapanen to get a Manson or pesce(May have to add) and trade nylander for something that can score

You really think we can get into first round playoffs up agai st Wilson and nasty ovechkin and more of the like.

I kind of like pesce and m Ferland but don’t stop there get us an upgrade bottom 6

The issue with that is a defenceman that has equal value to Nylander would cost us more than just Nylander
- PatC80

I read a good article today.

A Werenski for Nylander type trade is a win...you get a equally good player at a good age. Hamilton for Nylander is a short term win long term loss.

The thing is that it’s unlikely any team can afford to lose a 22 year old elite D.

The issue with that is a defenceman that has equal value to Nylander would cost us more than just Nylander
- PatC80

I would rather pay more than Nylander than settle for less...
Nylanders age also has a lot to do with not wanting to move him for 2 players of less value.