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Mike Augello
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Nov 13 @ 4:08 PM ET
Mike Augello: Moore recalled, more Nylander chatter; Leafs vs. Kings
aries1976
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Frustration that unites us all. , AB
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 13 @ 4:18 PM ET
Hope they don't trade him. But that seems to be the growing consensus now.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 13 @ 4:20 PM ET
I really hope Montour isn't the big return. Is it just me or do DMen in other city get very overrated compared to Toronto?
Sorry, if Montour is the return you sit on Nylander till the draft.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Nov 13 @ 4:22 PM ET
Nylander is not going to be traded for a #4 dman.

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 13 @ 4:23 PM ET
Nylander is not going to be traded for a #4 dman.
- Cooshie


I can't see them getting what they want rushing a move. I am still calling him being resigned or trade him in June.

Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Nov 13 @ 4:33 PM ET
I can't see them getting what they want rushing a move. I am still calling him being resigned or trade him in June.
- RogerRoeper


Here is the bottom line..

He isn't the on ice difference between a cup or not this year.
The return being talked about is not the difference between a cup or not this year.

So...let him sit until the right offer comes in or he signs at the right price.
He has zero leverage in this situation.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 13 @ 4:36 PM ET
@ Cooshie, the preseason talk was this team was a contender, you have three elite players on ELC's, this would be the time to try and win a cup.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Nov 13 @ 4:42 PM ET
@ Cooshie, the preseason talk was this team was a contender, you have three elite players on ELC's, this would be the time to try and win a cup.
- ClaudeFather


Not at the expense of futures, this is hardly a window closing situation.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 13 @ 4:43 PM ET
@ Cooshie, the preseason talk was this team was a contender, you have three elite players on ELC's, this would be the time to try and win a cup.
- ClaudeFather

Who is the third?

Kapanen?
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Nov 13 @ 4:43 PM ET
@ Cooshie, the preseason talk was this team was a contender, you have three elite players on ELC's, this would be the time to try and win a cup.
- ClaudeFather


Their needs are not up front, they are on Defense.
Not one of the players being talked about is going to elevate them enough that they would improve significantly enough to warrant moving a talent like Nylander.

If a trade offer materializes for a top pairing D guy, than I could see a trade happening.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Nov 13 @ 4:44 PM ET
Montour would just be a start for Willy - Leafs need a decent backup and RM is more than that signed to a very friendly mil a yr, however I don't know is he has a no movement. So BM and RM and pick and prospect for Willy and a 3rd.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Nov 13 @ 4:45 PM ET
I really hope Montour isn't the big return. Is it just me or do DMen in other city get very overrated compared to Toronto?
Sorry, if Montour is the return you sit on Nylander till the draft.

- RogerRoeper



Throw in Ritchie and Leafs throw in some meh Dman like Rosen and ya got a deal.


The situation the way it is will not resolve with a top 20 defensemen. Pietrangelo/Doughty is just not going to happen.


Montour might be a little underpayment but he would look fantastic next to Rielly.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Nov 13 @ 4:46 PM ET
Who is the third?

Kapanen?

- Atomic Wedgie


Dermott.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Nov 13 @ 4:46 PM ET
Montour would just be a start for Willy - Leafs need a decent backup and RM is more than that signed to a very friendly mil a yr, however I don't know is he has a no movement. So BM and RM and pick and prospect for Willy and a 3rd.
- dozerD10


so quality for quantity? No thanks.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Nov 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
Throw in Ritchie and Leafs throw in some meh Dman like Rosen and ya got a deal.


The situation the way it is will not resolve with a top 20 defensemen. Pietrangelo/Doughty is just not going to happen.


Montour might be a little underpayment but he would look fantastic next to Rielly.

- Blazed


Would consider Kap for montour, not Nylander.
Top 20 dman, might take Nylander plus another piece - doesn't need to be Nylander alone.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Nov 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
Montour would just be a start for Willy - Leafs need a decent backup and RM is more than that signed to a very friendly mil a yr, however I don't know is he has a no movement. So BM and RM and pick and prospect for Willy and a 3rd.
- dozerD10


Give us the big dumb face puncher who Grapes wanted over Will Ny.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
Dermott.
- Blazed

So glad we traded down to get him.

I mean, we could have had Konecny - but Dermott and Bracco are the complete package!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
Who is the third?

Kapanen?

- Atomic Wedgie

haha i was counting Willie , still this is not a throw away year as suggested by the comment above.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Nov 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
Would consider Kap for montour, not Nylander.
Top 20 dman, might take Nylander plus another piece - doesn't need to be Nylander alone.

- Cooshie


Nylander plus would do it in theory from a value stand point yes, but in reality it won't happen.

Doughty for example isn't going anywhere unless it's a full blown rebuild. Nylander, Liljegren and a 1st and they probably still say 'hey nice offer, but no thank you'
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Nov 13 @ 4:51 PM ET
So glad we traded down to get him.

I mean, we could have had Konecny - but Dermott and Bracco are the complete package!

- Atomic Wedgie


Bracco has great edge work.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 13 @ 4:52 PM ET
Bracco has great edge work.
- Blazed

Great - he can get a job as a house painter when we drop him from the Marlies in two years.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Nov 13 @ 4:55 PM ET
haha i was counting Willie , still this is not a throw away year as suggested by the comment above.
- ClaudeFather


Throw away year??!!
If you are referring to me, I didn't mean that at all.

I just meant that the players being talked about are not enough to give that huge boost the Leafs would need to trade him away.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Nov 13 @ 4:58 PM ET
Nylander plus would do it in theory from a value stand point yes, but in reality it won't happen.

Doughty for example isn't going anywhere unless it's a full blown rebuild. Nylander, Liljegren and a 1st and they probably still say 'hey nice offer, but no thank you'

- Blazed


You mean Kapanen plus - I think.

But yeah, you are right about Doughty. It would take a huge offer.
But maybe someone like a Colton Parayko would be more realistic for a Nylander package.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Nov 13 @ 4:59 PM ET
So glad we traded down to get him.

I mean, we could have had Konecny - but Dermott and Bracco are the complete package!

- Atomic Wedgie



LOL!!!
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Nov 13 @ 5:00 PM ET
You mean Kapanen plus - I think.

But yeah, you are right about Doughty. It would take a huge offer.
But maybe someone like a Colton Parayko would be more realistic for a Nylander package.

- Cooshie


No I mean Nylander plus for a top 20 defenseman. They could add plus to Nylander but if a team doesn't want to trade their elite guys then they don't a strong offer doesn't necessarily change that.
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