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glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Nov 8 @ 12:21 PM ET
Eklund: Are the Penguins in Trouble? Rutherford Never Passive...
- Eklund


Kessell has never really been a defensive player. This is not new.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Nov 8 @ 12:27 PM ET
Kessell has never really been a defensive player. This is not new.
- glove_was_stuck

This. He’s like a more consistent Vanek.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 8 @ 12:30 PM ET
quotes not working.

I think the teams the ones poster mentioned (LA & CAR in particular) do make sense. I just don't think Phil is traded. I mentioned this on the Pens board but I could see Hornqvist, Hagelin, Maatta, Sprong on the table for a shake-up.

Potentially Brassard too but the optics would look too bad if we trade him for much less than what we gave away. I'd hope we just ride out Brassard this year and have the un-matchable depth down the middle.

Gauging what PIT needs is a little difficult. Technically we need a RHD but will be fine once Shultz comes back. PIT, in my opinion, would be looking for middle-six LW and/or middle pair D-man, with emphasis on speed/skill/youth.

Leafcup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Aurora, ON
Joined: 06.16.2016

Nov 8 @ 12:30 PM ET
Kessel back to Toronto for Nylander.

Pens retain 50% of the Thrill's salary.

???? nylander is going to get paid more than kessel is now so that aint happening.....

- nyislsbossy


No thanks...enjoyed Phil when he was here for the most part BUT not interested in a second stint...we have enough defensive issues so at times so no need for Phil to come around again and make it worse
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Nov 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
This. He’s like a more consistent Vanek.
- RafiDRW


Its not a role he succeeds in. Boston and Toronto tried to shoe-horn that part into his game. Didn't work out for either.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Nov 8 @ 12:36 PM ET
Kessel back to Toronto for Nylander.

Pens retain 50% of the Thrill's salary.


Beat me to it.
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Nov 8 @ 12:55 PM ET
Toronto trades Steve Simmons for 1 of Phils leftover hotdogs
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 8 @ 12:59 PM ET
Toronto trades Steve Simmons for 1 of Phils leftover hotdogs
- PinkSock

There's no such thing as leftover hot dogs when Phil is involved.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Nov 8 @ 1:00 PM ET
Its not a role he succeeds in. Boston and Toronto tried to shoe-horn that part into his game. Didn't work out for either.
- glove_was_stuck

100%. Hes perfect for Pittsburgh. One of the best wingers in the game who can pot in 25 goals minimum a year.
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 8 @ 1:05 PM ET

Better trade him for 2 firsts and a 2nd
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Nov 8 @ 1:07 PM ET
No.
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Nov 8 @ 1:14 PM ET
There's no such thing as leftover hot dogs when Phil is involved.
- Atomic Wedgie

glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Nov 8 @ 1:16 PM ET
100%. Hes perfect for Pittsburgh. One of the best wingers in the game who can pot in 25 goals minimum a year.
- RafiDRW


Not every guy plays a 200 foot game. YOU HEAR THAT CLAUDE!!!?
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Nov 8 @ 1:16 PM ET
buffalo: Filthy Kessel

Pitt: Scadella, Girgensons, Bailey and san jose 1st

Buffalo improves top six and Pittsburgh gets depth to 6 dman and 1 st round pick.

- BigDog912



Tragically Buffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo of the South, NC
Joined: 10.05.2018

Nov 8 @ 1:30 PM ET

- Matthews_Auston

You can laugh, how is that Jack Johnson thing working out.

This is actually a reasonable trade proposal. I wouldn't do it as a Sabre fan but sound in logic for both teams.
NewfieStud
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 8 @ 1:31 PM ET
Still hung up on the pre Mathews days. All Kessel did since arriving in Pitt
Lead the team in scoring for the playoffs - Cup win and should have won the Conn Smythe
Second in playoff scoring and another cup
second in regular season and career high in pts

You don't get him for his 200 foot game. If you think that, you are dreaming. You get him to net pts and score goals.

Time was not right in Toronto - not going to happen but I would bet if Kessel came back to Toronto now, people will easily forget Willy whats his name.

- Revised12


You're gone a little too deep for me there bud. I'm just crackin a joke. I don't hate Phil...never did. Phil is a cool cat!
CupOnBroadSt.
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.23.2012

Nov 8 @ 1:37 PM ET
Lehtera, and a 2nd for Fat Phil and a dozen Tim Horton's doughnuts.
Mahoney87
Joined: 02.28.2012

Nov 8 @ 1:57 PM ET
Hahaha wtf? he specifically mentioned Kessel as one of the players who compete nightly. Click bait is click bait
GloveHandStrong
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Kenowhere, WI
Joined: 07.02.2014

Nov 8 @ 2:02 PM ET
Maybe a coaching change is in order...... I think a certain Mustachioed Man is available....
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Nov 8 @ 2:17 PM ET
Not every guy plays a 200 foot game. YOU HEAR THAT CLAUDE!!!?
- glove_was_stuck

The turtle.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Nov 8 @ 2:35 PM ET
Since the GM on the Pittsburgh side is Rutherford, look for something to come of this. He is one of the finest Hockey traders in the business. He makes moves that you can step back from and see how both sides wanted to make the deal.

I can see Kessel going to either Carolina, LA, Anaheim or San Jose. Why? They have things that the Penguins need. Puck moving defensemen who can take care of the defensive part of the job description...and they have enough of them that they would be willing to make a trade.

In the Kings case, the trade would be a serious horse trade/culture shift....cause I could see Doughty for Kessel plus happening.

I can see Kessel to the Ducks, but not 100% who is coming back.

Phil will add speed and offense to any team he is dealt too...but he will not add much in the way of two way play.

- wbon22

Why does everyone jump straight to Doughty from LA? He isn’t going anywhere especially not for Kessel, kings don’t need him that badly. Although their offense does suck! The Dmen the kings are looking at possibly trading are Muzzin and Martinez. Why in the world would the kings trade a top 3 player in Doughty?
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Nov 8 @ 2:57 PM ET
Kessel back to Toronto for Nylander.

Pens retain 50% of the Thrill's salary.

???? nylander is going to get paid more than kessel is now so that aint happening.....

- nyislsbossy


Yes I realize this. It was meant to be a sarcastic post.........
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Nov 8 @ 2:58 PM ET
No thanks...enjoyed Phil when he was here for the most part BUT not interested in a second stint...we have enough defensive issues so at times so no need for Phil to come around again and make it worse
- Leafcup


See my post above
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 8 @ 3:08 PM ET
Andrew MacDonald for Hagelin and Sheahan
geoff_182
Colorado Avalanche
Location: The Twilight Zone
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 8 @ 3:11 PM ET
Not sure i'd call 20 in 14 "almost 2 points a game". It's closer to 1 than 2.
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