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123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Nov 9 @ 2:35 PM ET
I was talking more about Maatta.
- Thorny87



I see him as sound defensively when on and he is still young and may still have a bit more potential offensively. Overall he is slow, but I see him with a lot of value to other teams (he is still only 24).
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 9 @ 2:36 PM ET
I don't follow prospects so I have no idea. The one name Mackey mentioned was Zykov from Carolina. At least I think that's the name he mentioned.
- madmike71

I was thinking position swap. Zykov wouldn't make sense to me because he is older with a lower ceiling than Sprong. There would need to be more pieces imo.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 9 @ 2:37 PM ET
What do you guys think of either? (Just a brainstorming thought if the rumors of Arizona or LA being in on Sprong)

Pens: Lawson Crouse, Michael Grabner and a draft pick

Coyotes: Sprong and Rust

It would provide a shake up. It provides us with Grabner who has been excelling and has 2 SHG this year. He could add additional speed to our team and Crouse could add a young power forward who has 2 goals this season in front of the net (could learn from Horny to improve his skills).


or

Pens: Muzzin, Pearson (another player and or pick added but unsure would love to add Iafallo into this trade, but I am unsure how realistic it would be).

LA: Hagelin, Maatta, and Sprong

Of course I think there would be more to this trade, but it would be swapping of 4 players that I feel could use a change of scenery (Muzzin, Pearson, Maatta, and Sprong). It would provide us with Pearson who is a solid player who is defensively sound, has good speed, and has a very good shot. Muzzin who is a big top 4 defenseman who previously has shown to be solid. I think either Hagelin or Rust would be added in a trade (I can see one replacing the other especially if we can add some offense at LW). I am unsure of the addition from LA maybe Iafallo due to his speed, talent, and potential (could be possible if Maatta and Sprong are headed the other way).

Otherwise I could see a simple 1 for 1 player swap (even though I feel JR is looking for a bigger shake up to occur).

- 123Kid

Not bad in terms of value but seem like trades that are made just for the sake of making a trade.
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Nov 9 @ 2:44 PM ET
My personal target would be Puljujarvi for Sprong and a pick.

Oilers are known to be looking for a RW with a good shot that can finish to play on there top 2 lines and have also been known to have made quite a few dumb trades...

From the sounds of things in Edmonton he has played not bad but the oilers just keep dropping him. And his value seems to be WAY lower then I think it should be.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Nov 9 @ 2:49 PM ET
My personal target would be Puljujarvi for Sprong and a pick.

Oilers are known to be looking for a RW with a good shot that can finish to play on there top 2 lines and have also been known to have made quite a few dumb trades...

From the sounds of things in Edmonton he has played not bad but the oilers just keep dropping him. And his value seems to be WAY lower then I think it should be.

- pens4life-66

Wouldn't mind this. Puljujarvi is probably a bust, but so is Sprong, and it looks like Sully is done with Sprong, so why not?
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Nov 9 @ 2:53 PM ET
Pat’s is honestly pretty solid, but definitely not the best.

Next time you need to go to Tony Luke’s.

- Rinosaur



Came to suggest tony luke's.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 9 @ 2:55 PM ET
Wouldn't mind this. Puljujarvi is probably a bust, but so is Sprong, and it looks like Sully is done with Sprong, so why not?
- Victoro311

Puljujarvi's most common linemate is Lucic so he hasn't gotten a fair shake.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Nov 9 @ 2:59 PM ET
Today the World Chess Championship begins, Italian-US prodigy Fabiano Caruana challenging the Mozart of chess and year-long reigning champ Norwegian Magnus Carlsen... any chess players here?

(And btw., can it be that our Down Under Uber representation is in the penalty box currently? )

- VeryModernMan


I play, also a member on chess.com. I am not very good. Chess was big at my high school back in the day. That was before cell phones.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 9 @ 3:19 PM ET
Came to suggest tony luke's.
- Blackstrom2


The best
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Nov 9 @ 3:47 PM ET
Came to suggest tony luke's.
- Blackstrom2

There was a Tony Luke's in the Pentagon when I interned there last year. Big fan.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 9 @ 4:22 PM ET
I don't follow prospects so I have no idea. The one name Mackey mentioned was Zykov from Carolina. At least I think that's the name he mentioned.
- madmike71


If Zykov played LW it would make a lot more sense.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 9 @ 4:24 PM ET
If Zykov played LW it would make a lot more sense.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


He can.

He did on a line with Aho and Teravainen to wrap up last season.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 9 @ 4:29 PM ET
Wouldn't mind this. Puljujarvi is probably a bust, but so is Sprong, and it looks like Sully is done with Sprong, so why not?
- Victoro311


Another RW though. (not sure if he can play left). I think a Sprong has to be for a D or LW.

I dont have the warm and fuzzies about a Sprong trade. I'm not saying we will be looking at a Forsberg/Erat situation but highly unlikely the return warrants trading him.

I really hope they dont trade Brassard because Sheahan and Cullen's corpse are not good enough. Nobody is giving a young 3rd line C for Brassard. I doubt there is another Center of equal talent with a different skillset/or in a bad situation.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 9 @ 4:43 PM ET
Puljujarvi's most common linemate is Lucic so he hasn't gotten a fair shake.
- Feds91Stammer


is something workable around AA/Sprong+?
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Nov 9 @ 4:44 PM ET
Another RW though. (not sure if he can play left). I think a Sprong has to be for a D or LW.

I dont have the warm and fuzzies about a Sprong trade. I'm not saying we will be looking at a Forsberg/Erat situation but highly unlikely the return warrants trading him.

I really hope they dont trade Brassard because Sheahan and Cullen's corpse are not good enough. Nobody is giving a young 3rd line C for Brassard. I doubt there is another Center of equal talent with a different skillset/or in a bad situation.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


For what it's worth, Mackey said they are not interested in trading Brassard. They view him as their 3C and will still use him at LW too.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 9 @ 4:47 PM ET
He can.

He did on a line with Aho and Teravainen to wrap up last season.

- BINGO!


How slow is he?
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 9 @ 4:54 PM ET
Not bad in terms of value but seem like trades that are made just for the sake of making a trade.
- Feds91Stammer

Agreed, but with the way Ruth is talking sounds about right haha
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 9 @ 4:56 PM ET
For what it's worth, Mackey said they are not interested in trading Brassard. They view him as their 3C and will still use him at LW too.
- madmike71

Good the guy just needs to get healthy. He should switch his number to 16 he wore with the rangers he's getting Bennett powers lol
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 9 @ 5:06 PM ET
How slow is he?
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Not bad, but probably below average for an NHLer.

He's good down low and around the net, but not of much use over most of the rest of the ice from what I can see.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 9 @ 5:08 PM ET
is something workable around AA/Sprong+?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Yes please. You guys can always have AA.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 9 @ 5:09 PM ET
Not bad, but probably below average for an NHLer.

He's good down low and around the net, but not of much use over most of the rest of the ice from what I can see.

- BINGO!


Meh, so he's basically Pat Maroon. Is there one of your defenseman you'd deal for Sprong or Sprong+?
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 9 @ 5:21 PM ET
Yes please. You guys can always have AA.
- Feds91Stammer


That's a deal I'd do for sure...more components needed to make the money work tho
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Nov 9 @ 5:30 PM ET
Brassard skated today for the first time. I forgot to mention that.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 9 @ 5:31 PM ET
Brassard skated today for the first time. I forgot to mention that.
- madmike71


Well you could have led with that!
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 9 @ 5:38 PM ET
“I think Puljujarvi is getting frustrated. I think the #Oilers are getting frustrated. And I think the situation, quite likely sooner rather than later, may be coming to a head."

^ hmm, the stars are sure aligning (timing wise) on this Sprong / Puljujarvi talk
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