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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Nov 2 @ 11:25 AM ET
Todd Cordell: Red Wings 4, Devils 3: Five observations from another disappointing effort
Thunder_daddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Van isle ferda, BC
Joined: 09.06.2015

Nov 2 @ 11:34 AM ET
I think this is the only devils game I have turned off early. Hopefully it is a one off.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:38 AM ET
I think this is the only devils game I have turned off early. Hopefully it is a one off.
- Thunder_daddy

I did the same.
Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:41 AM ET
Mueller has been about the only pleasant surprise so far this season
devilspep
Joined: 07.12.2009

Nov 2 @ 11:49 AM ET
Butcher has looked off since his injury.
Thunder_daddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Van isle ferda, BC
Joined: 09.06.2015

Nov 2 @ 11:51 AM ET
I did the same.
- willschulme

I was hoping for an easy 2 points 🙄
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM ET
Mueller has been about the only pleasant surprise so far this season
- Senor_Elias


Mueller, Severson, Dea, Coleman, Greene, Kinkaid, Palmieri are guys who have been better than I expected so far (in that order of how surprised I am)

Zacha, Noeson, Butcher, and any rookies (JQ/Anderson) have been a bit disappointing so far.

Everyone else has pretty much been about what I felt like the reasonably would be. Obviously it sucks that Bratt hasn't played at all yet. Mojo's numbers are disappointing but he looks very good out there most nights.
oil90
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ON
Joined: 12.05.2010

Nov 2 @ 12:35 PM ET
As a side note larsson has been a stud on oilers blueline every game so far.



MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 2 @ 12:49 PM ET
As a side note larsson has been a stud on oilers blueline every game so far.
- oil90


Good, we were all big fans of his and are happy to see him do well.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Nov 2 @ 1:23 PM ET
It's all perspective boys. As I stated after the 4 game winning streak to start the season, it is a long season and there will be many ebbs and flows. So need to shake this off and get back to playing our speed game. Keep the faith!
Shampoo
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.20.2018

Nov 2 @ 1:24 PM ET
What others teams with a top 4 dman available struggling out the gate ? St. Louis ? L.A? We could use a shake up.

I would be really interested in seeing if we have the right parts to trade for Nylander but I wouldnt want to give up either of Boqvist or Smith and really they are likely looking for a top four defender right now plus something for him wich isnt something we can cough up.
FAZOOL
New Jersey Devils
Location: Where's Your Ring "King" Nothing?!, NJ
Joined: 04.30.2012

Nov 2 @ 3:16 PM ET
Mueller should never attempt to fight again.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Nov 2 @ 3:35 PM ET
Mueller should never attempt to fight again.
- FAZOOL


Was shocked to hear that those were his first penalty mins all season so far
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Nov 2 @ 3:36 PM ET
Mueller should never attempt to fight again.
- FAZOOL


Its not about winning it, its about standing up for your boys, which no one else did. he got a thumbs up and respect from me.

Also, that was game 10, one more than Ty was allowed. Given all that happened, should he have been given the 9 game try out ?
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Nov 2 @ 4:58 PM ET
Zacha and Rooney sent to Binghamton. Seney and Gabriel called up
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Nov 2 @ 5:51 PM ET
Zacha and Rooney sent to Binghamton. Seney and Gabriel called up
- vlongo4419


Good, he can get his game on track without any pressure.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Nov 2 @ 6:15 PM ET
Zacha and Rooney sent to Binghamton. Seney and Gabriel called up
- vlongo4419


incredible, honestly. I never thought I'd see the day, and I'm not being sarcastic. Hope Zacha does find his game, and I'm serious about a psychologist. I'm no pro scout, or therapist.. (tho I am a social worker with crisis kids/teens lol), but something just seems flat about him. maybe i'm over-analyzing.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Nov 2 @ 7:11 PM ET
incredible, honestly. I never thought I'd see the day, and I'm not being sarcastic. Hope Zacha does find his game, and I'm serious about a psychologist. I'm no pro scout, or therapist.. (tho I am a social worker with crisis kids/teens lol), but something just seems flat about him. maybe i'm over-analyzing.
- MartysBetter88


I think you are. Lots of top talents in sports, entertainment etc have therapists too. Its no big deal and prob a big help sorting stuff out, if he even needs that stuff. I think he needs to play his game enough for it to become second nature. It got lost somewhere before he got to NJ. Maybe he needs a change of scenery as in another team.

I always wondered about nature in hockey. Like if Crosby was drafted by the Isles, Panthers, would he still be Crosby? Maybe scoring 100 pts gave him confidence to excel and if ended with 60 on the cats maybe that would have hampered his best player in world status.
devsnation_12
New Jersey Devils
Location: Suffern, NY
Joined: 10.19.2013

Nov 2 @ 8:39 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Red Wings 4, Devils 3: Five observations from another disappointing effort
- Todd.Cordell


Hey Todd,
Do you have any updates about Devils prospects. I've been hearing Ty Smith has been tearing it up in the W.
Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Nov 2 @ 9:11 PM ET
As a side note larsson has been a stud on oilers blueline every game so far.
- oil90


future norris winner?
K-dizzle
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.28.2011

Nov 2 @ 9:45 PM ET
incredible, honestly. I never thought I'd see the day, and I'm not being sarcastic. Hope Zacha does find his game, and I'm serious about a psychologist. I'm no pro scout, or therapist.. (tho I am a social worker with crisis kids/teens lol), but something just seems flat about him. maybe i'm over-analyzing.
- MartysBetter88


I know it did wonders for Bratt and MA Fleury.

At this point they should just leave him down there till Christmas. I wonder if Patty would have played Zacha’s rookie year how that might have helped his development.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Nov 2 @ 10:46 PM ET
I know it did wonders for Bratt and MA Fleury.

At this point they should just leave him down there till Christmas. I wonder if Patty would have played Zacha’s rookie year how that might have helped his development.

- K-dizzle


I've always wondered that as well, always in the back of my mind with Zacha. That one game with them together they looked so comfortable. maybe just coincidence. But you gotta believe Zacha looked up to Elias, one of the best Czech players of all time. Patty could've played another year too I bet. Injuries, age, family.. and if you feel like you can't compete at the level you're used to.. it makes sense when players retire before we feel like they're done. Feels like a wasted opportunity though.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Nov 2 @ 10:48 PM ET
I think you are. Lots of top talents in sports, entertainment etc have therapists too. Its no big deal and prob a big help sorting stuff out, if he even needs that stuff. I think he needs to play his game enough for it to become second nature. It got lost somewhere before he got to NJ. Maybe he needs a change of scenery as in another team.

I always wondered about nature in hockey. Like if Crosby was drafted by the Isles, Panthers, would he still be Crosby? Maybe scoring 100 pts gave him confidence to excel and if ended with 60 on the cats maybe that would have hampered his best player in world status.

- Leniwm1


unless you think Mario had that much of an effect on how good Crosby was, then yea.. he'd still be Crosby. He joined a pretty terrible Pens team, which is why they drafted him 1st overall. The kid would've scored 100 wherever he was drafted. He is a generational talent.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Nov 3 @ 1:10 AM ET
incredible, honestly. I never thought I'd see the day, and I'm not being sarcastic. Hope Zacha does find his game, and I'm serious about a psychologist. I'm no pro scout, or therapist.. (tho I am a social worker with crisis kids/teens lol), but something just seems flat about him. maybe i'm over-analyzing.
- MartysBetter88

Yeah, you can really tell by how he plays that he needs mental help. Because that isn't (frank)ing stupid at all.
Shampoo
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.20.2018

Nov 3 @ 6:45 AM ET
Its not about winning it, its about standing up for your boys, which no one else did. he got a thumbs up and respect from me.

Also, that was game 10, one more than Ty was allowed. Given all that happened, should he have been given the 9 game try out ?

- Leniwm1

What are you talking about in the second paragraph i am a little confused by it. The 10 game mark is for jr players essentially and Mueller is way past that?...
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