lumlums
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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So because he have a difference of opinion, I'm a misogynist? - Atomic Wedgie
No, it's because you inherently disapproved of the way that she chose to be a fan. It's because you attacked her in a way that you have not done in a way that you had not done for even folks like Garth or Tanner, who are demonstrably poor writers. |
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AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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Just being hypothetical here,
But if in fact the Leafs move Nylander to Carolina for a Dman, which Dman currently on the roster would be the best option to centre a package around? I don't think for a second that a guy like Faulk alone would be enough for Nylander, or any one Dman on the Canes for that matter. That being said, things like age and cap hit are factors. Faulk only has 2 years left on his deal and would want more than the 4.8 he makes now. He'd want a raise after a couple years to the 6-7 range and that might not be as feasible with new deals being handed out. There's also Dougie Hamilton only having 3 years left on his deal at a decent 5.75, and the recently signed De Haan at 4.5 for a full 4 years.
If we were to have a deal with them for a Dman, which one is best? |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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That's why they keep me. I offer duplicitous stupidity. - AdamFrench
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Just being hypothetical here,
But if in fact the Leafs move Nylander to Carolina for a Dman, which Dman currently on the roster would be the best option to centre a package around? I don't think for a second that a guy like Faulk alone would be enough for Nylander, or any one Dman on the Canes for that matter. That being said, things like age and cap hit are factors. Faulk only has 2 years left on his deal and would want more than the 4.8 he makes now. He'd want a raise after a couple years to the 6-7 range and that might not be as feasible with new deals being handed out. There's also Dougie Hamilton only having 3 years left on his deal at a decent 5.75, and the recently signed De Haan at 4.5 for a full 4 years.
If we were to have a deal with them for a Dman, which one is best? - AngryWhiteMale
In terms of need, Pesce would check all the boxes. He's a rightie, he's a solid defensive guy who can skate, and he's tied up long term on a good deal. That said, we'd need back more, obviously. But Pesce would fill our biggest need... |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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He was three of the top five October goalies of all time. - Atomic Wedgie
Luongo, Schneider and Lack were the greatest goalies the world has ever seen. Vancouver had them all. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Just being hypothetical here,
But if in fact the Leafs move Nylander to Carolina for a Dman, which Dman currently on the roster would be the best option to centre a package around? I don't think for a second that a guy like Faulk alone would be enough for Nylander, or any one Dman on the Canes for that matter. That being said, things like age and cap hit are factors. Faulk only has 2 years left on his deal and would want more than the 4.8 he makes now. He'd want a raise after a couple years to the 6-7 range and that might not be as feasible with new deals being handed out. There's also Dougie Hamilton only having 3 years left on his deal at a decent 5.75, and the recently signed De Haan at 4.5 for a full 4 years.
If we were to have a deal with them for a Dman, which one is best? - AngryWhiteMale
If not Dougie Hamilton, then Brett Pesce.. Young and on a good contract.
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Tanner is not a bad writer, he just has really bad ideas and terrible opinions.
- PatC80
He is not a particularly good writer either. |
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AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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In terms of need, Pesce would check all the boxes. He's a rightie, he's a solid defensive guy who can skate, and he's tied up long term on a good deal. That said, we'd need back more, obviously. But Pesce would fill our biggest need... - lumlums
Interdasting...
Don't know a whole lot about him. Definitely need a lot more back in return, but if this offense keeps up like it did tonight and all the other wingers continue to put up solid numbers it's honestly a foregone conclusion Nylander either sits out the year, signs for what Dubas wants or gets moved.
There's absolutely zero reason for Dubas to fold. |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Interdasting...
Don't know a whole lot about him. Definitely need a lot more back in return, but if this offense keeps up like it did tonight and all the other wingers continue to put up solid numbers it's honestly a foregone conclusion Nylander either sits out the year, signs for what Dubas wants or gets moved.
There's absolutely zero reason for Dubas to fold. - AngryWhiteMale
Agreed. It sucks because Nylander and Matthews are dynamite together, but in a hard cap world you have to get folks to put team above self. He's gonna get plenty of money regardless, but if he would take a little less than he wants, that could really contribute to a great team. I don't begrudge him for holding out, but there's still always the "what if?"...
(Personally, regardless of contract, I don't trade Nylander, unless it's for a guy like Jones. Which wouldn't happen.) |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Interdasting...
Don't know a whole lot about him. Definitely need a lot more back in return, but if this offense keeps up like it did tonight and all the other wingers continue to put up solid numbers it's honestly a foregone conclusion Nylander either sits out the year, signs for what Dubas wants or gets moved.
There's absolutely zero reason for Dubas to fold. - AngryWhiteMale
Dude, Pesce would really check off every box.. I've been wanting him for a long time.
6'3, 200lbs, RHD, good skater, doesn't take stupid penalties and good puck mover. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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You realize that you had a choice to not comment, right? You had the opportunity to not criticize her even though you didn't find her blog "illuminating"?
You didn't.
You specifically used your voice to attack her.
Because she was not being a fan/writer in the way that you deemed acceptable.
*That* (double emphasis) is misogyny. She did not meet your preconceived opinion of how to hockey, so you attacked her for it. - lumlums
Having no knowledge of the specific incident...
Did something specifically get said that suggested she had no ability to write *because* she was a woman? That is the only way that it qualifies as misogyny, under the idea of "prejudice".
That may or may not have been the case, I don't know. Unless it was explicit, I think we need to allow some leeway for communciation not being perfect over a written-only medium.
We also have to be careful if we are going to say "my marginalizing or making sexist comments about women is "just joking", but yours post is misogyny." |
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walshyleafsfan
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Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita Joined: 07.14.2011
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Agreed. It sucks because Nylander and Matthews are dynamite together, but in a hard cap world you have to get folks to put team above self. He's gonna get plenty of money regardless, but if he would take a little less than he wants, that could really contribute to a great team. I don't begrudge him for holding out, but there's still always the "what if?"...
(Personally, regardless of contract, I don't trade Nylander, unless it's for a guy like Jones. Which wouldn't happen.) - lumlums
I wouldn't do a Nylander for Pesce, 1 for 1 deal.. Carolina would need to add more.. I do like Zykov, he could be a good replacement for Marleau. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Agreed. It sucks because Nylander and Matthews are dynamite together, but in a hard cap world you have to get folks to put team above self. He's gonna get plenty of money regardless, but if he would take a little less than he wants, that could really contribute to a great team. I don't begrudge him for holding out, but there's still always the "what if?"...
(Personally, regardless of contract, I don't trade Nylander, unless it's for a guy like Jones. Which wouldn't happen.) - lumlums
I have been on the trade Nylander train for a while.
There is one very scary consideration though. What if they can't/don't sign Matthews and he gets offer-sheeted to some enormous amount we can't match. It would be nice to have Nylander in the fold and at least still have a good forward core.
No, I am not saying that IS going to happen, so hold your water.
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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No, it's because you inherently disapproved of the way that she chose to be a fan. It's because you attacked her in a way that you have not done in a way that you had not done for even folks like Garth or Tanner, who are demonstrably poor writers. - lumlums
He is being the big Internet bully. Very cool. |
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TrashPanda
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Location: Your Green Bin, ON Joined: 03.29.2018
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We need to stop arguing about this and get back to the topic on hand - The Leafs kicking the Red Wing's ass.
That being said, I was a lurker for a long time before I created an account and remember what happened/what was said. I think both sides are wrong, I did at the time and I especially do now. Neither side is going to win - because that is impossible, so the best thing to do is drop it.
6 -2 Leafs, Matthews with a hat trick. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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He is being the big Internet bully. Very cool. - bixll
bixy.... I've missed you man.. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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We need to stop arguing about this and get back to the topic on hand - The Leafs kicking the Red Wing's ass.
That being said, I was a lurker for a long time before I created an account and remember what happened/what was said. I think both sides are wrong, I did at the time and I especially do now. Neither side is going to win - because that is impossible, so the best thing to do is drop it.
6 -2 Leafs, Matthews with a hat trick. - TrashPanda
Matthews hat trick.. I like it..
And stay out of my garbage...
Edit: Too sexist? |
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markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 07.27.2010
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Fake news! - .HOHO.
Once they were found out for the fake bleach video, they quickly moved onto creating stories about refugees slaughtering goats in the lobby of a Toronto Radisson |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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bixy.... I've missed you man.. - PatC80
I see things are the exact same around here. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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I wouldn't do a Nylander for Pesce, 1 for 1 deal.. Carolina would need to add more.. I do like Zykov, he could be a good replacement for Marleau. - PatC80
You would have a hard time getting Carolina to go 1-up. Keep in mind
1) Relatively speaking D-men are more valuable than wingers
2) Nylander has not proven much, especially away from Matthews
3) Nylander is a player that is holding out for abut 2 million more than he is worth. Many of us questioned how much we want a guy like Trouba on our team. I am questioning whether we want a guy willing to sit... for an amount not in line with the market.
4) In contrast, Pesce has a good contract
5) Every team in the league knows the Leafs have a real cap problem. Nobody is lining up to make a good "hockey trade". |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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I see things are the exact same around here. - bixll
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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I see things are the exact same around here. - bixll
I really wish you had been around for the 2 months UG was telling us that we should get Erik Karlsson, you missed a lot of fun stuff. |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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I really wish you had been around for the 2 months UG was telling us that we should get Erik Karlsson, you missed a lot of fun stuff. - PatC80
Why bother wasting your breath talking to UG ?
He is like Wedgie, never change their mind anyway. |
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