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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Sep 19 @ 12:15 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Stalemate continues between New Jersey Devils, Miles Wood
Devils314
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.16.2016

Sep 19 @ 12:48 PM ET
Devils I believe have the 2nd most cap space in the league I wish Shero would just get this deal done so Wood can come to camp and be ready to go on October 6th I get that he doesn’t want to give in but if it doesn’t get done by next week when they go overseas it’s not good for the team
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Sep 19 @ 12:49 PM ET
This does not look good for Wood. Kid had one decent year and is already playing hardball when he has zero leverage. I'd ship him out because future contracts I'm sure would be just as hard.

Yes Shero has a ton of $ but throwing it to anyone who asks is not how to be a GM.

If Wood is holding over a few hundred grand, ship him out.

Plenty of kids to take his spot in lineup, he is hurting his career. If I were him Id be more into learning to be better than crying over more $.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Sep 19 @ 1:45 PM ET
The guy has done pretty much nothing in his career that would warrant him to hold out for more money. He's a glorified 3rd liner. Let him hold out all year if he wants. He will not be the difference in the Devils making/not making the playoffs IMO.
New Look Devil's
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.03.2018

Sep 19 @ 1:57 PM ET
Reinhart isn't a 4th line guy & he plays in more critical situations. That is where I believe that the "philisophical differences" Shero is speaking of comes in to play. This is probably the worst yr for Wood to hold out. We have to many guys ready to graduate to the NHL team. The first preseason game showed how ready McLeod, Quenville, Lappin, & Speers are. Seney & Anderson are definitely still in play. Wood has zero leverage & to many guys ready for his spot. The only way the Devil's give in is if the regular season starts badly. If he is still holding out when the season starts & the same offer is still on the table he's missed all of camp & preseason for nothing. He's only hurting himself at this point. I hope he fires his agent after this is all over. This isn't a seasoned veteran missing time this is a young player with a lot of development left. If he starts the yr slowly, never really catches up, or gets injured as hold outs often do how much will that hurt him on his next contract?? His real money is going to be on his next contract so holding out for a little more is just ignorant. Shero & his agent say they aren't far apart.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Sep 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
Holy crap. Can’t believe you guys are busting Woods ass so much. Any contract could be the last one you sign. Players get injuries, concussions, careers end. The team needs this guy and we aren’t talking about a lot of money or term.

Getter dun.
Jersey005
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.19.2018

Sep 19 @ 2:10 PM ET
I agree with most here. I am fan of Wood, but this is hurting him more than it is helping him. His productivity has risen and his play is steadily increasing, but now is not the time to play hard ball. Hopefully they get this done and avoiding further damage.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Sep 19 @ 2:32 PM ET
I blame Tom Wilson.
CardiffGiant
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 04.05.2018

Sep 19 @ 3:28 PM ET
Miles Wood for Adam Larsson and some additional players in the exchange.

Woods can skate with McDavid.
Shampoo
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.20.2018

Sep 19 @ 4:37 PM ET
How can someone say that he is practically holding out for a petty amount and then go on to say Ray cant go throwing money around, as if it implied a lot or more then the player deserved.

I hope Wood signs soon but im by no means upset with him that he hasnt yet. Also this is all assumptionsl. None of us are in the meetings to know who is willing to be reasonable and who is not...
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Sep 19 @ 6:04 PM ET
Bad advice from Wood's agent here. Also, when he does hopefully sign this memort will be bad for future negotiations. But I put all of that on Wood's agent. Sad.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Sep 19 @ 6:32 PM ET
everything will be ok..
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Sep 19 @ 6:40 PM ET
Mark Stone wants out from Ottawa, considering EK hauled in a bag of pucks, maybe Shero can get Stone for similar?
New Look Devil's
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.03.2018

Sep 19 @ 7:33 PM ET
Finally someone with some sense. Your so right that just because we have $ doesn't mean we just give it to him to make him happy.

1 good yr and holding out. I definitely agree that is the sign of a future issue. I hope it's more his agent than him. Maybe when he finally signs the same deal that's been on the table for weeks he'll use Hynes's biggest thing. Accountability. His agent says this would get him more $ and it didn't. Both Shero & Wood's agent said they aren't far apart. What if someone has a camp & a start to the season like Bratt did in his spot? I certainly wouldn't take a chance with how many guys we have ready to move up take a shot at my job w out me there. If it takes an injury for him to break into the lineup, it winds up being his off wing, & his performance declines because of it how much does that cost him on his next contract? Hold outs are much more prone to injuries. If he gets hurt & misses significant time how much will it cost him for his next contract? He's not a seasoned veteran he's a newly turned 23yr old that has a ton more developing to do. Missing camp & preseason games will be how costly to his development??

I can't see the Devil's giving out all fair to generous contracts to everyone except him. So if they aren't far apart on terms with no leverage why would you keep pushing?? It's like I got my brownie. I got whip cream. No chocolate sauce & no cherry so it's not good enough. Boycotting the system because the CBA needs to change for 22yr olds would be even stupider because it's not gonna change til a new one is written & signed in 3yrs. There's just zero good reasons to hold out
New Look Devil's
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.03.2018

Sep 19 @ 7:40 PM ET
Holy crap. Can’t believe you guys are busting Woods ass so much. Any contract could be the last one you sign. Players get injuries, concussions, careers end. The team needs this guy and we aren’t talking about a lot of money or term.

Getter dun.

- Queenie_5_hole

That's why we are busting his ass so much. "We aren't talking about a lot of money or term". If we aren't talking about a lot of $ or term he needs to sign, get into game shape in preseason not when the season starts. He's only hurting himself at this point.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Sep 19 @ 8:08 PM ET
That's why we are busting his ass so much. "We aren't talking about a lot of money or term". If we aren't talking about a lot of $ or term he needs to sign, get into game shape in preseason not when the season starts. He's only hurting himself at this point.
- New Look Devil's


So remember this when free agents abandon this penny pinching small market team.

Right now per capfriendly.com we have the lowest payroll in the league. And can’t pony up to sign to sign our 4th leading goal scorer? If Coleman was worth $ 1.8 how is Wood not worth $ 2.2? Grinders are replaceable. Guys with size, grit and blazing speed who scored about 45% more goals have more value. And Wood has more upside.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Sep 20 @ 1:41 AM ET
So remember this when free agents abandon this penny pinching small market team.

Right now per capfriendly.com we have the lowest payroll in the league. And can’t pony up to sign to sign our 4th leading goal scorer? If Coleman was worth $ 1.8 how is Wood not worth $ 2.2? Grinders are replaceable. Guys with size, grit and blazing speed who scored about 45% more goals have more value. And Wood has more upside.

- Queenie_5_hole


Coleman does more, not just a grinder. And they are both in the same boat. Both had okay first years and great second years.

Coleman is the more important player then Wood at this time. Wood is younger, but Coleman does more and allows more time on the offense based off of TK/GVs.

Coleman: Age 26
79 games, 13 goals, 25 points, +7, 10EVG, 3SHG, 12EVA, 146 shots,
TOI 14:24(includes PK), FO% 46.9(missed 50% by 33), 57BLK, 216H, 68TK, 21GV

66.4% in EV DZS, EV GF38 and GA37, EV Fenwick 49.3%, EV Corsi 49.3(started an overwhelming amount of starts more in the DZ then Wood).

Wood: Age 22
76 games, 19 goals, 32 points, -6, 16EVG, 3PPG, 13EVA, 170 shots,
TOI 12:28, 22BLK, 75H, 24TK, 36GV

55.3% in EV DZS, EV GF36 and GA39, EV Fenwick 50.6%, EV Corsi 49.9.


https://www.hockey-refere.../players/c/colembl01.html

https://www.hockey-refere...m/players/w/woodmi01.html
thechezman
New Jersey Devils
Location: 9083103373, NJ
Joined: 04.24.2016

Sep 20 @ 3:20 AM ET
Glad your not the GM...

Wood is a 4th line player.
Wood scored 19 goals last year and he scored 8 goals 2 years ago. He was very bad in the playoffs. should have been benched.

In his first contract here being a holdout over a little money.If he misses the trip send him packing .. More skilled players coming up in Mcleod , Anderson Quenneville , Lappin , And bigger guys like Gabriel and Tangali. with out wood..

Hall-Nico-Bratt
Mojo-Zacha - Palmieri
Coleman - Zajac - Noesen
Quenneville - Boyle - Mcleod
----
And still have
Speers - Anderson -Seney -Stafford -Tangani - Gabriel - Lappin - Pietila

Miles sign or wlak...... No biggy......

Shampoo
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.20.2018

Sep 20 @ 5:21 AM ET
Glad your not the GM...

Wood is a 4th line player.
Wood scored 19 goals last year and he scored 8 goals 2 years ago. He was very bad in the playoffs. should have been benched.

In his first contract here being a holdout over a little money.If he misses the trip send him packing .. More skilled players coming up in Mcleod , Anderson Quenneville , Lappin , And bigger guys like Gabriel and Tangali. with out wood..

Hall-Nico-Bratt
Mojo-Zacha - Palmieri
Coleman - Zajac - Noesen
Quenneville - Boyle - Mcleod
----
And still have
Speers - Anderson -Seney -Stafford -Tangani - Gabriel - Lappin - Pietila

Miles sign or wlak...... No biggy......

- thechezman

You are a meat head. You say he scores 19 last year abd 8 2 years ago ???? What the (frank) does 2 years ago and 8 goals have to do with youre arguement ? It does show he has gotten better ever single year since high school. Has he proven he can score 20 goals, no not yet but he came close last year and his total has rised every single season so by youre logic he has certainly proven hinself as someone who has improved every season...

If either Gabriel or Tangradi are anywhere near the big squad than we have serious issues and should be worried about who will we take in the top 5 of the draft.

How many nhl goals do those guys you listed have ? Yet they are all magically better then him when they havent either been able to make the team before or have never come close to dominating even their jr teams so how are they locks to steal Miles spot and whos to say because he is missing pre season he is out of shape ? The guy could be in the best shape of his life for all we know...
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Sep 20 @ 11:16 AM ET
Glad your not the GM...

Wood is a 4th line player.
Wood scored 19 goals last year and he scored 8 goals 2 years ago. He was very bad in the playoffs. should have been benched.

In his first contract here being a holdout over a little money.If he misses the trip send him packing .. More skilled players coming up in Mcleod , Anderson Quenneville , Lappin , And bigger guys like Gabriel and Tangali. with out wood..

Hall-Nico-Bratt
Mojo-Zacha - Palmieri
Coleman - Zajac - Noesen
Quenneville - Boyle - Mcleod
----
And still have
Speers - Anderson -Seney -Stafford -Tangani - Gabriel - Lappin - Pietila

Miles sign or wlak...... No biggy......

- thechezman


Remind me how much time Wood spent on our fourth line?

How much time did he spend elsewhere?

But Bratt's a first line winger? Seem to remember him getting sat down a lot an d losing that gig.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Sep 20 @ 12:44 PM ET
I don't get the "bad in the playoffs" argument. It was a 5 game series that wasn't particularly close. There weren't a lot of positives to take away from the series other than we made it to the playoffs.