Sens surely did not get enough. In fact, should Wilson not be able to sign Karlsson at the TDL it is still possible that Wilson could move EK for a much bigger haul than he paid. Karlsson signed a team friendly deal last go-around, his loyalty should not be questioned. More on the GM and the owner than the fans. The rebuild will start for real when Melnyk and Dorion are gone.
- winsix

I guess San Jose could but why would they?
They're going to be contending, they're not trading karlsson to anyone. Any team trading for karlsson as a rental will be a contender, nd not likely to be giving away any current assets

Iwith time to reflect. ..not that was completely off the table. m still going to my usual 3 or 4 games a year. Like to see Edmonton. Winnipeg . Nashville washington.

And see at least 1 b sens game..

Iwith time to reflect. ..not that was completely off the table. m still going to my usual 3 or 4 games a year. Like to see Edmonton. Winnipeg . Nashville washington.

And see at least 1 b sens game..
- spazzbot

F that

Eugene gets $0 from me this entire season

F that

Eugene gets $0 from me this entire season
- AlfieisKing

Same here. F Eugene!

Same here. F Eugene!
- SensFan25

i love live nhl hockey and the sens.... out of pure fantasy im sure if they started 20-0 .you would be aboard

btw eugene wont miss a meal or sell because the arena is not sold out

i love live nhl hockey and the sens.... out of pure fantasy im sure if they started 20-0 .you would be aboard

btw eugene wont miss a meal or sell because the arena is not sold out
- spazzbot

Karlsson was all class. He was the heartbeat of the team and a generational (every 10-15 years) type talent. It doesn't just come down to winning but also how you treat players and important people to your community

Sens surely did not get enough. In fact, should Wilson not be able to sign Karlsson at the TDL it is still possible that Wilson could move EK for a much bigger haul than he paid. Karlsson signed a team friendly deal last go-around, his loyalty should not be questioned. More on the GM and the owner than the fans. The rebuild will start for real when Melnyk and Dorion are gone.
- winsix

A+

It astounds me that people choose not to believe what Melnyk says. He told us back in February that he wanted to trade Karlsson. He said he wanted to start this season with 10 new faces in the line up and everybody laughed.

He says that by next season he hopes the Sens will have 15 or 16 new faces in the line up.

He said he is going to be around Ottawa for a long time, He followed that up by saying the franchise belonged to Ottawa and would remain here. He clearly separated the Sens from Himself in those two statements. Both statements can remain true if he stays on as a minority partner in LeBretton and allows team ownership to be recapitalized. Remember he has been saying for several years he wants a partner(s).

The need for money is going to shape the final outcome. But. make no mistake, Melnyk is on his way out. It will happen one of three ways. Exactly the way he planned. God's plan. Ot, most likely, his finances and creditors dictating a common sense solution.

If the Sens were any other business, obervers would note that they are cutting way back on their management overhead, they are reducing salaries and they are sending their customers multiple messages involving long term change and improvement. These are universal business signals of an impending ownership change. The old owner does all the dirty work for improving the books. the new owner has a free hand to come in and do all the good stuff to please the customers.

Formenton continues his outstanding play and is moving towards being able to lock down a starting position on opening night, probably on the first line.

“He makes a few guys look like cones out there,” Ottawa Senators coach Guy Boucher said of Formenton, who scored during Saturday’s intrasquad scrimmage. “It’s not the guys’ fault. It’s just that he’s so impressive. If you give this guy a bit of room and you didn’t gap up well, goodbye. A few of our older guys are finding that out.”

In addition to Formenton, I think White, Chaplik and Wolanin are locks. I think Chabot, Harpur and Tierney fall within Eugene's slippery definition of 10 new roster players from a year ago.

Following Melnyk's discussion points, 3 more young guys will be added to roster (note: his points were made before the injury to Pageau).

Tkachuck
Jaros
Batherson
Brown
Balcers
Gustavsson

I think it is about the kids. I have decided that I am going to watch and have fun following them over this season and next.

A+

It astounds me that people choose not to believe what Melnyk says. He told us back in February that he wanted to trade Karlsson. He said he wanted to start this season with 10 new faces in the line up and everybody laughed.

He says that by next season he hopes the Sens will have 15 or 16 new faces in the line up.

He said he is going to be around Ottawa for a long time, He followed that up by saying the franchise belonged to Ottawa and would remain here. He clearly separated the Sens from Himself in those two statements. Both statements can remain true if he stays on as a minority partner in LeBretton and allows team ownership to be recapitalized. Remember he has been saying for several years he wants a partner(s).

The need for money is going to shape the final outcome. But. make no mistake, Melnyk is on his way out. It will happen one of three ways. Exactly the way he planned. God's plan. Ot, most likely, his finances and creditors dictating a common sense solution.

If the Sens were any other business, obervers would note that they are cutting way back on their management overhead, they are reducing salaries and they are sending their customers multiple messages involving long term change and improvement. These are universal business signals of an impending ownership change. The old owner does all the dirty work for improving the books. the new owner has a free hand to come in and do all the good stuff to please the customers.
- spatso

this is like groundhog day.

Formenton continues his outstanding play and is moving towards being able to lock down a starting position on opening night, probably on the first line.

“He makes a few guys look like cones out there,” Ottawa Senators coach Guy Boucher said of Formenton, who scored during Saturday’s intrasquad scrimmage. “It’s not the guys’ fault. It’s just that he’s so impressive. If you give this guy a bit of room and you didn’t gap up well, goodbye. A few of our older guys are finding that out.”

In addition to Formenton, I think White, Chaplik and Wolanin are locks. I think Chabot, Harpur and Tierney fall within Eugene's slippery definition of 10 new roster players from a year ago.

Following Melnyk's discussion points, 3 more young guys will be added to roster (note: his points were made before the injury to Pageau).

Tkachuck
Jaros
Batherson
Brown
Balcers
Gustavsson

I think it is about the kids. I have decided that I am going to watch and have fun following them over this season and next.
- spatso

I think a lot of hockey fans will have fun watching the Sens. Leafs fans when the Leafs play them. Habs fans when the Habs play them. etc. etc.

A+

It astounds me that people choose not to believe what Melnyk says. He told us back in February that he wanted to trade Karlsson. He said he wanted to start this season with 10 new faces in the line up and everybody laughed.

He says that by next season he hopes the Sens will have 15 or 16 new faces in the line up.

He said he is going to be around Ottawa for a long time, He followed that up by saying the franchise belonged to Ottawa and would remain here. He clearly separated the Sens from Himself in those two statements. Both statements can remain true if he stays on as a minority partner in LeBretton and allows team ownership to be recapitalized. Remember he has been saying for several years he wants a partner(s).

The need for money is going to shape the final outcome. But. make no mistake, Melnyk is on his way out. It will happen one of three ways. Exactly the way he planned. God's plan. Ot, most likely, his finances and creditors dictating a common sense solution.

If the Sens were any other business, obervers would note that they are cutting way back on their management overhead, they are reducing salaries and they are sending their customers multiple messages involving long term change and improvement. These are universal business signals of an impending ownership change. The old owner does all the dirty work for improving the books. the new owner has a free hand to come in and do all the good stuff to please the customers.
- spatso

Not a good situation

Karlsson was all class. He was the heartbeat of the team and a generational (every 10-15 years) type talent. It doesn't just come down to winning but also how you treat players and important people to your community
- AlfieisKing

I get it,Special K is an elite player. But he had no intentions of resigning here.Because of Melnyk? Because of many personal issues? because half the room didn't want him there?.. I don't know for sure. One thing he is now a small fish in a big pool,rather then a big fish in a small pool

I get it,Special K is an elite player. But he had no intentions of resigning here.Because of Melnyk? Because of many personal issues? because half the room didn't want him there?.. I don't know for sure. One thing he is now a small fish in a big pool,rather then a big fish in a small pool
- spazzbot

Is that a joke? He is still the best player on his team........hes still the biggest fish, just swimming in a better pond

Understand, you guys don't value pre-season. And, you believe going to the ECF was meaningless. I guess you will one day decide what you think is relevant.

It is my general observation that Leaf fans have been indifferent to all outcomes since the game 7 playoff collapse against the Bruins a few years ago. Since then many of you try to react with indifference to all outcomes. Most often you come across as cynical and bitter.

Now that the Leafs have a young, exciting team they deserve better fans than your indifferent attitudes. When is the last time you had fun and really enjoyed a hockey game.

If your singular purpose is to see your team win or, as I often hear some of you say, dominate another team than I wonder how much joy you really take from being a hockey fan.

I wish some of you guys would work on losing the bitterness. Hockey is for fun and I think some of you guys have lost sight of the fact it is a game.
- spatso

Understand, you guys don't value pre-season. And, you believe going to the ECF was meaningless. I guess you will one day decide what you think is relevant.

It is my general observation that Leaf fans have been indifferent to all outcomes since the game 7 playoff collapse against the Bruins a few years ago. Since then many of you try to react with indifference to all outcomes. Most often you come across as cynical and bitter.

Now that the Leafs have a young, exciting team they deserve better fans than your indifferent attitudes. When is the last time you had fun and really enjoyed a hockey game.

If your singular purpose is to see your team win or, as I often hear some of you say, dominate another team than I wonder how much joy you really take from being a hockey fan.

I wish some of you guys would work on losing the bitterness. Hockey is for fun and I think some of you guys have lost sight of the fact it is a game.
- spatso
- systemtool

LoL the highlighted is the best part of this

Putting any blame for this debacle on Karlsson is literally the dumbest thing ever written on a website frequented by spatso and prock......let that sink in

This is 1000000000% on melnyk being a cheap, broke ass POS, and dorion being a completely incompetent GM
- sensarmy_11

Honestly I don't understand how Maverick has unsupervised internet privileges IRL.

Melnyk is somehow competent and not to be blamed for literally dumping Heatley, Chara, Hossa, Karlsson, Hoffman and soon-to-be Duchene + Stone?


The only passion we should be showing is more and more money being invested into getting Melnyk out. Billboards, social media impact and not attending the games will put a lot of pressure on Melnyk.

He is a rat and it doesn't matter how close we come to a Stanley Cup because he is only interested in PROFITS. Once we get competitive, like we have a couple times now, we watch as important players are traded or not resigned. The man literally dresses in Sens memorabilia in every public interview as a means of marketing.

We are loyal and good fans but Melnyks name will always come with a bitter aftertaste because his name taints this franchises legitimacy.
GMs all across the league see that and take advantage by universally lowering the price value on the market for Sens players and therefore pay less than market value.
In what world would two B prospects, a 3rd liner and a bunch of conditional picks gather you an almost PPG defenseman that is considered by many to be generational?

I think the culture of Melnyk is what needs to be rooted.








But what do I know

i love live nhl hockey and the sens.... out of pure fantasy im sure if they started 20-0 .you would be aboard

btw eugene wont miss a meal or sell because the arena is not sold out
- spazzbot

Not buying tickets is a form of protest that Melnyk will notice.

While there is a component of Ottawa ticket sales that is driven by team performance, there is a huge core that will stick with the team through ups and downs. I`m not sure that this core are on board with all of Melnyk`s stupidity, insults and bad decisions that are the result of Melnyk`s impulsiveness and ego. Trading Karlsson for basket of second/third tier assets because Melnyk wants him gone now is inexcusable.

F that

Eugene gets $0 from me this entire season
- AlfieisKing

That is an excellent strategy for Sens fans.

You should do everything in your power to make sure they are not financially viable.

That is definitely going to attract new owners AND absolutely going to make sure the team stays in Ottawa.

That is an excellent strategy for Sens fans.

You should do everything in your power to make sure they are not financially viable.

That is definitely going to attract new owners AND absolutely going to make sure the team stays in Ottawa.
- Aetherial

It will definitely attract new buyers because the more fans stay away, the more desperate melnyk will be to sell.

It's a very well documented fact that the fans are openly protesting melnyk's ownership.....with change of ownership you can pretty much guarantee the return of fans

It will definitely attract new buyers because the more fans stay away, the more desperate melnyk will be to sell.

It's a very well documented fact that the fans are openly protesting melnyk's ownership.....with change of ownership you can pretty much guarantee the return of fans
- sensarmy_11

honest question, what makes you think that Now would change things with Melnyk and be swayed by pressure. Fore years he has been a laughing stock of an owner with 0 regard to the fan base to the team, refused to put any resources into the team being better.

Why do you think some Billboards, mean tweets, and a select few refusing to pay money to go to games is going to change him now?

Dreger: “Hockey people are talking about it so I will pass it along, some believe Melnyk relishes the opportunity to get to the cap floor and just see how things go, there is no sense in spending and wasting money if you are not going to be a contending team.” #Sens

— NHL Prospects Watcher (@Prospects_Watch) June 19, 2018

He has never respected the fan base, what makes you think he will now that Karlsson has been traded. The guy is an egomaniac, he would burn this thing into the ground and go broke before being told what to do or forced to do anything

honest question, what makes you think that Now would change things with Melnyk and be swayed by pressure. Fore years he has been a laughing stock of an owner with 0 regard to the fan base to the team, refused to put any resources into the team being better.

Why do you think some Billboards, mean tweets, and a select few refusing to pay money to go to games is going to change him now?

Dreger: “Hockey people are talking about it so I will pass it along, some believe Melnyk relishes the opportunity to get to the cap floor and just see how things go, there is no sense in spending and wasting money if you are not going to be a contending team.” #Sens

— NHL Prospects Watcher (@Prospects_Watch) June 19, 2018

He has never respected the fan base, what makes you think he will now that Karlsson has been traded. The guy is an egomaniac, he would burn this thing into the ground and go broke before being told what to do or forced to do anything
- DDM-Coga

Hes already had to get league help twice to meet payroll......eventually the league will be in a position to force him to sell.

Hes already had to get league help twice to meet payroll......eventually the league will be in a position to force him to sell.
- sensarmy_11

League cant force anyone to sell, he hasn't done anything unlawful or detrimental to the league. Being cheap and a lunatic isnt grounds for the league to step in.

The NHL has bailed out the coyotes for over a decade, and if they are bailing out the Sens the precedent is set, they aren't going to make him sell the Sens bc the fan base is mad at him

For the sake of the fan base I hope he does sell, but from how he has portrayed himself or the last decade or so as an owner, I cant see him being bullied into selling

League cant force anyone to sell, he hasn't done anything unlawful or detrimental to the league. Being cheap and a lunatic isnt grounds for the league to step in.

The NHL has bailed out the coyotes for over a decade, and if they are bailing out the Sens the precedent is set, they aren't going to make him sell the Sens bc the fan base is mad at him

For the sake of the fan base I hope he doest sell, but from how he has portrayed himself or the last decade or so as an owner, I cant see him being bullied into selling
- DDM-Coga

If the league is forced to step in and pay players for the owner they can absolutely force him out. The league bailed out the totes when nobody owned them.....they didn't bail out an owner

If the league is forced to step in and pay players for the owner they can absolutely force him out. The league bailed out the totes when nobody owned them.....they didn't bail out an owner
- sensarmy_11

League didnt step in to pay players...even if that rumour of the refinancing loan to make payroll is true. It is a loan that that organization applied for and was granted. They are now within their right to use that refinancing loan as they need to as part of their proposal

Again, the league cant force an owner to sell if he is playing within the system that is set up and has not done anything unlawful or detrimental to the league

Being a bad owner isnt enough

It will definitely attract new buyers because the more fans stay away, the more desperate melnyk will be to sell.

It's a very well documented fact that the fans are openly protesting melnyk's ownership.....with change of ownership you can pretty much guarantee the return of fans
- sensarmy_11

There is a meeting later this month with the NCC where Melnyk needs to demonstrate that he has pulled together the financing necessary to complete LeBretton.

He will not able to do this without changing the capital structure of the existing business. I don't believe that Melnyk is calling the shots anymore. He is responding to a script. Not sure what the final outcome will be but I am certain other owners will be added to the roster.