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walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 14 @ 9:31 PM ET
Why in the f@ck are we talking about Tavares? Move along Walshy.
- thundachunk

I were wondering the same. Yer man Pres bought Tuvurus up for some reason?

Anywho, night night fellas.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Sep 14 @ 9:48 PM ET
Pierre Dorion would like to add something.

https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1040412758943195136

- walshyleafsfan

What a joke of a GM. I could do a better job and I have no idea what I am doing.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 14 @ 9:57 PM ET
I were wondering the same. Yer man Pres bought Tuvurus up for some reason?

Anywho, night night fellas.

- walshyleafsfan


Night walshy, I don't know who this Traveris fellow is but tovurus looks like a player.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 14 @ 10:16 PM ET
Show me a link where Zetterberg said he is retiring. Thanks.
- Marwood


there is none & won’t be one. Done
The IF’S are for Pres. 👍
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 14 @ 10:20 PM ET
Edler - Karlsson
Hughes-Tanev
Juolevi -Gudbranson

I’d feel pretty good about that depth and also feel you could have two decent offensive lines with those pairings

- golfingsince


Geez there is someone out there liking my D pairing hopes to a tee 👍👍😂
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 14 @ 10:21 PM ET
What a joke of a GM. I could do a better job and I have no idea what I am doing.
- Retinalz


Just need a dart board & voila
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 14 @ 10:56 PM ET
No one here likes you.
- Marwood

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 14 @ 11:01 PM ET
a sh*t show a simmering
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 14 @ 11:34 PM ET
Once again, Ruby saving the day. He’s on a roll today.

There seems to be some confusion on the whole recapture versus 35+ contract. Different, but also the same reason for both penalties.

The 35+ rule was to stop teams from paying a veteran FA a poop ton of money for a couple years but spreading out the cap hit over years they would never play. If said player *cough* Pronger *cough* retired before the end of the contract the team would be on the hook for the entire cap hit each year.

The recapture penalty was similarly designed to stop teams from front loading a contract said player *cough* Hossa *cough* would never complete. It takes the difference between the actual salary and the cap hit early on and spreads it out as a penalty later.

If Luongo retires early it has nothing to do with being 35, as he was not 35 when he signed the contract.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 14 @ 11:58 PM ET
No confusion here on recapture penalties.
My statements were only for players not 35 at the time of their contract signings taking them to 35+. The rule was introduced for old backsliding &/or front end loaded & similar future contracts. Luongo Zetterberg & others fall into that category.

Pres is the one confused.

Ty Vintsy
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 15 @ 12:07 AM ET
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 15 @ 12:14 AM ET
No confusion here on recapture penalties.
My statements were only for players not 35 at the time of their contract signings taking them to 35+. The rule was introduced for old backsliding &/or front end loaded & similar future contracts. Luongo Zetterberg & others fall into that category.

Pres is the one confused.

Ty Vintsy

- Nighthawk


I don’t think you do understand. Because what you just said makes no sense.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 15 @ 12:17 AM ET
I don’t think you do understand. Because what you just said makes no sense.
- 1970vintage


What? Zetterberg is a recapture if he officially retires as will Luongo. Where is the confusion? It does make sense. That's the gist of my posts with Pres along with the IF’s etc he chooses to use. He cites the ‘Luongo Rule’ but not in totality. It’s in his name only & does not solely applied to him.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 15 @ 12:36 AM ET
What? Zetterberg is a recapture if he officially retires as will Luongo. Where is the confusion? It does make sense. That's the gist of my posts with Pres along with the IF’s etc he chooses to use. He cites the ‘Luongo Rule’ but not in totality. It’s in his name only & does not solely applied to him.
- Nighthawk


Ok, just stop saying 35, because it has nothing to do with it. I haven’t looked at Zetterberg contract, but recapture only matters for those front loaded dozen year contracts, and I think Hossa has set the standard on how get around that. It will probably still (frank) the Canucks, because that’s just how the league rolls.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 15 @ 12:40 AM ET
No confusion here on recapture penalties.
My statements were only for players not 35 at the time of their contract signings taking them to 35+. The rule was introduced for old backsliding &/or front end loaded & similar future contracts. Luongo Zetterberg & others fall into that category.

Pres is the one confused.

Ty Vintsy

- Nighthawk

Oh yes there is.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 15 @ 12:51 AM ET
No confusion here on recapture penalties.
My statements were only for players not 35 at the time of their contract signings taking them to 35+. The rule was introduced for old backsliding &/or front end loaded & similar future contracts. Luongo Zetterberg & others fall into that category.

Pres is the one confused.

Ty Vintsy

- Nighthawk







This whole thing started with you saying we don't need to worry about Luongos contract, or Erikssons, or Beagles, or Rousells.
That we could just buy out Eriksson or trade them off, etc....
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 15 @ 12:57 AM ET
Ok, just stop saying 35, because it has nothing to do with it. I haven’t looked at Zetterberg contract, but recapture only matters for those front loaded dozen year contracts, and I think Hossa has set the standard on how get around that. It will probably still (frank) the Canucks, because that’s just how the league rolls.
- 1970vintage


Geez man Zetts is a 12yr contract & he is 37yrs old with 3yrs left.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 15 @ 12:58 AM ET
Oh yes there is.
- Marwood


Sorry bro but there is google if you want it clarified👍👍
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 15 @ 1:08 AM ET
Geez man Zetts is a 12yr contract & he is 37yrs old with 3yrs left.
- Nighthawk


My point is, his age has nothing to do with it. The length might also not matter. Kovalchuk had a recapture penalty for the devils, but it was tiny, because there was very little benefit early on. Luongo has recapture possibilities because he earned $10m while the cap hit was 6. Just get over the recapture and age perspective, because they aren’t related.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 15 @ 1:13 AM ET
My point is, his age has nothing to do with it. The length might also not matter. Kovalchuk had a recapture penalty for the devils, but it was tiny, because there was very little benefit early on. Luongo has recapture possibilities because he earned $10m while the cap hit was 6. Just get over the recapture and age perspective, because they aren’t related.
- 1970vintage


I agree & understand age has nothing to do with it. Only added facts nothing more. I get it it was a way to circumvent the cap ceiling for a contract.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 15 @ 1:19 AM ET
https://thehockeynews.com...s-worrisome-for-red-wings

There is the recapture example in the case of Zetterberg. The article is older & uses it if he were to OFFICIALLY retire for the 2019-20 season.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 15 @ 1:21 AM ET
My point is, his age has nothing to do with it. The length might also not matter. Kovalchuk had a recapture penalty for the devils, but it was tiny, because there was very little benefit early on. Luongo has recapture possibilities because he earned $10m while the cap hit was 6. Just get over the recapture and age perspective, because they aren’t related.
- 1970vintage


Agreed, but I guess we still shouldn't plan for if he retires early
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 15 @ 1:22 AM ET
I agree & understand age has nothing to do with it. Only added facts nothing more. I get it it was a way to circumvent the cap ceiling for a contract.
- Nighthawk


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 15 @ 1:28 AM ET
Agreed, but I guess we still shouldn't plan for if he retires early
- Pres.cup


Geez i agree with you.

Finally have a batting average 1 for ever.
Time to retire listening to you while i am ahead & i will consider one to be a streak 👍
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 15 @ 1:32 AM ET
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