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HockeyBuzz Hotstove
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 09.04.2013

Sep 14 @ 11:48 AM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Thoughts on the Erik Karlsson trade?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 14 @ 11:52 AM ET
Jack Hughes

david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 14 @ 11:54 AM ET
Agreed on all fronts, except James' argment that they'd be better off letting him go for nothing.

Perception or not, you have to get something back for your player, even if it's a poor return. The fact they couldn't even get one of Meier or Hertl though really stings.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 14 @ 11:54 AM ET
Jack Hughes


- DDM-Coga


So you think the Sharks are going to miss the playoffs, and the Sens will win the lottery with that pick.

That's a bold prediction, and I'm going to hold you to it.
James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

Sep 14 @ 11:58 AM ET
Agreed on all fronts, except James' argment that they'd be better off letting him go for nothing.

Perception or not, you have to get something back for your player, even if it's a poor return. The fact they couldn't even get one of Meier or Hertl though really stings.

- david22



I honestly think that making your franchise into a total joke is worse than letting him go for nothing. At least then you tell your fans "we did everything we could to keep him here."

Why exactly did they have to make a bad deal 65 games before the trade deadline?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 14 @ 12:00 PM ET
So you think the Sharks are going to miss the playoffs, and the Sens will win the lottery with that pick.

That's a bold prediction, and I'm going to hold you to it.

- david22


I dont like this spin zone
dragonoffrost
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 14 @ 12:01 PM ET
I honestly think that making your franchise into a total joke is worse than letting him go for nothing. At least then you tell your fans "we did everything we could to keep him here."

Why exactly did they have to make a bad deal 65 games before the trade deadline?

- james_tanner1


Simple way to spin it back even though it's a bold faced lie and would be seen right through? "EK would have been a problem in the locker room this whole season if the contract negotiations continued the way they were going and he was holding us hostage for a bigger deal than we could rightfully give him with the other future deals we needed to sign also."
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Sep 14 @ 12:04 PM ET
I honestly think that making your franchise into a total joke is worse than letting him go for nothing. At least then you tell your fans "we did everything we could to keep him here."

Why exactly did they have to make a bad deal 65 games before the trade deadline?

- james_tanner1

how long has Arizona been a joke franchise?

also they didn't get a 4th line player. thats just a flat out silly statement.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Sep 14 @ 12:05 PM ET
... you know what's a worse trade?

John Tavares to Toronto for a sentimental tribune article.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 14 @ 12:07 PM ET
I honestly think that making your franchise into a total joke is worse than letting him go for nothing. At least then you tell your fans "we did everything we could to keep him here."

Why exactly did they have to make a bad deal 65 games before the trade deadline?

- james_tanner1


I agree they rushed the deal. But letting an asset go for nothing could also be argued as a poor move that makes you look like a joke.

The Isles are getting a fair amount of criticism for that very move.
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 14 @ 12:08 PM ET
I honestly think that making your franchise into a total joke is worse than letting him go for nothing. At least then you tell your fans "we did everything we could to keep him here."

Why exactly did they have to make a bad deal 65 games before the trade deadline?

- james_tanner1


Think you cracked the code right there Jimmy
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 14 @ 12:08 PM ET
Great trade for both organizations.

I like what i'm seeing from both
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Prospect, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Sep 14 @ 12:10 PM ET
Tanner- you do not know hockey if you think Karlsson is the best player Ottawa ever had. Remember a guy named Hossa? Much better overall hockey player, even to this day.
FinnGod
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: ND
Joined: 01.25.2018

Sep 14 @ 12:10 PM ET
Watching the Ottawa Senators has made this the most tolerable offseason in recent memory. So entertaining
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 14 @ 12:11 PM ET
Watching the Ottawa Senators has made this the most tolerable offseason in recent memory. So entertaining
- FinnGod


What did we ever do to you?
FinnGod
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: ND
Joined: 01.25.2018

Sep 14 @ 12:13 PM ET
What did we ever do to you?
- david22

Nothing friend. The offseason is just a bleak and dark time...we need something to watch.
maroussi
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.08.2006

Sep 14 @ 12:13 PM ET


Tanner seems more ticked with the Oilers than the Sens. An interesting perspective. But please do consider that whatever the Oil could have offered, EK was unlikely to have signed to stay beyond one year. Staying beyond one year in San Jose is a worthy consideration.
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Sep 14 @ 12:16 PM ET
Jack Hughes


- DDM-Coga


This is just as dumb as the trade was

No F#%*ing shot
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Sep 14 @ 12:18 PM ET
... you know what's a worse trade?

John Tavares to Toronto for a sentimental tribune article.

- archromat


John Tavares wasn’t traded. He lied and told front office not to trade him. That he wanted to be an Islander.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 14 @ 12:19 PM ET
This is just as dumb as the trade was

No F#%*ing shot

- BringNYIhome


who hurt you to act this way,
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Sep 14 @ 12:23 PM ET
Erik Karlsson is mediocre to bad at playing defense and his ankle injury cost him half a step. Karlsson will be 29 years old, and looking for a max term and $$ deal next summer that San Jose probably can't afford. He is essentially a rental player for 1 year without a contract extension, and considering the negotiating leverage that Ottawa had (NONE), it could have been a much worse return.


EDIT: WhyTHE (frank) did Ottawa send the Avs their (likely top 3) 1st round pick to only marginally upgrade from Turris to Duchene??? Days like today make me realize that Stan Bowman isn't the worst GM in the NHL....but a close 3rd to worst behind Chiarelli and whoever is in Ottawa.
Procrastinator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Been thinking about joining for years
Joined: 01.02.2017

Sep 14 @ 12:24 PM ET
Tanner- you do not know hockey if you think Karlsson is the best player Ottawa ever had. Remember a guy named Hossa? Much better overall hockey player, even to this day.
- powerenforcer

Give your head a shake.
dragonoffrost
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 14 @ 12:25 PM ET
Tanner- you do not know hockey if you think Karlsson is the best player Ottawa ever had. Remember a guy named Hossa? Much better overall hockey player, even to this day.
- powerenforcer


Hossa? Try Alfredson and you might have had a point.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 14 @ 12:26 PM ET
Erik Karlsson is mediocre to bad at playing defense and his ankle injury cost him half a step. Karlsson will be 29 years old, and looking for a max term and $$ deal next summer that San Jose probably can't afford. He is essentially a rental player for 1 year without a contract extension, and considering the negotiating leverage that Ottawa had (NONE), it could have been a much worse return.
- EnzoD


Flagged this by accident I swear!

Anyway!

Karlsson absolutely looked like he had lost a step. But even then still put up great numbers on a bad team.

There's a chance that he's still behind a step. But its also possible that he comes back from a long off season and is back on his game of being a game breaker every time he's on the ice.

spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

Sep 14 @ 12:28 PM ET
Without a doubt Sens lost big . Even with this likely being a year rental for SJ. There should have been at least 1 key piece for the Sens to do this. Dorion/ Melnyk are liars and just damaging.
Saying that ,Karlsson is going to be 1 year older next year, 1 more year on a fragile ankle, questionable locker room attitude. Whos going to pay him next year 7 x 11 plus bonuses. Someone will and hopefully someone in the East. Be nice to have weakened competition in few years from now.
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