i get what you are saying. i guess its because he has to be very careful choosing his words perhaps?
- jv526

Sure, though even then, I don't think he sounds much different than post losses. You can go back to the interviews post the Nashville series and he's a little more thoughtful with his comments. But he is just a monotone guy - it's a running joke on SCH that all goalies are crazy except for Crawford who is a robot.

Hey Enzo - par for the course with Bowman running this team. And on top of that the Sharks got Karlsson for a song...and a bad one at that. Where the frank was Bowman - can't believe the Hawks didn't have these assets. Ottawa's GM out to be fired.
- DK002

IDK man...Karlsson lost a half step after his ankle was destroyed in the 2017 playoff run. he's going to be 29 next summer when his contract expires and he is a UFA. Undersized Dman that was NEVER great in his own zone, and wil want 8 years x $9mil if not $10 mil. PASS!!

Sure, though even then, I don't think he sounds much different than post losses. You can go back to the interviews post the Nashville series and he's a little more thoughtful with his comments. But he is just a monotone guy - it's a running joke on SCH that all goalies are crazy except for Crawford who is a robot.
- L_B_R

I wasn't referring to how he was talking, I was referring to what he said. Nine months with no hockey, and all he said was he's progressing. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Hawks shut him down for the year like Pittsburg did with Sid several years ago.

Tracey Myers twitter from CC an hour ago:

"Right now I am not ready to go yet."

I wasn't referring to how he was talking, I was referring to what he said. Nine months with no hockey, and all he said was he's progressing. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Hawks shut him down for the year like Pittsburg did with Sid several years ago.
- tvetter

And I wasn't replying to you or your comment, but on jv's that was about how he was talking. I said I think we should go by what he says.

IDK man...Karlsson lost a half step after his ankle was destroyed in the 2017 playoff run. he's going to be 29 next summer when his contract expires and he is a UFA. Undersized Dman that was NEVER great in his own zone, and wil want 8 years x $9mil if not $10 mil. PASS!!
- EnzoD

He wants Doughty money. Or more. 8x11

Both Boqvist and Beaudin looked good in Traverse City. Beaudin is on the smaller side like you are saying they both will grow. I see Beaudin as the next Duncan Keith.

And I wasn't replying to you or your comment, but on jv's that was about how he was talking. I said I think we should go by what he says.
- L_B_R

Oh, I know. I agree with you.

Hey Enzo - par for the course with Bowman running this team. And on top of that the Sharks got Karlsson for a song...and a bad one at that. Where the frank was Bowman - can't believe the Hawks didn't have these assets. Ottawa's GM out to be fired.
- DK002

I still would love to see them get in the ball game for Matt Duchenne, I understand we need defense but this kid is only 27 years old, and if San Jose parted with a less than spectacular package to get Karlsson, I got a think it would be worth looking into, and there you take a gamble, that the kid would come here, have a good year, fall in love with the city, and want to sign here after this year, and there is your top six winger. I don’t know what to say about Connor Murphy, was it he just out swinging a golf club earlier this week? Hopefully like someone said earlier maybe this presents opportunity for a couple of these young defenseman to make a jump. That is why I, me personally, if Ottawa is in the giving mood, especially , After what I seen them take back for their trade yesterday, I would at least have to look into it. And if it would come to be then you tell the captain, here’s your top six winger now shut up and play. And put up at least 80 points

I still would love to see them get in the ball game for Matt Duchenne, I understand we need defense but this kid is only 27 years old, and if San Jose parted with a less than spectacular package to get Karlsson, I got a think it would be worth looking into, and there you take a gamble, that the kid would come here, have a good year, fall in love with the city, and want to sign here after this year, and there is your top six winger. I don’t know what to say about Connor Murphy, was it he just out swinging a golf club earlier this week? Hopefully like someone said earlier maybe this presents opportunity for a couple of these young defenseman to make a jump. That is why I, me personally, if Ottawa is in the giving mood, especially , After what I seen them take back for their trade yesterday, I would at least have to look into it. And if it would come to be then you tell the captain, here’s your top six winger now shut up and play. And put up at least 80 points
- wonthecup10

I'm going to nitpick here and call this out. It's frustrating when fans do this. I know you're probably being facetious, but I think this happens a lot on this board. Odds are he was training for the season and injured himself in his training. He's out 8 weeks, bet he didn't tweak his back on a golf swing. Just something that grinds my gears. *Insert Peter Griffin Picture*

I'm going to nitpick here and call this out. It's frustrating when fans do this. I know you're probably being facetious, but I think this happens a lot on this board. Odds are he was training for the season and injured himself in his training. He's out 8 weeks, bet he didn't tweak his back on a golf swing. Just something that grinds my gears. *Insert Peter Griffin Picture*
- HawksHype

Agree on this. Murphy is a workout beast - these things happen - either in the weight room or on the rink.

For crying out loud Dustin Penner went on IR for three weeks from a sneeze while eating pancakes for breakfast.

This team is F*****...... “F”

Anyone that has grandeur visions of our Hawks making a playoff run and/or cup run is either drunk or doing to much blow....

IMO the tear down needs to occur before getting back to the promised land from 08-15.... which won’t happen until blowman is fired and the franchise has a shake up

Ugh, I really don't understand playing Debrincat on his right. The guy has the best shot on the team and you want him in that left circle ripping one timers.
- fattybeef

He's a right winger and has said he's most comfortable taking passes on his strong side moving up ice.

Here is what I see as options with OTT:

Get Duchene

Saad/Toews/Kane
Schmaltz/Duchene/ADB

Get Stone

Saad/Toews/Kane
ADB/Schmaltz/Stone

I just don't see them giving up what it might take to get either of these guys, but either option takes pressure off of a weak defense, and puts more pressure on opponents' defense.

Here is what I see as options with OTT:

Get Duchene

Saad/Toews/Kane
Schmaltz/Duchene/ADB

Get Stone

Saad/Toews/Kane
ADB/Schmaltz/Stone

I just don't see them giving up what it might take to get either of these guys, but either option takes pressure off of a weak defense, and puts more pressure on opponents' defense.
- Return of the Roar

Do you think either of those guys means the Hawks are in serious contention to win the cup? If not, then it's not worth it because it'd likely be for only the one season. Duchene wants in the $7m range like E.Kane/Pacioretty/JVR while Stone wants what he's getting now or more which is already over $7m. The Hawks can't take on either one without a roster player being moved, Anisimov is the only real option and the likihood he put Ottawa on his trade-list seems slim to none.

Here is what I see as options with OTT:

Get Duchene

Saad/Toews/Kane
Schmaltz/Duchene/ADB

Get Stone

Saad/Toews/Kane
ADB/Schmaltz/Stone



I just don't see them giving up what it might take to get either of these guys, but either option takes pressure off of a weak defense, and puts more pressure on opponents' defense.
- Return of the Roar

All valid moves... I agree.... but what’s your GM doing? I have a pretty good idea..

I like our team
- Stan_Bowman

I like our revenue

Neither does this: Corey Crawford: "We want to talk more about injuries
- walleyeb1[this year]. "Last year was a concussion, and I'm still getting over symptoms. Most of them are gone, but I'm not clear yet. Until that happens, I won't be back in."

good chance he finishes his contract on IR and then retires. situation turns into a quality of life after the game scenario, get back to 100% after almost a year recovery and then take a knee or clapper to the head and could revert back. going to be 34 this year anyways and getting long in the tooth...thank crow for the outstanding play in 2 cups and find the new tendy of the future

Do you think either of those guys means the Hawks are in serious contention to win the cup? If not, then it's not worth it because it'd likely be for only the one season. Duchene wants in the $7m range like E.Kane/Pacioretty/JVR while Stone wants what he's getting now or more which is already over $7m. The Hawks can't take on either one without a roster player being moved, Anisimov is the only real option and the likihood he put Ottawa on his trade-list seems slim to none.
- L_B_R

3-team trade?

Still highly unlikely.

Do you think either of those guys means the Hawks are in serious contention to win the cup? If not, then it's not worth it because it'd likely be for only the one season. Duchene wants in the $7m range like E.Kane/Pacioretty/JVR while Stone wants what he's getting now or more which is already over $7m. The Hawks can't take on either one without a roster player being moved, Anisimov is the only real option and the likihood he put Ottawa on his trade-list seems slim to none.
- L_B_R

By that logic we shouldn't give ADB or Schmaltz their big pay day either, because signing them to big dollar deals would crowd out other additions to the squad. Unless all of the chips are in the rookie bank, in which case it is a long next three years to see who sticks, and if three years of lottery picks change things much.

If I am staring at $13-15MM in upcoming expenditures next year no matter what I do, why not bring Stone or Duchene in for one year to push the development of the younger guys, upgrade the top six while you are at it, and then ask where the best bang for the buck comes from at the end of the season.

I think they are at a go big or go bust nexus right now. Anything in between will screw them out of high draft picks down the road.

I actually prefer the go bust path with the sheer number of holes in the team from the net on out.

good chance he finishes his contract on IR and then retires. situation turns into a quality of life after the game scenario, get back to 100% after almost a year recovery and then take a knee or clapper to the head and could revert back. going to be 34 this year anyways and getting long in the tooth...thank crow for the outstanding play in 2 cups and find the new tendy of the future
- WiscoReg

Wouldn't be surprised. Bowman just said as of now Ward is the starter.

Debrincat maybe prefers the right - it's where he played the most over his career.
- L_B_R

Completely agree.

People make too much of what side wings play on especially. As someone who has played wing at very low casual levels, there are benefits to both. Easier to get your shot off on the off wing, but much easier to pass using your forehand to anywhere on the ice when you play the wing side same as your dominant hand.

By that logic we shouldn't give ADB or Schmaltz their big pay day either, because signing them to big dollar deals would crowd out other additions to the squad. Unless all of the chips are in the rookie bank, in which case it is a long next three years to see who sticks, and if three years of lottery picks change things much.

If I am staring at $13-15MM in upcoming expenditures next year no matter what I do, why not bring Stone or Duchene in for one year to push the development of the younger guys, upgrade the top six while you are at it, and then ask where the best bang for the buck comes from at the end of the season.

I think they are at a go big or go bust nexus right now. Anything in between will screw them out of high draft picks down the road.

I actually prefer the go bust path with the sheer number of holes in the team from the net on out.
- Return of the Roar

Uh no it doesn't? UFA vs RFA and all that jazz.

Look, my main this is this: the best teams, including the Hawks of the past, have grown their rosters primarily through their own system so I'm not seeing the problem for the Hawks to do it now as well. Schmalz is 22 and Debrincat is 20, neither has hit their prime yet but look to be high quality offensive players, so investing in them is a smarter move unless the team is closer to contention than they currently are. Jmo.

I think this team will be better than some are predicting, but I also don't believe they're near cup contention (I'm optimistic, not delusional), so I'm hesitant to add anything that isn't guaranteed to carry into the future. You'd just be giving up assets for nothing if you're not keeping them long-term and/or seriously ready to contend. Maybe my opinion would change if the team really clicks and they look great but for now the path should be developing the young guys in system and trying to add good quality players - but maybe don't shoot for the most expensive guys. I'd love Stone, been a fan since before he broke out, but he's going to want to be fat paid.

Tbf I really shouldn't have said they definitely couldn't afford one of those players - they technically can if the Hawks jettison some other guys - but it'd be tight because those guys will be UFA and are going to want bigger money (than our current RFAs). If they could get them cheap and then sign then, maybe, but it seems unlikely.

Is this a serious post?

If so, I think this is the only positive thing I've heard a Flyers fan say about him.

What's your take on him and what do you think he can bring to the Hawks?
- Justin Lowe

Hey Justin, thanks for the question. I've been a Flyers fan for 44 years and started following the Hawks in the 80's during the Dave Manson years. I've always appreciated Manning because he was undrafted, worked hard for a few years in the minors, and finally made it to the big show. He was a scapegoat in Philly, but he wasn't nearly as bad as many folks made him out to be.

The main issue they had with him was pinching at inopportune times and he would usually make one highlight reel mistake during the game(fall down, get caught up ice, etc). Many times it wouldn't lead to anything for the other team, but he caught the wrath of the fans anyway. He is very well respected by his teammates, will stick up for everyone, works hard, and does the little things to help out. He chipped in 19 pts last year, which was the best of his three year NHL career.

I think he will fit in well in Chicago as long as he's not asked to do too much. Coach Hakstol in Philly often had him playing above his skill set, so I hope Q won't do the same. He should be good for 20-25 pts and play a decent physical game.

Completely agree.

People make too much of what side wings play on especially. As someone who has played wing at very low casual levels, there are benefits to both. Easier to get your shot off on the off wing, but much easier to pass using your forehand to anywhere on the ice when you play the wing side same as your dominant hand.
- hereismike1

And the only time you are truly locked in on one side of the ice is in the D-zone for breakouts. And even that shifts with man-man d-zone coverage and all the moving parts of NHL offenses with Dmen jumping up and so much rotating. I saw plenty of D-Cat 1 Timers on the LW and he was definitely on the LW/LD for the PP.


Justin, I appreciate your optimism, but with a healthy and improved Connor Murphy, this D was going to be a Bottom 3 unit in the NHL. Without Murphy....Jokiharju better be the real deal and Rutta/Gustafson/Keith will need to play much better...this team could be looking at a 25% win % without Murphy, Crawford, and potentially Seabrook. A 230lb 33years old man with an abdominal injury is NOT ideal...


I think this team is locked into the Top 5 next draft, which is what they need. Look at the drop off from #5 to #8 in the 2018 Draft. Getting into the Top 3 picks next summer would be glorious. That Russian Center looks like a Datsyukian stud!