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Sheng Peng
Joined: 04.21.2017

Sep 13 @ 2:00 AM ET
Sheng Peng: Can VGK Afford Both Erik Karlsson & Bobby Ryan?
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Sep 13 @ 3:08 AM ET
Give us Clarkson contract.... ALSO Karlsson should be good with 11m - Nevada is tax free no?

I could get on board with the Golden Knights if Karlsson goes there.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 13 @ 8:23 AM ET
I really hope Ottawa doesn't Melnyk this up and force them to take the Ryan Contract.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Sep 13 @ 8:26 AM ET
On of the best bloggers on HB, nice analysis man!
kaptaan
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.29.2010

Sep 13 @ 8:30 AM ET
Why not trade:
To Vegas
EK
Ryan

To Ottawa
Theodore
Tuch
Clarkson
Eakin
Brannstrom
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 13 @ 8:33 AM ET
Why not trade:
To Vegas
EK
Ryan

To Ottawa
Theodore
Tuch
Clarkson
Eakin
Brannstrom

- kaptaan

yeeeesh
riceroni
Ottawa Senators
Location: e5, ON
Joined: 07.29.2009

Sep 13 @ 8:33 AM ET
I think a deal can be something like

To VGN:
- Karlsson
- Smith
- 3rd 2020

To Ottawa:
- Glass, Theodore
- 1st 2019, 2nd 2021
- Clarkson
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 13 @ 9:04 AM ET
I think a deal can be something like

To VGN:
- Karlsson
- Smith
- 3rd 2020

To Ottawa:
- Glass, Theodore
- 1st 2019, 2nd 2021
- Clarkson

- riceroni

double yeeeeesh
riceroni
Ottawa Senators
Location: e5, ON
Joined: 07.29.2009

Sep 13 @ 9:08 AM ET
double yeeeeesh
- YuenglingJagr

You're right...

To Ottawa: Clarkson
To Vegas: karlsson

more fair?
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Sep 13 @ 9:23 AM ET
No team trading for Ek should take ryans contract back, that's almost 20 million in two players, once EK signs an extension for about 11-12 mill.
If I was a GM and Ottawa wants to include the ryan contract I am offering pennies on the dollar for EK, as I could simply try and sing him when he hits UFA. If Ottawa is going to try and move ryans contract with any EK trade then the return will be quite diminished.
Its not like Ottawa will be in cap trouble in the near furture keep ryan and get as much as you can for one of the best dmen in the league.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Sep 13 @ 9:24 AM ET
Honestly, the report said coming out of the team are that they are a close group. They went very well last season & hopefully can sustain those results.

Would getting both those guys really benifit the organisation? I truly think that getting Karlsson or both players will have a negative affect on the group. They are a bunch of hard working players giving it their all. Having a superstar enter the Frey will change that dynamic & my thoughts are for the worse not better. Just my opinion.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Sep 13 @ 9:33 AM ET
Having a superstar enter the Frey will change that dynamic & my thoughts are for the worse not better.
- Aussiepenguin


Interesting angle of view, but with Karlsson's skill and class (as seen in the handshake-line in '17), i'm pretty sure he is welcomed in every dressing-room else than where Hoffman's wife currently stands in front.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 13 @ 9:35 AM ET
These proposals.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Sep 13 @ 9:37 AM ET
Interesting angle of view, but with Karlsson's skill and class (as seen in the handshake-line in '17), i'm pretty sure he is welcomed in every dressing-room else than where Hoffman's wife currently stands in front.
- VeryModernMan


Team dynamic is often affected by external forces. Obviously everyone knows about the issues they've (Karlssons), had, & quite possibly may impact with the females already settled into the group. Jealousy is a female dog & could bring things undone. It's impossible for everyone to get along all the time. It's just 1 aspect, there are others for why I think that way.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Sep 13 @ 9:42 AM ET
Team dynamic is often affected by external forces. Obviously everyone knows about the issues they've (Karlssons), had, & quite possibly may impact with the females already settled into the group. Jealousy is a female dog & could bring things undone. It's impossible for everyone to get along all the time. It's just 1 aspect, there are others for why I think that way.
- Aussiepenguin


You summarized this pretty perfectly, most likely Karlsson and Hoffman would get a long pretty well, weren't it for their always-to-be-entertained "better halves".
agame99
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 06.29.2018

Sep 13 @ 10:08 AM ET
Just some thoughts: As a Vegas local, I can tell you that Glass is going no where. The organization loves that guy and are projecting him to be a franchise player. I think any deal like this would have to be contingent on EK signing a contract and Ottawa retaining half of Ryan’s salary and cap hit. Vegas isn’t worries about a future contract for Gusev because they don’t even know if he will come to the NHL. Also, the Knights like Schmidt and so do fans, but I don’t think moving him or letting him walk is out of the question.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Steve Yzerman is coming home to be the GM of the Wings. , TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Sep 13 @ 11:20 AM ET
Why not trade:
To Vegas
EK
Ryan

To Ottawa
Theodore
Tuch
Clarkson
Eakin
Brannstrom

- kaptaan

RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Steve Yzerman is coming home to be the GM of the Wings. , TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Sep 13 @ 11:20 AM ET
I think a deal can be something like

To VGN:
- Karlsson
- Smith
- 3rd 2020

To Ottawa:
- Glass, Theodore
- 1st 2019, 2nd 2021
- Clarkson

- riceroni

Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: An attempt to educate are failing youth on reality..., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Sep 13 @ 11:37 AM ET
Just some thoughts: As a Vegas local, I can tell you that Glass is going no where. The organization loves that guy and are projecting him to be a franchise player. I think any deal like this would have to be contingent on EK signing a contract and Ottawa retaining half of Ryan’s salary and cap hit. Vegas isn’t worries about a future contract for Gusev because they don’t even know if he will come to the NHL. Also, the Knights like Schmidt and so do fans, but I don’t think moving him or letting him walk is out of the question.
- agame99


Ok, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Vegas looks to be in "win now" mode with the trade of Suzuki, Tatar, and a pick for Patches. Glass is also a few years away, which doesn't seem to fit in with the "win now" signals McPhee is sending.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 13 @ 11:41 AM ET
Ok, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Vegas looks to be in "win now" mode with the trade of Suzuki, Tatar, and a pick for Patches. Glass is also a few years away, which doesn't seem to fit in with the "win now" signals McPhee is sending.
- Only_A_Ladd

Glass isn't getting traded
murTor
Joined: 07.01.2012

Sep 13 @ 11:54 AM ET
If ottawa retained some of ryans salary, would it be plausible for Vegas to buy Ryan out like Brooks Orpik situation?
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Sep 13 @ 11:57 AM ET
If ottawa retained some of ryans salary, would it be plausible for Vegas to buy Ryan out like Brooks Orpik situation?
- murTor


With 50% retained, Bobby Ryan is actually a pretty acceptable player, especially as he may refind some of his youth with VGK, which are a little cooler than the Melnyk-crew.
NoRagrets
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: That’s my credo! Houston, TX
Joined: 09.10.2018

Sep 13 @ 12:10 PM ET
Give us Clarkson contract.... ALSO Karlsson should be good with 11m - Nevada is tax free no?

I could get on board with the Golden Knights if Karlsson goes there.

- AlfieisKing

If you ever became a Knights fan I’d have to stop cheering for them...