Very small and light on the back end. Goalies will have to play like hextall and Smith. Moynihan and entwistle bring some nasty at forward.
- vandymeer23

Very small and light on the back end. Goalies will have to play like hextall and Smith. Moynihan and entwistle bring some nasty at forward.
- vandymeer23

I think highmore is a career minor leaguer. He can be a scorer in the a but not the NHL. Fortin had a mediocre year in the a last year ejdsell had a good playoff but didn't show anything up here except he's slow. I would give Luke Johnson a look before these three.
- vandymeer23

I'm not ready to write off Highmore, Ejdsell or Fortin just yet but they're path to the NHL won't be easy. I know he's a bit of a fan favourite here but I'm not sold on Hayden, hopefully I am wrong.

If the team is looking for a bottom 6 defensive forward then Johnson should get a shot. He has a really solid season and he was singled out (is a positive way) by Colliton for making a significant jump in his development. Johnson would be my dark horse candidate to make the team.

Right? Because everyone knows that if we had a real coach (not some future hall of famer), and a real GM (not some papas boy accountant) that we’d still be a contender.

Instead we have an aging core with bloated contracts given to players for such mundane achievements as winning Stanley Cups and Conn Smythe trophies.

Now because we’ve been drafting in the bottom quarter of the draft for a decade, we don’t even have top 5 farm system...losers.

Nice going Stan & Q. Hopefully this is the last season we have to put up with your shenanigans.
- Ogilthorpe2

I guess winning cups means you can't be critical and it excuses all behaviour including bloated NMC contracts, vets who mail it in, PK that is atrocious, bad trades, two first round exits and a dead last placing last year.

Time to lay off the kool aid and be realistic. Hawks have done good, very very good actually but that was a while ago.

Unfortunately this is what have you done for me lately business and not everything is pie in the sky.

Some people seem to forget that...right captain obvious.

I guess winning cups means you can't be critical and it excuses all behaviour including bloated NMC contracts, vets who mail it in, PK that is atrocious, bad trades, two first round exits and a dead last placing last year.

Time to lay off the kool aid and be realistic. Hawks have done good, very very good actually but that was a while ago.

Unfortunately this is what have you done for me lately business and not everything is pie in the sky.

Some people seem to forget that...right captain obvious.
- Hawkster

I think highmore is a career minor leaguer. He can be a scorer in the a but not the NHL. Fortin had a mediocre year in the a last year ejdsell had a good playoff but didn't show anything up here except he's slow. I would give Luke Johnson a look before these three.
- vandymeer23

It was Highmore's first pro season and he only got some games in the NHL at the end when it was dragging, so idk how you can say he's a career minor leaguer at 22. And Fortin was recovering from injury most of last year and has shown flashes of being great, esp with his speed, so maybe we don't write off a 21 year old. Even Edjsell, who I'm lower on because of his skating, has great hands and could potentially be useful.

Like don't hold your breath on any of them but people really need to be patient on some of the young guys, some of whom have little to no sample size from which to gather a true assessment.

Next off season i would like the hawks to make a big push Tyler Seguin his contract probably in 10 million but he would your 1st line center towes 2nd line center plus kruger rutta money comes off the books plus the hossa money its a pipedream Dallas would be fools not to extend him but maybe he wants to a big market. He is young to so it fit in with the rebuild.
- Scott1977

Seguin should get Tavares money.

Seguin should get Tavares money.
- L_B_R

Agree would pursue him if you were in charge of the hawks and give seguin the money.

[quote=Scott1977]Agree would you pursue him if you were in charge of the hawks and give seguin the money 10 -12 million per year

- DarthKane

👍👍👍👍

- DarthKane

👍👍👍👍 Absolutely,SB would crapped his pants if his team played anywhere remotely like that

I guess winning cups means you can't be critical and it excuses all behaviour including bloated NMC contracts, vets who mail it in, PK that is atrocious, bad trades, two first round exits and a dead last placing last year.

Time to lay off the kool aid and be realistic. Hawks have done good, very very good actually but that was a while ago.

Unfortunately this is what have you done for me lately business and not everything is pie in the sky.

Some people seem to forget that...right captain obvious.
- Hawkster

Everyone knew this was coming because of the cost of winning and were fine with it. So quit your constant female doging captain obvious.

- DarthKane

that would get him 20 games today and charged with felony assault....that guy was psycho...

👍👍👍👍 Absolutely,SB would crapped his pants if his team played anywhere remotely like that
- wonthecup10

you call assault with a deadly weapon..."playing"

Highmore is terrible

AHL for life

Carry on........ 88 luvers

Highmore is terrible

AHL for life

Carry on........ 88 luvers
- Goalie-33

- Ogilthorpe2

How Can I Miss You When You Won’t Go Away -

Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks

I guess winning cups means you can't be critical and it excuses all behaviour including bloated NMC contracts, vets who mail it in, PK that is atrocious, bad trades, two first round exits and a dead last placing last year.

Time to lay off the kool aid and be realistic. Hawks have done good, very very good actually but that was a while ago.

Unfortunately this is what have you done for me lately business and not everything is pie in the sky.

Some people seem to forget that...right captain obvious.
- Hawkster

The point is...

That this was inevitable. They had a great run..arguably the best of anyone in the salary cap era. That’s the rub, there’s a salary cap now. This makes it virtually impossible to keep a team at an elite level for a sustained period. There will not be another run of playoff appearances like the Red Wings strung together ever again.

This is not a what have you done fore me lately team, this is a 3 time Cup Champion. The management team that guided this team through the best period in team history deserves the chance to attempt to retool on the fly. Does the core have enough left to make another serious run? Maybe, maybe not, but the best shot this team has at another cup in the near future is for the core to bounce back, and some youngsters to make great strides forward.

If Toews bounces back even a little bit, Saad regresses to his career average shooting %, and the goaltending can be somewhere near average, then this is likely a playoff team. If some of the kids (Schmaltz, Debrincat, etc) take another step forward...who knows.

I’m not saying this team is a likely contender, but I don’t think a major bounce back season is out of the realm of possibility either.

There’s an argument to be made that in the long run they may be better off finishing last again and getting into the lottery level of first round picks...but I’m not there yet. I don’t think Kane, Toews, Keith, or Seabrook are likely going anywhere. They earned every penny they make, and every bit of stability that a NTC provides them, so the best we can hope for is that they are still able to be meaningful contributors to the next Stanley Cup Contending team.

I honestly feel this team is going to surprise a lot of people this year.

I honestly feel this team is going to surprise a lot of people this year.
- Ogilthorpe2

I feel similarly. My gut is that the Hawks will either surprise to bounce back in a huge way or be just as bad if not worse than last season. As someone who tends to be cautiously optimistic, I am going with the former. At least that's what the Kool Aid juice box said as I drank from it.

In all seriousness, the Hawks are gradually starting to trend in a better direction and it starts with rebuilding the prospect pipeline. I think the team will truly take off in 1-2 years but I'm also excited to see what the coming season has in store.

that would get him 20 games today and charged with felony assault....that guy was psycho...
- bogiedoc

I doubt it would get felony assault. He went below the waste unlike mcsorley

I’ll be curious to see which (if any) forwards get a PTO with the Hawks. Possible candidates (which I am in no way endorsing):

- Logan Shaw
- Nick Shore
- Tomas Jurco (yes, Jurco)
- Alex Chiasson

The point is...

That this was inevitable. They had a great run..arguably the best of anyone in the salary cap era. That’s the rub, there’s a salary cap now. This makes it virtually impossible to keep a team at an elite level for a sustained period. There will not be another run of playoff appearances like the Red Wings strung together ever again.

This is not a what have you done fore me lately team, this is a 3 time Cup Champion. The management team that guided this team through the best period in team history deserves the chance to attempt to retool on the fly. Does the core have enough left to make another serious run? Maybe, maybe not, but the best shot this team has at another cup in the near future is for the core to bounce back, and some youngsters to make great strides forward.

If Toews bounces back even a little bit, Saad regresses to his career average shooting %, and the goaltending can be somewhere near average, then this is likely a playoff team. If some of the kids (Schmaltz, Debrincat, etc) take another step forward...who knows.

I’m not saying this team is a likely contender, but I don’t think a major bounce back season is out of the realm of possibility either.

There’s an argument to be made that in the long run they may be better off finishing last again and getting into the lottery level of first round picks...but I’m not there yet. I don’t think Kane, Toews, Keith, or Seabrook are likely going anywhere. They earned every penny they make, and every bit of stability that a NTC provides them, so the best we can hope for is that they are still able to be meaningful contributors to the next Stanley Cup Contending team.

I honestly feel this team is going to surprise a lot of people this year.
- Ogilthorpe2

I’d be surprised if the 18/19 Hawks finish ahead of the Coyotes in the standings this year. I can’t identify a worse defense core than the Hawks in the entire 31 team NHL. Crawford, if he even plays, is 34 and hasn’t faced shots in how long? With this D Group Cam Ward will be lucky to have a 900 save %

I’ll be curious to see which (if any) forwards get a PTO with the Hawks. Possible candidates (which I am in no way endorsing):

- Logan Shaw
- Nick Shore
- Tomas Jurco (yes, Jurco)
- Alex Chiasson
- DarthKane

Chiasson and Shore interest me to check out on a PTO at the very least.

They are also both righties... Hawks only have Schmaltz, Debrincat and Hayden up front after losing Hartman, Hino, Sharp and Wingels.

Not the end of the world if they only have 3 but can limit a roster / who Kane plays with (he likes tonhave at least 1 righty on his line).

The point is...

That this was inevitable. They had a great run..arguably the best of anyone in the salary cap era. That’s the rub, there’s a salary cap now. This makes it virtually impossible to keep a team at an elite level for a sustained period. There will not be another run of playoff appearances like the Red Wings strung together ever again.

This is not a what have you done fore me lately team, this is a 3 time Cup Champion. The management team that guided this team through the best period in team history deserves the chance to attempt to retool on the fly. Does the core have enough left to make another serious run? Maybe, maybe not, but the best shot this team has at another cup in the near future is for the core to bounce back, and some youngsters to make great strides forward.

If Toews bounces back even a little bit, Saad regresses to his career average shooting %, and the goaltending can be somewhere near average, then this is likely a playoff team. If some of the kids (Schmaltz, Debrincat, etc) take another step forward...who knows.

I’m not saying this team is a likely contender, but I don’t think a major bounce back season is out of the realm of possibility either.

There’s an argument to be made that in the long run they may be better off finishing last again and getting into the lottery level of first round picks...but I’m not there yet. I don’t think Kane, Toews, Keith, or Seabrook are likely going anywhere. They earned every penny they make, and every bit of stability that a NTC provides them, so the best we can hope for is that they are still able to be meaningful contributors to the next Stanley Cup Contending team.

I honestly feel this team is going to surprise a lot of people this year.
- Ogilthorpe2

Couldn't agree more. If you would have asked me 10 years ago if I would take three Stanley Cups plus two additional Western Conference finals appearances but with the caveat that after that run there will be an awkward period where the Hawks get thumped while they retool, I would have emphatically said YES!

Let’s see how the kids develop. Some of it will be painful, some of it will be fun. But the kids have the benefit of a coaching staff, management group, and leadership core that have been to the mountain top and back THREE TIMES!

Chiasson and Shore interest me to check out on a PTO at the very least.

They are also both righties... Hawks only have Schmaltz, Debrincat and Hayden up front after losing Hartman, Hino, Sharp and Wingels.

Not the end of the world if they only have 3 but can limit a roster / who Kane plays with (he likes tonhave at least 1 righty on his line).
- Justin Lowe

I wouldn't expect any of the PTOs to make the team, maybe Davidson if the Hawks want both Hillman and Jokiharju to start in Rockford. I agree with Hawks' right handed shot situations, that makes it more realistic that they could give Luke Johnson a look in the bottom 6.