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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Aug 20 @ 11:48 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Hindsight drafting: 2009 Hindsight drafting: 2009
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 20 @ 11:58 AM ET
Hey RW!

How about some blogs about prospects?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 11:58 AM ET
Nice list, but I'd take Schenn off. What you just described from Evander Kane is the same for Schenn. Not saying he's a bad player, but I'd put Kane a notch above him.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 20 @ 12:04 PM ET
Nice list, but I'd take Schenn off. What you just described from Evander Kane is the same for Schenn. Not saying he's a bad player, but I'd put Kane a notch above him.
- jmatchett383


Schenn was almost always involved physically and was never a selfish player even when not scoring. Never seemed to have a bad demeanor on the ice as well, haven't watched Kane as closely but that seems to be the book on him at times. Schenn is a more complete player than Kane and has been more durable throughout his career. Flyers fans acted like we wouldn't need him or miss him, all he did was go and put up 70 points with the Blues, so save the Flyers hater bias in regards to Schenn.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 12:08 PM ET
Schenn was almost always involved physically and was never a selfish player even when not scoring. Never seemed to have a bad demeanor on the ice as well, haven't watched Kane as closely but that seems to be the book on him at times. Schenn is a more complete player than Kane and has been more durable throughout his career. Flyers fans acted like we wouldn't need him or miss him, all he did was go and put up 70 points with the Blues, so save the Flyers hater bias in regards to Schenn.
- ClaudeFather


Again, I'm not saying he's a bad player. He's a good player. While you're right about durability, I think Kane offers more. Yes, Schenn hits, and sometimes he actually stays on his feet when he does it. Kane can hit too, harder, and is a better skater and passer. I think he has a big year this year with SJ.

FFS, if you're a Flyers fan who isn't bowing down to Brayden Schenn as a top-10 center, people just assume you're a hater. Dude's very good, not great.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 20 @ 12:12 PM ET
Again, I'm not saying he's a bad player. He's a good player. While you're right about durability, I think Kane offers more. Yes, Schenn hits, and sometimes he actually stays on his feet when he does it. Kane can hit too, harder, and is a better skater and passer. I think he has a big year this year with SJ.
- jmatchett383


Come on man, Evander Kane has cracked 50 points twice, this past year and in 2012. He is inconsistent and often injured. Schenn was a force for the Blues this past year, there's a reason why Kane went for a conditional first when he was traded when people seemingly below his abilities fetched more.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
Come on man, Evander Kane has cracked 50 points twice, this past year and in 2012. He is inconsistent and often injured. Schenn was a force for the Blues this past year, there's a reason why Kane went for a conditional first when he was traded when people seemingly below his abilities fetched more.
- ClaudeFather


Well then we're going to disagree.
Mino42
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philipsburg, PA
Joined: 08.10.2015

Aug 20 @ 12:58 PM ET
I know some Flyers fans aren't that high on Schenn but I think he is a great player. I would take him over Kane in a heartbeat especially after last season. Even taking away all of Kane's off-ice nonsense he still isn't better IMO. At 7Mil a year he is WAY overpaid for top line forward that hasn't broken 60 points in a season.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 20 @ 12:59 PM ET
Hey RW!

How about some blogs about prospects?

- Rinosaur

They all suck. Done
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 20 @ 1:19 PM ET
I like these lists - good job!

I’d have Ekholm on there somewhere, and Kadri / O’Reilly belong ahead of Hoffman, but overall it’s pretty bang on

DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 20 @ 1:22 PM ET
That 2009 Avs draft class

Which has turned now into Zadorov, Compher, AJ Greer, Cam Morrison, Denis Smirnov, Sam Girard, Shane Bowers, Vlad Kamanev, Justus Annunen, Danilla Zhuravlyov ,2019 Otts 1st, 2019 Otts 3rd + Barrie still kicking around
James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

Aug 20 @ 1:30 PM ET

Interesting read for sure, but I would have Kadri ahead of Duchene. In fact I'd have Ellis and Schenn ahead too.

Top Three would be Tavares, Hedman, O'Reilly.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 20 @ 1:42 PM ET
decent list.

I'd personally have RoR and Kadri ahead of Hoffman.

the guy is a hell of a sniper, but all he is is speed and a good shot. he's not a good playmaker, is invisible in the defensive zone, and lacks consistency.

kadri and RoR are both pretty complete players.....they also score more goals than a guy who's just a goal scorer.

Hoffman should definitely be in the top 10, but I don't think ahead of those guys.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 20 @ 2:39 PM ET
Interesting read for sure, but I would have Kadri ahead of Duchene. In fact I'd have Ellis and Schenn ahead too.

Top Three would be Tavares, Hedman, O'Reilly.

- james_tanner1


Does the fact that ROR cant score 5v5 hurt his rankings? Tell me your takes my Best Friend
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 20 @ 5:25 PM ET
They all suck. Done
- Feds91Stammer

Bang on material. Hopefully other than Hallander. That's all I wanna see in prospect camp.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 20 @ 5:59 PM ET
They all suck. Done
- Feds91Stammer


I was talking about the Pens’ prospects, not the Wings’... burn!
nhlprospectreport
Joined: 08.20.2018

Aug 20 @ 6:05 PM ET
nhlprospectreport.ca
Leafs66
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 08.01.2014

Aug 20 @ 6:16 PM ET
I don't like your list ...Tavares step on the ice at age 18 and was a solid player year 1 and became a stud in year 2. It took Hedman almost 5yrs before he finally put up decents numbers
I will even go as far to say OEL is better...OEL has 2 20+goal season on the worst team we have seen since the Whalers...Hedman is a stud NOW but you switch Hedman with OEL and hands down OEL has better numbers in both situations.
and Hoffman better than Kadri??? Hoffman got traded for a 2nd & 3rd this year ...30 teams wouldn't pay a 1st for him...Kadri would land a 1st
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 20 @ 6:45 PM ET
nhlprospectreport.ca
- nhlprospectreport


That site is missing a team
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 20 @ 7:05 PM ET
I don't like your list ...Tavares step on the ice at age 18 and was a solid player year 1 and became a stud in year 2. It took Hedman almost 5yrs before he finally put up decents numbers
I will even go as far to say OEL is better...OEL has 2 20+goal season on the worst team we have seen since the Whalers...Hedman is a stud NOW but you switch Hedman with OEL and hands down OEL has better numbers in both situations.
and Hoffman better than Kadri??? Hoffman got traded for a 2nd & 3rd this year ...30 teams wouldn't pay a 1st for him...Kadri would land a 1st

- Leafs66


OEL is better than Hedman???? LOL

Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Aug 20 @ 8:56 PM ET
Hedman is overrated. Knocked off the puck like the little female dog he is. I have never went into watching a Pens Tampa game with Victor Hedman on my mind.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 21 @ 9:13 AM ET
I don't like your list ...Tavares step on the ice at age 18 and was a solid player year 1 and became a stud in year 2. It took Hedman almost 5yrs before he finally put up decents numbers
I will even go as far to say OEL is better...OEL has 2 20+goal season on the worst team we have seen since the Whalers...Hedman is a stud NOW but you switch Hedman with OEL and hands down OEL has better numbers in both situations.
and Hoffman better than Kadri??? Hoffman got traded for a 2nd & 3rd this year ...30 teams wouldn't pay a 1st for him...Kadri would land a 1st

- Leafs66


Tanner alt???
Thrill81
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CA
Joined: 07.31.2018

Aug 21 @ 9:28 AM ET
I don't like your list ...Tavares step on the ice at age 18 and was a solid player year 1 and became a stud in year 2. It took Hedman almost 5yrs before he finally put up decents numbers
I will even go as far to say OEL is better...OEL has 2 20+goal season on the worst team we have seen since the Whalers...Hedman is a stud NOW but you switch Hedman with OEL and hands down OEL has better numbers in both situations.
and Hoffman better than Kadri??? Hoffman got traded for a 2nd & 3rd this year ...30 teams wouldn't pay a 1st for him...Kadri would land a 1st

- Leafs66


I'm gonna disagree with you on the Hedman one. Hedman has put up 72 points in the past. OEL is certainly great, but Oel at 3 and Hedman at 1 isn't a huge gap to be honest. It's not like OEL was at like 10. Hedman I think is also more solid defensively. I will agree I'd rather have Kadri than Hoffman if I want the 30 goals, but Hoffman's had more points the last 3 seasons. Also it's the same as your OEL vs Hedman argument, Kadri gets to be the 3c behind some amazing players. Hofmann's linemates have obviously been decent too, but overall, he plays in Ottawa. Quality of team leaves a lot to be desired for him. I think his low price has more to do with his off ice issues.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 21 @ 9:30 AM ET
I was talking about the Pens’ prospects, not the Wings’... burn!
- Rinosaur

My prospects are all I have

Zadina