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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 10 @ 7:14 PM ET
2019 draft list articles.

nice.....

- classic321

Who are you nominating for unable to do a single pull up?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 10 @ 7:15 PM ET
Pretty sure Woo will bring people to the arena.
- manvanfan

It was in reference to Sasha Cohens amazing new show. Woo is a fun prospect
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 10 @ 7:17 PM ET
The league is about scoring, even 4th liners have to score. Brendan Gaunce has 12 points in 114 games. Unless a miracle happens and Gaunce is using Tanev's shooting coach or as usual Van has about 20 injuries before the start of the season. I really see no scenario that doesn't involve Gaunce going on waivers. Beagle is 30 something years old and mainly plays defence. He had 22 points last season.
- manvanfan


So when Beagle was a rookie/young player scoring didn’t matter? How many of Beagles 22 points were primary points last year? You think his 7 goals will be difficult for the Caps to replace? He isn’t prolific by 4th line standards and as I said, I think he will actually be playing 3rd line minutes, so even worse.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 10 @ 7:18 PM ET
Usually I am just an idiot, but today I thought I should be a bit more serious while having discussions on the hockeybuzz...plus I have been daydrinking😁
- Reubenkincade

My neighbour just poured me a Margarita that almost dropped me to my knees.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 10 @ 7:19 PM ET
I think analytics paints a picture that just isn't there.
- manvanfan


I am not saying they are be all end all just that portions of some analytics are useful.
It is like plus minus as a stat, sometimes they don't look at poor line changes, which leads to a goal, or the blown/missed coverage by an indivdual.
I have been following stats for over 40 years and find they are all subjective, but can also be useful.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 10 @ 7:20 PM ET
My neighbour just poured me a Margarita that almost dropped me to my knees.
- Marwood


Nice. Hope the morning hangover isn't too painful. Lol
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Aug 10 @ 7:21 PM ET
Who are you nominating for unable to do a single pull up?
- manvanfan



Probably some kid out of the OHL.

This is their weakest prospect pool in a long time.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 10 @ 7:21 PM ET
Oh yeah, that's right, it was Fedorov... though Shirokov is the same, both entitled useless Russians that weren't good enough for the NHL.
- DariusKnight


You know that being Russian has nothing to do with that right? The ratio is probably 100:1 for useless entitled Canadians who wash out of pro hockey...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 10 @ 7:26 PM ET
So when Beagle was a rookie/young player scoring didn’t matter? How many of Beagles 22 points were primary points last year? You think his 7 goals will be difficult for the Caps to replace? He isn’t prolific by 4th line standards and as I said, I think he will actually be playing 3rd line minutes, so even worse.
- 1970vintage



4 more years , hang in there
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 10 @ 7:30 PM ET
You know that being Russian has nothing to do with that right? The ratio is probably 100:1 for useless entitled Canadians who wash out of pro hockey...
- 1970vintage


Funny how many Russians are goal sucks & how few do the dirty work. More Datsyuk’s but for every one of him there is 100 passengers.

The word that fits is prima donna...
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 10 @ 7:30 PM ET
4 more years , hang in there
- VANTEL


I have the mental fortitude to ride this home
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 10 @ 7:34 PM ET
Funny how many Russians are goal sucks & how few do the dirty work. More Datsyuk’s but for every one of him there is 100 passengers.

The word that fits is prima donna...

- Nighthawk


I’ll be honest with you here, you don’t know poop from a hole in the ground. Have you been to Russia, do you know how hard the people there have to work to get where they are? It isn’t about being Russian, or Canadian or Swedish, it’s about the individuals. There are way more Canadian kids involved in every level of youth and up hockey, and only the very best of them get a sniff of professional hockey, and then only the best of the best have careers in the NHL. For every Horvat there are 100 Shinkaruks. It has nothing to do with birth certificates.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 10 @ 7:35 PM ET
I have the mental fortitude to ride this home
- 1970vintage

You're a better man than most
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 10 @ 7:39 PM ET
You're a better man than most
- LeftCoaster


Once I latch onto something it’s tough to get me off. Thank goodness for Beagle or I’d still be going on about Sutter...
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 10 @ 7:40 PM ET
Goldobin Horvat Boeser
Baertschi Pettersson Eriksson
Roussel Sutter Virtanen
Schaller Beagle Granlund
Gagner

Edler Gudbranson
Hutton Tanev
MDZ Stecher
Pouliot

It's all about the learning to tank.

- manvanfan

BAE Horvat Boeser
EP Gagner Eriksson
Roussel Sutter Virtanen
Schaller Beagle Granlund
Goldy

Edler Stecher
EG Tanev
MDZ Hutton
Pouliot

Your setup is very similar to what I expect to see, but I could see a different route.

I see them going back to some of the old line combos. It's been said by management many time EP will start on the wing. As bad as Gagner is I see that being the second line and getting a lot of o-zone starts, at least until they have to shake things up. It's a tanky lineup no matter how you slice it.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 10 @ 7:41 PM ET
I've watched him play and he's really average.

My question was poorly worded. I know why he's not very good but I don't understand how the nerds think that the CF stat is somehow accurate as to what actually happens on ice. I mean Zone starts are a good stat but Corsi really tells you nothing that happens in the game.

- manvanfan

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 10 @ 7:41 PM ET
4 more years , hang in there
- VANTEL

With a little lotto luck, this is going to be a very fun team to watch next year.
Tigersmyle
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 03.17.2017

Aug 10 @ 7:41 PM ET
I am not going to get the third jersey thing going again but saw this on a site and thought it was interesting, well sort of http://forum.canucks.com/...id-team1040-recap/?page=6
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 10 @ 7:42 PM ET
Once I latch onto something it’s tough to get me off. Thank goodness for Beagle or I’d still be going on about Sutter...
- 1970vintage

so many things to complain about! Lots of good stuff too though.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 10 @ 7:45 PM ET
Nice. Hope the morning hangover isn't too painful. Lol
- Reubenkincade

After 1 or 2 I switch to vodka & soda. No hangovers.
Tigersmyle
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 03.17.2017

Aug 10 @ 7:48 PM ET
Utica seems to be getting awfully bloated with career AHL ers . Wonder if this is going to bump some prospects down the way of Kalamazoo.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 10 @ 7:48 PM ET
I am not going to get the third jersey thing going again but saw this on a site and thought it was interesting, well sort of http://forum.canucks.com/...id-team1040-recap/?page=6
- Tigersmyle

That V with the current colour scheme looks ok.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 10 @ 7:51 PM ET
That V with the current colour scheme looks ok.
- LeftCoaster

They are all putrid.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 10 @ 7:53 PM ET
They are all putrid.
- Marwood

Yeah I'm a fan of the current colours with the modified stink n rink but some are just less hideous than others.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 10 @ 7:55 PM ET
That V with the current colour scheme looks ok.
- LeftCoaster



I prefer the skate and Teal
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