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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Aug 10 @ 11:44 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Penguins aren't dead last in prospect rankings anymore Penguins aren't dead last in prospect rankings anymore
Thrill81
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CA
Joined: 07.31.2018

Aug 10 @ 12:01 PM ET
Makes sense, but does Jake Geuntzel really count as a prospect? He's a lock for the starting line up 1st line. Although if it's players under 23, all is fair.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 10 @ 12:06 PM ET
I wish I knew anything about these guys outside of Sprong and Jarry.

Is Hallander the guy they drafted this year?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 10 @ 12:07 PM ET
Makes sense, but does Jake Geuntzel really count as a prospect? He's a lock for the starting line up 1st line. Although if it's players under 23, all is fair.
- Thrill81


IMO a prospect is player with less than a full season under his belt and/or not yet a full time player.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: 3 more than philly, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Aug 10 @ 12:17 PM ET
What I fear is that JR will trade most of them along with 1st round picks at the deadline.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Aug 10 @ 12:19 PM ET
He doesn't include Guentzal as a prospect, he talks in depth about all prospects in the system and then at the end of the article he lists the top players under 23, so that's why he is on the list
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: 3 more than philly, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Aug 10 @ 12:21 PM ET
I wish I knew anything about these guys outside of Sprong and Jarry.

Is Hallander the guy they drafted this year?

- Rinosaur


Yes
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 10 @ 12:21 PM ET
I wish I knew anything about these guys outside of Sprong and Jarry.

Is Hallander the guy they drafted this year?

- Rinosaur

Yes and he was an absolute steal.
Thrill81
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CA
Joined: 07.31.2018

Aug 10 @ 12:28 PM ET
IMO a prospect is player with less than a full season under his belt and/or not yet a full time player.
- Rinosaur


I see it that way too. I assume Edmonton gets McDavid in their "prospect" list too then. Toronto is probably stacked with Matthews, Marner, and Nylander.
Thrill81
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CA
Joined: 07.31.2018

Aug 10 @ 12:30 PM ET
Yes and he was an absolute steal.
- Feds91Stammer


I don't know anything about prospects but he was kinda compared to Hornqvist right?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 10 @ 1:07 PM ET
Yes and he was an absolute steal.
- Feds91Stammer


Yeah, I remember people saying that now.
Mino42
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philipsburg, PA
Joined: 08.10.2015

Aug 10 @ 1:13 PM ET
Yes and he was an absolute steal.
- Feds91Stammer

From everything I read I'm very impressed with him and wonder why he was still there for the Pens to move up and grab.
Mino42
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philipsburg, PA
Joined: 08.10.2015

Aug 10 @ 1:21 PM ET
I don't know anything about prospects but he was kinda compared to Hornqvist right?
- Thrill81

No he sounds like a Matt Cullen type with his 2-way game. I think he will top out as a bottom 6 type guy with speed. Elite prospects says: Two-way forward with a strong skating ability. Works hard and forechecks and backchecks impressively. Shoots and passes the puck equally well. Smart in all three zones and a good team player.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 10 @ 1:29 PM ET
From everything I read I'm very impressed with him and wonder why he was still there for the Pens to move up and grab.
- Mino42

Euro factor.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 10 @ 1:48 PM ET
Euro factor.
- Feds91Stammer


Must be why Kotkaniemi and Boqvist fell so far, too.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 10 @ 1:50 PM ET
No he sounds like a Matt Cullen type with his 2-way game. I think he will top out as a bottom 6 type guy with speed. Elite prospects says: Two-way forward with a strong skating ability. Works hard and forechecks and backchecks impressively. Shoots and passes the puck equally well. Smart in all three zones and a good team player.
- Mino42



Sounds like opening night material to me...
Thrill81
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CA
Joined: 07.31.2018

Aug 10 @ 2:52 PM ET
No he sounds like a Matt Cullen type with his 2-way game. I think he will top out as a bottom 6 type guy with speed. Elite prospects says: Two-way forward with a strong skating ability. Works hard and forechecks and backchecks impressively. Shoots and passes the puck equally well. Smart in all three zones and a good team player.
- Mino42


I like the sound of that. Strong skating is a must.
Thrill81
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CA
Joined: 07.31.2018

Aug 10 @ 2:53 PM ET
Must be why Kotkaniemi and Boqvist fell so far, too.
- jmatchett383


Fair point, but Kotkaniemi was drafted by Montreal. Anything Bergevin does can't be used as evidence, unless as evidence of how an incompetent gm can ruin a franchise.
Newgod77
Boston Bruins
Location: IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Aug 10 @ 4:59 PM ET
Corey Pronman. Lol
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Aug 10 @ 5:09 PM ET
I have no problem trading away every single one of them to get Sid Geno and Tanger another cup.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Aug 10 @ 5:14 PM ET
I have no problem trading away every single one of them to get Sid Geno and Tanger another cup.
- Grinder47


Exactly - or at least some non-important, as we're in win-now mode... we can collect prospects in 5 years, and in 10 make the top of those lists!

But actually GMJR is doing a pretty good job at this... everyone remember when Sundqvist was the next 4th-line-center for sure?
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 10 @ 6:07 PM ET
Sundqvist was the second coming of Jesus as I recall...
Thrill81
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CA
Joined: 07.31.2018

Aug 10 @ 6:53 PM ET
Exactly - or at least some non-important, as we're in win-now mode... we can collect prospects in 5 years, and in 10 make the top of those lists!

But actually GMJR is doing a pretty good job at this... everyone remember when Sundqvist was the next 4th-line-center for sure?

- VeryModernMan


Yeah the penguins don't need any big name prospects. If JR can pick up some sleepers picks, we just need a few to be good. If we can hit on 1 or 2 more jake guentzel type of players, we can prolong the championship roster till Sid and Geno are gone. We suck for a year or 2, get a center and a defense man preferably and we're right back in the game. Of course if we somehow find a pavel datsyuk like the redwings did in round 6 or 7, maybe we go on our own 25 year playoff streak? haha all speculation. This is such a best case scenario.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Aug 10 @ 10:34 PM ET
Jan Drozg is going to be good.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Aug 11 @ 4:51 AM ET
Well what is the relation to having the best prospect pool & winning Stanley? Is there any relative proof from having good prospects & winning the Cup?

The last real big deal I remember about prospects was the final year Babcock was at Detroit. That hasn't produced anything that resembles success. Are the Flyers taking that crown with their young guns coming through now? Let's see if that turns into a Cup. Or, just keep on keeping On JR, I really don't mind having lower numbers of prospects but winning.
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