They'll be fine cap wise. Franzen's nearly 4M comes off as LTIR. If Z doesn't end up on LTIR or his contract traded to Arizona, Nyquist is probably getting traded.
- Red001

I'm sorry do you believe that is how LTIR works?

It is NOT: Cap Space - LTIR = New Cap Space

It is: Cap Space + LTIR = New Adjusted Cap Ceiling

If a team does not go over the cap ceiling, LTIR still counts against the cap.

Right now Detroit's cap space is 0, not Salary Cap - Franzen (LTIR). Understand now?

Holland GM of the year, you read it first - here!

It’s amazing a terrible team has to circumvent the cap. Good job Detroit.

the most basic female dog in the nhl these days is making over a million dollars up to almost 4-5 million.

It’s amazing a terrible team has to circumvent the cap. Good job Detroit.
- Newgod77

lol wut

How the (frank) are the Wings in cap hell with that roster?

How the (frank) are the Wings in cap hell with that roster?
- Nucker101

when ur paying guys like Nielsen and Dekeyser 5 mill or more cap hit a season that begins to explain why.

How the (frank) are the Wings in cap hell with that roster?
- Nucker101

Insert Oprah Picture

“You get 5 million per, you get 5 million per, you get 5 million per, you get 5 million per”

That’s how

Dekeyser,Nielsen,Vanek,Ericsson = about 18mill in cap hits.

I'm sorry do you believe that is how LTIR works?

It is NOT: Cap Space - LTIR = New Cap Space

It is: Cap Space + LTIR = New Adjusted Cap Ceiling

If a team does not go over the cap ceiling, LTIR still counts against the cap.

Right now Detroit's cap space is 0, not Salary Cap - Franzen (LTIR). Understand now?
- Glak18

Zetterberg is currently on contract for around 6 million. Put him on LTIR and they have 6 million to exceed over the cap. I'm not 100% but isn't the Larkin contract around 6 million? Oh it is. Now I guess that'd mean by Zetterberg going on LTIR they could fit Larkin wouldn't it?

How the (frank) are the Wings in cap hell with that roster?
- Nucker101

2 Words..

Kenny Holland

2 Words..

Kenny Holland
- StargateSG1

I'm so sorry. If Holland wasn't a charity case for aging nhl players, the wings and penguins could have had a nice rivalry(Okay it's the penguins, we don't know nice, we just punch anything in our division). The redwings really were a dynasty in the truest sense of the word. It easily could have been kept going I think, but alas it didn't.

I'm so sorry. If Holland wasn't a charity case for aging nhl players, the wings and penguins could have had a nice rivalry(Okay it's the penguins, we don't know nice, we just punch anything in our division). The redwings really were a dynasty in the truest sense of the word. It easily could have been kept going I think, but alas it didn't.
- Thrill81

Well, we call it "The retirement home", some get AARP membership included with their contracts.

Zetterberg is currently on contract for around 6 million. Put him on LTIR and they have 6 million to exceed over the cap. I'm not 100% but isn't the Larkin contract around 6 million? Oh it is. Now I guess that'd mean by Zetterberg going on LTIR they could fit Larkin wouldn't it?
- Thrill81

You'd better watch out. You'll have fans of other teams demanding you forfeit a 1st round pick for putting a player on LTIR.

Leafs fans got it with Lupul. Luckily for you I'll let you kow the ramifications.



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Zetterberg is currently on contract for around 6 million. Put him on LTIR and they have 6 million to exceed over the cap. I'm not 100% but isn't the Larkin contract around 6 million? Oh it is. Now I guess that'd mean by Zetterberg going on LTIR they could fit Larkin wouldn't it?
- Thrill81

No, you have to be cap compliant for the season opener (including all players under contract) then you can move players to LTIR and use extra space equal to the value of their contracts on new/different players either signed at that point or acquired by trade

No, you have to be cap compliant for the season opener (including all players under contract) then you can move players to LTIR and use extra space equal to the value of their contracts on new/different players either signed at that point or acquired by trade
- RoloTahmasee

I actually didn't think of that. Although knowing the NHL, there's probably some loophole that's gonna cause the next lock out. Technically speaking LTIR is designed to replace players, and Larkin's cap hit essentially substitutes for Zetterberg's. I thought under the new rules LTIR was considered cap compliant but I guess I'm misinformed. I hope for Redwing fans Ken Holland knows what he's doing.

I thought under the new rules LTIR was considered cap compliant
- Thrill81

The Hossa-story, where the poor guy got a skin-illness just thinking about having to play for a poor 1Mio now, showed that LTIR is ready to be revised...

Zetterberg is currently on contract for around 6 million. Put him on LTIR and they have 6 million to exceed over the cap. I'm not 100% but isn't the Larkin contract around 6 million? Oh it is. Now I guess that'd mean by Zetterberg going on LTIR they could fit Larkin wouldn't it?
- Thrill81

Ok so what you are saying is you don't understand LTIR?

If Zetterberg goes on LTIR RIGHT NOW, Detroit is still in the same situation now with the cap space of 0. LTIR is not free cap space, when it is used the team receives an overage penalty.

I actually didn't think of that. Although knowing the NHL, there's probably some loophole that's gonna cause the next lock out. Technically speaking LTIR is designed to replace players, and Larkin's cap hit essentially substitutes for Zetterberg's. I thought under the new rules LTIR was considered cap compliant but I guess I'm misinformed. I hope for Redwing fans Ken Holland knows what he's doing.
- Thrill81

Not sure why everyone is bringing up Zetterberg going on LTIR and how that will solve the cap situation in Detroit. Zetterberg's cap hit would still count against and Detroit would still have 0 cap space and their adjusted ceiling would still be 3.2M over the cap.

Zetterberg would have to retire to clear space or Detroit would have to trade/dump salary of at least 3.2M+ to become cap compliant so they can make in-season moves.

Every team has their own financial department and it will be corrected by trading someone.

The Hossa-story, where the poor guy got a skin-illness just thinking about having to play for a poor 1Mio now, showed that LTIR is ready to be revised...
- VeryModernMan

Certainly suspicious, but I think everyone knew Hossa wasn't going to finish his contract.

Not sure why everyone is bringing up Zetterberg going on LTIR and how that will solve the cap situation in Detroit. Zetterberg's cap hit would still count against and Detroit would still have 0 cap space and their adjusted ceiling would still be 3.2M over the cap.

Zetterberg would have to retire to clear space or Detroit would have to trade/dump salary of at least 3.2M+ to become cap compliant so they can make in-season moves.

Every team has their own financial department and it will be corrected by trading someone.
- Glak18

Zetterberg I believe signed his contract after the 2013 CBA and had years left after 35, so even if he retires the cap hit remains. But by keeping him on LTIR like Franzen, it doesn't give them extra capspace, but gives them overage. Zetterberg's contract is still on book, yes, but they have 0 cap space without him on LTIR, with him on LTIR, they still have 0 yes, but they now are allowed to spend that player's contract over. So you're right about it not adding money, but assuming Zetterberg is put on LTIR, it'll give the Redwings the opportunity to fit in Larkin's contract, just like they've done with Franzen for what? 3 years now.

Zetterberg I believe signed his contract after the 2013 CBA and had years left after 35, so even if he retires the cap hit remains. But by keeping him on LTIR like Franzen, it doesn't give them extra capspace, but gives them overage. Zetterberg's contract is still on book, yes, but they have 0 cap space without him on LTIR, with him on LTIR, they still have 0 yes, but they now are allowed to spend that player's contract over. So you're right about it not adding money, but assuming Zetterberg is put on LTIR, it'll give the Redwings the opportunity to fit in Larkin's contract, just like they've done with Franzen for what? 3 years now.
- Thrill81

Exactly. And however the technical 1 bean, 2 beans numbers work, which I don't know, the end result is the same: a guy goes on LTIR and it means you can pay another guy and still be cap compliant.

Every day that passes, it seems more and more likely Zetterberg is done. Which is weird since he's missed like 5 games over the last 3 seasons. But, it is what it is, and you have to give Holland some credit: he's good at fielding a team at, but not over, the cap.