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HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Aug 7 @ 10:39 PM ET
This place is dead these days. Where can a guy go to cause some trouble?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 8 @ 12:21 AM ET
Always was.
- HonkyTonkMan


Nope was not as an Oiler

Then he got pissed after being traded and become elite
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 8 @ 12:23 AM ET
*Blows loudest, longest, wettest fart
- HonkyTonkMan


Can’t compare the two

One is a first line Center and the other a first line winger
Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Aug 8 @ 12:32 AM ET
This place is dead these days. Where can a guy go to cause some trouble?
- HonkyTonkMan

#FreeIggy
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 8 @ 1:05 AM ET
This place is dead these days. Where can a guy go to cause some trouble?
- HonkyTonkMan

University campuses.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Aug 8 @ 8:31 AM ET
Can’t compare the two

One is a first line Center and the other a first line winger

- Redmile247

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 8 @ 10:08 AM ET

- HonkyTonkMan


You laugh but it’s true
benmacw
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 8 @ 12:15 PM ET
You laugh but it’s true
- Redmile247

True, Draisaitl can be considered both a top line winger or a top line center.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 8 @ 12:31 PM ET
You laugh but it’s true
- Redmile247

In what world?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 8 @ 1:15 PM ET
In what world?
- MaximumBone


Drai is very good

But he has either played on the top line with Connor or behind him against weaker completion as a center

Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Aug 8 @ 1:40 PM ET
Drai is very good

But he has either played on the top line with Connor or behind him against weaker completion as a center

- Redmile247


Kinda like Malkin ?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Aug 8 @ 2:05 PM ET
Kinda like Malkin ?
- Reveen.


Are their numbers away from McDavid/Crosby similar?
benmacw
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 8 @ 2:10 PM ET
Are their numbers away from McDavid/Crosby similar?
- Aetherial

His numbers are strong away from mcdavid yes.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Aug 8 @ 2:14 PM ET
His numbers are strong away from mcdavid yes.
- benmacw


OK, but wasn't that the criticism at some point?
Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Aug 8 @ 2:16 PM ET
Are their numbers away from McDavid/Crosby similar?
- Aetherial


They're solid without McD
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 8 @ 3:00 PM ET
Drai is very good

But he has either played on the top line with Connor or behind him against weaker completion as a center

- Redmile247

Okay, and Monahan almost always gets played with an elite play-driving winger against weaker competition as Backlund's line takes the tough minutes (as per you Flames fans).
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 8 @ 3:34 PM ET
Okay, and Monahan almost always gets played with an elite play-driving winger against weaker competition as Backlund's line takes the tough minutes (as per you Flames fans).
- MaximumBone


Monahan gets the oppositions shutdown D and checking line and backs gets the top line of the other team ...what’s your point

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 8 @ 3:38 PM ET
Kinda like Malkin ?
- Reveen.


Malkin has spent years playing away from Crosby and has stepped in as a top line center when Crosby is hurt ....drai has played primarily with Connor in the lineup
Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Aug 8 @ 4:01 PM ET
Malkin has spent years playing away from Crosby and has stepped in as a top line center when Crosby is hurt ....drai has played primarily with Connor in the lineup
- Redmile247


Does Malkin not benefit from playing behind Crosby ?
benmacw
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:38 PM ET
Does Malkin not benefit from playing behind Crosby ?
- Reveen.

No, because that doesn't suit his narrative.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 8 @ 4:43 PM ET
Monahan gets the oppositions shutdown D and checking line and backs gets the top line of the other team ...what’s your point
- Redmile247

By contending that Draisaitl saw "weaker competition" away from McDavid, you imply that he's worse for doing so but neglect to consider how your line of thinking is incongruous with reality. Not all teams are constructed or deployed the same after all.

McLellan typically avoids line-matching but favours a Power Vs Power approach with McDavid's line meaning he takes the role of playing top opposition (Backlund's role). Much like your third line (Bennett and Jankowski), Strome's line couldn't be counted on to play tough minutes against better players so his line ends up getting somewhat sheltered minutes.

Given your argument (which I believe to be fundamentally flawed anyway), this leaves the role of playing the opposition checking line to Draisaitl's line which- by your own admission- is the same role Monahan plays. Therefore, using the fact that Draisaitl plays easier competition while away from Connor when debating who is superior between Monahan and Draisaitl is pretty much irrelevant.

However to use your argument against you, Draisaitl's most frequent linemates when away from McDavid (about half his season minutes-wise) were Lucic, Caggiula, Cammalleri and Aberg. This means he took on the same minutes Monahan takes on but with FAR weaker linemates. Despite that, he still outproduced him at EV over the season.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Aug 8 @ 4:56 PM ET
By contending that Draisaitl saw "weaker competition" away from McDavid, you imply that he's worse for doing so but neglect to consider how your line of thinking is incongruous with reality. Not all teams are constructed or deployed the same after all.

McLellan typically avoids line-matching but favours a Power Vs Power approach with McDavid's line meaning he takes the role of playing top opposition (Backlund's role). Much like your third line (Bennett and Jankowski), Strome's line couldn't be counted on to play tough minutes against better players so his line ends up getting somewhat sheltered minutes.

Given your argument (which I believe to be fundamentally flawed anyway), this leaves the role of playing the opposition checking line to Draisaitl's line which- by your own admission- is the same role Monahan plays. Therefore, using the fact that Draisaitl plays easier competition while away from Connor when debating who is superior between Monahan and Draisaitl is pretty much irrelevant.

However to use your argument against you, Draisaitl's most frequent linemates when away from McDavid (about half his season minutes-wise) were Lucic, Caggiula, Cammalleri and Aberg. This means he took on the same minutes Monahan takes on but with FAR weaker linemates. Despite that, he still outproduced him at EV over the season.

Using your argument, Draisaitl > Monahan

- MaximumBone


My Boy Boner is wicked smart....how did you liking owning that little biatch?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 8 @ 5:00 PM ET
Well it sounds like Sportsnet has listened to the complaining of fans and switched Debrusk and Remenda. Think Remenda is on thin ice.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 8 @ 5:00 PM ET
My Boy Boner is wicked smart....how did you liking owning that little biatch?
- HonkyTonkMan

If he was smart he would've kept it down to one paragraph
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 8 @ 5:06 PM ET
My Boy Boner is wicked smart....how did you liking owning that little biatch?
- HonkyTonkMan

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