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Trevor Shackles
Ottawa Senators
Location: Richmond, BC
Joined: 05.18.2018

Jul 11 @ 5:46 PM ET
Trevor Shackles: Time Machine: Game 3 of the 2017 Eastern Conference Finals Traveling back in time to game 3 of the 2017 Eastern Conference Finals
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: 3 more than philly, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 11 @ 6:03 PM ET
"As I mentioned earlier, scoring those four goals so quickly in the first period probably cost the Senators winning that series, as Matt Murray would go on to allow just seven goals in almost five games. If Fleury was in net, only one goal would’ve made all the difference in the world, but instead, Murray was a brick wall."

Better be careful, the MAF apologist don't like it when the truth is told.
Trevor Shackles
Ottawa Senators
Location: Richmond, BC
Joined: 05.18.2018

Jul 11 @ 6:25 PM ET
"As I mentioned earlier, scoring those four goals so quickly in the first period probably cost the Senators winning that series, as Matt Murray would go on to allow just seven goals in almost five games. If Fleury was in net, only one goal would’ve made all the difference in the world, but instead, Murray was a brick wall."

Better be careful, the MAF apologist don't like it when the truth is told.

- stevens87


Ha, Fleury was still decent, but Murray stole the series
sensarmy_11
Winnipeg Jets
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 11 @ 6:46 PM ET


AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jul 11 @ 7:10 PM ET
D Mikhail Sergachev
D Miro Heiskanen
F Cody Glass

ONE of these guys has to be part of a Karlsson trade.

OR resign the guy to a 8 year @11.5m deal
spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

Jul 11 @ 7:18 PM ET
It was something that ECF. That was a tough loss vs Pittsburg. Heck of a series. Karlsson put his ankle on the line for us . It really was a close series,we took the reigning stanley cup champs to a inch of their hockey life that post season. I loved the back forth between the players. Karlsson poking fun at Crosby,Malkin poking fun at Methot. I enjoyed that series better then the 007 finals.

we will be back,some sorting out to do,some time to get the engine revving again. It will be faster,stronger then ever.
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Jul 11 @ 9:05 PM ET
D Mikhail Sergachev
D Miro Heiskanen
F Cody Glass

ONE of these guys has to be part of a Karlsson trade.

OR resign the guy to a 8 year @11.5m deal

- AlfieisKing

problem is if Karlsson doesn't want to be part of the Sens, doesn't matter how much money we offer, he'll turn it down. As well do we really want a player who doesn't want to be here?
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jul 11 @ 10:25 PM ET
problem is if Karlsson doesn't want to be part of the Sens, doesn't matter how much money we offer, he'll turn it down. As well do we really want a player who doesn't want to be here?
- Maverick1818

I understand what you're saying, the problem is WHY tf does he NOT want to be here? They need to correct this BIG time. We all know Melnyk's view on $ is the problem.
DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

Jul 11 @ 10:27 PM ET
Thanks Trevor.

I was in the same timezone as you at that time and I remember the short nights vividly. Unforgettable, even though we ended up short.

I had two of those "can't lose" moments in my life and this is one of them (the other being the Netherlands during the 2010 world cup).
TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.07.2014

Jul 11 @ 10:28 PM ET
Best case scenario for all this mess is we trade Karlsson to Vegas for a future heavy package which includes their 1st rounder for next year without any protection, and hope they fall back down to earth.

DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

Jul 11 @ 10:32 PM ET
Best case scenario for all this mess is we trade Karlsson to Vegas for a future heavy package which includes their 1st rounder for next year without any protection, and hope they fall back down to earth.


- TheCalSen


Well, technically Barrie + our 1st would be better from Colorado. Then we can say we traded an expensive Karlsson for a cheaper Barrie and Turris + Bowers for Duchene, I guess
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Jul 11 @ 10:50 PM ET
I understand what you're saying, the problem is WHY tf does he NOT want to be here? They need to correct this BIG time. We all know Melnyk's view on $ is the problem.
- AlfieisKing

I agree, but it's pretty simple, if he wanted to be here, he would have resigned by now
DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

Jul 11 @ 11:02 PM ET
I agree, but it's pretty simple, if he wanted to be here, he would have resigned by now
- Maverick1818




Panzer_IVA
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.02.2018

Jul 12 @ 7:21 AM ET
I agree, but it's pretty simple, if he wanted to be here, he would have resigned by now
- Maverick1818

It's also what I'm thinking. I only see two ways we keep Erik Karlsson: we offer him something stupid high (8x$14M+), or there's a change in senior management.

So, one way out, really.
YzermanTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Reveen is JB’s salad tosser
Joined: 08.21.2013

Jul 12 @ 9:09 AM ET
D Mikhail Sergachev
D Miro Heiskanen
F Cody Glass

ONE of these guys has to be part of a Karlsson trade.

OR resign the guy to a 8 year @11.5m deal

- AlfieisKing

No. None of those guys has to be. Barrie and a first is the approximate.
sensarmy_11
Winnipeg Jets
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 12 @ 9:18 AM ET
No. None of those guys has to be. Barrie and a first is the approximate.
- YzermanTheMan


Wow, a real insider who clearly knows exactly what a player is worth and what will happen..

WOW!!!!!!!

you should be on TSN or ESPN or something.....you clearly know it all
YzermanTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Reveen is JB’s salad tosser
Joined: 08.21.2013

Jul 12 @ 9:51 AM ET
Wow, a real insider who clearly knows exactly what a player is worth and what will happen..

WOW!!!!!!!

you should be on TSN or ESPN or something.....you clearly know it all

- sensarmy_11

I agree
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Jul 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
No. None of those guys has to be. Barrie and a first is the approximate.
- YzermanTheMan

Barrie and a 1st for Karlsson would be crazy stupid for Ottawa to give up.

Maybe Barrie, our first, Bowers back and another 1st lol
sportsdataguy
Ottawa Senators
Location: NS
Joined: 11.24.2014

Jul 12 @ 12:31 PM ET
Barrie and a 1st for Karlsson would be crazy stupid for Ottawa to give up.

Maybe Barrie, our first, Bowers back and another 1st lol

- Maverick1818


But our 1st is guaranteed to get us Jack Hughes! (so we're constantly told)

But in all seriousness, giving up EK65 *could* end up making that pick higher than if we had him, all depends on what we get back.

Might be more advantageous for Colorado to just stay out of it and hope we get lowballed AND lose EK65, improving the pick overall.

I don't think that'll be the case though, as long as there's at least a couple of possible suitors, which there are. Just a question of whether it's before or after the season starts.

Hope Dorion holds strong, salvaging his reputation depends on it!
roadzy
Joined: 05.20.2015

Jul 12 @ 1:13 PM ET
's actually looking like a 4 team deal .taken with a grain of salt but I have family that work closely with EM who is dictating the deal dorion is just the receptionist.
Ottawa signs EK to 8 year 10 mill for Tampa.
To Tampa EK sign at 8x10 Zack Smith .
To Rangers Callahan Tampa 2020 2nd and 2021 3rd
To Vegas Bobby Ryan and Ottawa 2020 second and Tampa 2021 first.
To Ottawa Tyler Johnson . Sergechev . And Vegas 2019 3rd round pick
sensarmy_11
Winnipeg Jets
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 12 @ 1:46 PM ET
's actually looking like a 4 team deal .taken with a grain of salt but I have family that work closely with EM who is dictating the deal dorion is just the receptionist.
Ottawa signs EK to 8 year 10 mill for Tampa.
To Tampa EK sign at 8x10 Zack Smith .
To Rangers Callahan Tampa 2020 2nd and 2021 3rd
To Vegas Bobby Ryan and Ottawa 2020 second and Tampa 2021 first.
To Ottawa Tyler Johnson . Sergechev . And Vegas 2019 3rd round pick

- roadzy


I call bullpoop.....that's a HORRIBLE deal for ottawa
roadzy
Joined: 05.20.2015

Jul 12 @ 1:50 PM ET
What do you expect from EM he is only cares about money Johson is on a good contract and serg is also for what EM wants to spend plus he drops Bobby Ryan's money and Smith's money
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Max and UG are hockey geniuses! I think they should be GM of a NHL team.
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 12 @ 2:04 PM ET
I call bullpoop.....that's a HORRIBLE deal for ottawa
- sensarmy_11


it is.

but if melnyk is pulling the strings, it's very realistic.
SarthGnome
Ottawa Senators
Location: North York, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jul 12 @ 2:56 PM ET
's actually looking like a 4 team deal .taken with a grain of salt but I have family that work closely with EM who is dictating the deal dorion is just the receptionist.
Ottawa signs EK to 8 year 10 mill for Tampa.
To Tampa EK sign at 8x10 Zack Smith .
To Rangers Callahan Tampa 2020 2nd and 2021 3rd
To Vegas Bobby Ryan and Ottawa 2020 second and Tampa 2021 first.
To Ottawa Tyler Johnson . Sergechev . And Vegas 2019 3rd round pick

- roadzy



That's actually a great deal for Ottawa.
Bye-bye Ryan and Smith, hello Sergachev and Johnson.

Rangers and Vegas get (frank)ed over on levels I had no idea existed.
Taking Ryan on for a 2020 2nd and a 2021 1st
Callahan for a 2020 2nd and 2021 3rd
sportsdataguy
Ottawa Senators
Location: NS
Joined: 11.24.2014

Jul 12 @ 4:04 PM ET
That's actually a great deal for Ottawa.
Bye-bye Ryan and Smith, hello Sergachev and Johnson.

Rangers and Vegas get (frank)ed over on levels I had no idea existed.
Taking Ryan on for a 2020 2nd and a 2021 1st
Callahan for a 2020 2nd and 2021 3rd

- SarthGnome


Agreed, its not bad considering we ditched Ryan. If it werent for him, I'd expect Point instead of Johnson and a 1st as well.
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