Lose the argument, resort to insults. Well done.



And for the 100th time, yes, a team has to (frank)ing prove they are contenders. A team like Tampa Bay isn't a contender because they add a new player, they are a contender because they've proven they deserve that label AND added a better player.

Can a Cup champion be a Cup champion if the team doesn't prove they are champions? So how could a contender be a contender without proving it? If this were boxing, a #1 contender isn't a #1 contender because of how hard he can hit a heavy bag. He's a #1 contender because he beat everybody else and earned to be the #1 contender.

And yes, there are few contenders, as I already explained to you. Not every team can be considered a contender otherwise the word loses it's meaning.



I'm not bashing the Leafs. I'm simply stating the facts. They are a young team, full of potential but they are not a contender yet. They haven't proved it. They haven't won a playoff series, they haven't gone deep, they don't have award winners or league leaders. They have young players with potential.



Same poop from you, losing an argument, resort to insults.



It's not illogical at all. The Minnesota Wild have finished with 100+ points two years in a row. They lost in the 1st round both times. They are not a contender. They are a pretender. They haven't proven they can be considered a contender.

Can you add a player and be considered a contender? It depends. Did your team truly add the player or did you lose other players (like the Leafs)? Did the team achieve significant signs of success before (like Tampa Bay)? You are constantly talking about a team making moves to add players but you refuse to acknowledge that if that same team loses impact players that it also plays into the equation. The whole picture matters.

You wasted your own time by trying to change the original discussion which was whether or not the Leafs were a top 5 team and/or a contender. That's on you.
- Unholy_Goalie

So by that logic, the Miami Heat weren't contenders when King James & Chris Bosh decided to join Dwayne Wade? Or when James decided to join the Cavs for a second time?

You're so FACTUALLY incorrect in that statement it's laughable.

So glad I've been one of the good guys

I knew this day was coming
- RickJames77

Meh! Painting with a wide brushstroke and generalizations don't always work so well. Just ask UG.

So by that logic, the Miami Heat weren't contenders when King James & Chris Bosh decided to join Dwayne Wade? Or when James decided to join the Cavs for a second time?

You're so FACTUALLY incorrect in that statement it's laughable.
- Pen15

Don't even respond to him...It's really not worth it. He'll wait until he wakes up at 2pm, reread every post, and take the opposite stance of every post he is mentioned in.

It never really dons on UG that his opinion is almost always the minority, and for good reason.

As much as we all like to think we're special snowflakes, at some point you have to kind of look in the mirror and say to yourself, "maybe I'm wrong here".
- gravyface

Im pretty sure this was made by UG.

Agree - don't like trolls, don't aspire to being Spatso, Kaptaan or Jiggly Puff.
- winsix

Kaptaan might be the worst. Wasnt he the guy that said everyone he met from Toronto said the city was the best, cause we have the CN Tower?

Say around the trade deadline the Leafs are vying for the division lead with the Lightning - who do you target for a rental defenseman? Do you? At what cost?

I don't see there being a need at forward. Maybe some cheap veteran depth?

Kaptaan might be the worst. Wasnt he the guy that said everyone he met from Toronto always just said how great the city was cause we have the CN Tower?
- Archaic

That's the guy

But Bruiniak might've taken the cake for the short period that cockroach survived in these parts.

Im pretty sure this was made by UG.


- Archaic

Must be an occupational hazard of his - he's maybe a lawyer...?

Must be an occupational hazard of his - he's maybe a lawyer...?
- 21peter

Based on the poor evidence he provides for all his arguments, I truly hope not, his clients would not be happy

That's the guy

But Bruiniak might've taken the cake for the short period that cockroach survived in these parts.
- RickJames77

Oh (frank) that guy.

That's the guy

But Bruiniak might've taken the cake for the short period that cockroach survived in these parts.
- RickJames77

Say around the trade deadline the Leafs are vying for the division lead with the Lightning - who do you target for a rental defenseman? Do you? At what cost?

I don't see there being a need at forward. Maybe some cheap veteran depth?
- RickJames77

Definitely, I think theyd be willing to move their first this year.

Speaking of trolls, who was that Isles guy who was always in here beaking off and his avatar was the Sham Wow guy pointing at a Tavares jersey? That guy must need a Sham Wow to mop up the puddle of drool from where the ShannaDubSchlong mouth(frank)ed him unconscious. Ha ha ha suck my balls, jagoff!

- winsix

I mean, his stupidity was wildly entertaining. Some of the poop he spewed, he truly believed.

I believe he said he could see Franky Baggo-Donuts score 30-40 goals

That's the guy

But Bruiniak might've taken the cake for the short period that cockroach survived in these parts.
- RickJames77

The legend.

I mean, his stupidity was wildly entertaining. Some of the poop he spewed, he truly believed.

I believe he said he could see Franky Baggo-Donuts score 30-40 goals
- RickJames77

WOW, Hellybuck got paid. One year of performance and 6.17M AAV. I think he's the real deal, but could turn bad. Not sure I get the term for that AAV.

WOW, Hellybuck got paid. One year of performance and 6.17M AAV. I think he's the real deal, but could turn bad. Not sure I get the term for that AAV.
- Archaic

I like it. Guy is a stud.

Gino Reda
‏Verified account @GinoRedaTSN
5m5 minutes ago

Done deal - Connor Hellebuyck Just signed for 6 years with the @NHLJets - $37 million total - AVV of $6.167 million.


Makes Andersen's deal look pretty decent.

I'm not quite sure how the internet works but isn't this one of those times when Leafs fans should maintain an air of quiet passive-aggressive dignity as opposed to trolling the fanbase who just lost out on their franchise player?
- TheMussel

that doesnt sound like the internet at all

I like it. Guy is a stud.
- Scabeh

He better be. 6.17 AAV with that many years of RFA left is quite the deal for him.

I like it. Guy is a stud.
- Scabeh

Seems steep Scabs

If I were the Jets I'd prefer to bridge him on a 2 year prove yourself 4.5M AAV type contract and then give him the term. He had what, one solid year as a true number 1?

Seems steep Scabs

If I were the Jets I'd prefer to bridge him on a 2 year prove yourself 4.5M AAV type contract and then give him the term. He had what, one solid year as a true number 1?
- RickJames77

Hey, I'm a Habs fan.

I like paying goaltenders lots of money.

Hey, I'm a Habs fan.

I like paying goaltenders lots of money.
- Scabeh

Hey, I'm a Habs fan.

I like paying goaltenders lots of money.
- Scabeh

2nd that...