Nah he will likely go straight to thoughts and prayers!

- Roadrunner75

sickening... pathetic

Carey Price is unmovable until he proves that 17-18 was an anomaly. he was one of the worst goalies in the NHL. even if he bounces back and proves himself to still be a top-10 goalie, that's still going to be a very difficult contract to move unless Montreal is willing to eat at least $2-$3 million of the cap hit.

i have nothing against Price and hope he bounces back but that contract is without question the stupidest thing this franchise has done since choosing Mario Tremblay over Patrick Roy.
- DoubleDown

Agreed. Although if Price returns to MVP form, you may get someone to take the full cap hit.

Weber's recent injuries have to be a big concern for anyone contemplating trading for him.

In either case, now is not the time. It would be a big "sell-low".

weber is easily as bad, if not worse. at least ryan is off the books in 3-4 years.......weber is on the books for another 8-9 years.

and yes, price is amazing (assuming he regains his form).....but you'll still be paying him 10 mil when he's nearly 40 and 4-5 years into his decline.

price and weber contracts are as laughable as ryan

and with each passing year ryan's contract becuase less awful.....hell, evander kane just signed a similar contract and has only slightly better production
- sensarmy_11

It's cute that you think and believe these things. There is no truth in it at all...but it's cute you think it

The Webber / Subban deal will slant in Montreal's favour as the winner if Webber ends up retiring early due to these injuries. I can't remember exactly how it works out but The Fan960 in Calgary broke it down on how the cap implications would fall to Nashville and could be up to $24 million for one year. Again, can't remember exactly how that works but could force Nashville into a sell mode real quick.

Agreed. Although it Price returns to MVP form, you may get someone to take the ful cap hit.

Weber's recent injuries have to be a big concern for anyone contemplating trading for him.

In either case, now is not the time. It would be a big "sell-low".
- Aetherial

Agreed. Worst possible timing to trade either player.

actually, it's a different injury. the first was a foot (or ankle maybe), the second was a knee

and i'm not trying to troll anyone.......why is it automatically trolling if you say anything negative about another team. i figure someone like you, who does nothing but troll sens blogs all day every day, would understand what trolling was
- sensarmy_11

Bc you are trying to make statements that are misinformed when this is the internet, if you make a claim you can easily fact check it. Weber has injury problems....has never been injured until this year which both happened in the season and Habs medical staff basically botched Weber having a chance of a fast recovery. Tore something in his foots, he was cleared to play, then injuries his right knee later on, doesnt get surgery to repair knee, and now its an issue

All day every day, this is the first time I have been on here in a week or so. You guys are just so broken down of a fan base you dont like it when someone outlines some facts or reported speculations from paid NHL insiders or reporters. OMG STOP TROLLING US WITH POSTING WHAT PAID PROFESSIONALS WITH SOURCES ABOUT MY TEAM ARE SAYING

But go back to your sens fantasy land thinking Eugene is going to sell the team any day now and that Karlsson is going to land you Draisaitl, Nurse and Yamamoto type talk. Yeah thats reality

price doesn't just need to bounce back, given that the team in front of him has gotten significantly worse, he almost needs to be better.

as for weber....when was the last time a 33 year old came back stronger off 2 major surgeries in 6 months. he was already declining, and this will accelerate it.

for the record, i do think ryan's contract is worse (he's as injury prone as they come) but price and weber are right up there. the habs will be paying those 2 players like 18mil a year until 2026
- sensarmy_11

Andrei Markov came back pretty good after his 2 surgeries to the knees.

I am not even worried about Shea Weber.

Habs suck and their GM is to blame. Hes driving the team into the ground. The PK trade was abysmal and the traded their best center for domi

Guys like Weber have never had footspeed as an asset. They use smarts, position and attitude as their strength. Players like Stevens, Pronger, Chelios played long into their age because of these strengths. I agree with you in that he might slow down slightly but will remain a top end Dman until he retires.
- willey101

The league was much slower then than now.

Also teams are ALL now focusing on speed and skill. When the other guys you named played, the focus was on size and toughness and a lot more clutching and grabbing was allowed.

A deficit of speed in today's game is a lot more damaging than it used to be.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then.

That Weber can't stay healthy or him not being NEARLY the player he used to be are both false imo.

He's been injured severly for the first time in his career, i'll wait until calling him injury prone.

And I doubt Price suddently went from "best goaltender in the world" to "bad forever" all of a sudden. He'll most likely bounce back. Talent doesn't disappear like that.

I do hate his contract though.
- Scabeh

guy missed like 3 games in a decade before last season but HE CAN NEVER STAY HEALTHY!!!!!!!

The league was much slower then than now.

Also teams are ALL now focusing on speed and skill. When the other guys you named played, the focus was on size and toughness and a lot more clutching and grabbing was allowed.

A deficit of speed in today's game is a lot more damaging than it used to be.
- Aetherial

That's a good point.

I do think if anyone can pull it off though, it's the man mountain.

Chara is still managing alright, even if he's not who he used to be.

But you're right, it could be more trouble for him than it was for Pronger.

Bc you are trying to make statements that are misinformed when this is the internet, if you make a claim you can easily fact check it. Weber has injury problems....has never been injured until this year which both happened in the season and Habs medical staff basically botched Weber having a chance of a fast recovery. Tore something in his foots, he was cleared to play, then injuries his right knee later on, doesnt get surgery to repair knee, and now its an issue

All day every day, this is the first time I have been on here in a week or so. You guys are just so broken down of a fan base you dont like it when someone outlines some facts or reported speculations from paid NHL insiders or reporters. OMG STOP TROLLING US WITH POSTING WHAT PAID PROFESSIONALS WITH SOURCES ABOUT MY TEAM ARE SAYING

But go back to your sens fantasy land thinking Eugene is going to sell the team any day now and that Karlsson is going to land you Draisaitl, Nurse and Yamamoto type talk. Yeah thats reality
- DDM-Coga

Bc you are trying to make statements that are misinformed when this is the internet, if you make a claim you can easily fact check it. Weber has injury problems....has never been injured until this year which both happened in the season and Habs medical staff basically botched Weber having a chance of a fast recovery. Tore something in his foots, he was cleared to play, then injuries his right knee later on, doesnt get surgery to repair knee, and now its an issue

All day every day, this is the first time I have been on here in a week or so. You guys are just so broken down of a fan base you dont like it when someone outlines some facts or reported speculations from paid NHL insiders or reporters. OMG STOP TROLLING US WITH POSTING WHAT PAID PROFESSIONALS WITH SOURCES ABOUT MY TEAM ARE SAYING

But go back to your sens fantasy land thinking Eugene is going to sell the team any day now and that Karlsson is going to land you Draisaitl, Nurse and Yamamoto type talk. Yeah thats reality
- DDM-Coga

pretty sure having 2 back to back major injuries, forcing you to miss almost a year, can be considered "injury problems"

and please don't act like all do you on here isn't trolling sens fans.........you must have a sad little life when you post on this site about 300 times a day. you can make fun of guys like alfie, spatso, and maverick all you want (yes, they're deluded dummies) but you're just like them

The Webber / Subban deal will slant in Montreal's favour as the winner if Webber ends up retiring early due to these injuries. I can't remember exactly how it works out but The Fan960 in Calgary broke it down on how the cap implications would fall to Nashville and could be up to $24 million for one year. Again, can't remember exactly how that works but could force Nashville into a sell mode real quick.
- Flames in 6 04

How it works is this...

Nashville is completely and utterly (frank)ed if (when?) Weber retires 4 years or so from now.

The Webber / Subban deal will slant in Montreal's favour as the winner if Webber ends up retiring early due to these injuries. I can't remember exactly how it works out but The Fan960 in Calgary broke it down on how the cap implications would fall to Nashville and could be up to $24 million for one year. Again, can't remember exactly how that works but could force Nashville into a sell mode real quick.
- Flames in 6 04

Simply put, the salary cap recapture calculation looks at the sum of the salary paid to the player compared to the cap hit they were charged over the same time period. Any cap savings over that time become eligible for recapture.

In Nashville’s case, they paid $56MM in salary while accruing a total cap charge of $31,428,572. The difference – $24,571,428 – becomes eligible for recapture.

Should Weber retire at any point prior to the conclusion of his contract in 2025-26, the Predators would be subsequently be imposed a cap recapture penalty equivalent to that amount divided by the number of years remaining on the contract. If Weber were to retire with just 1 season left on his deal, they would have to take the entire $24+MM penalty in 2025-26. If he were to retire with, say, four years remaining though, that total would be divided by 4, resulting in a cap recapture penalty of $6,142,857 in each of those years up until the conclusion of 2025-26.

That's a good point.

I do think if anyone can pull it off though, it's the man mountain.

Chara is still managing alright, even if he's not who he used to be.

But you're right, it could be more trouble for him than it was for Pronger.
- Scabeh

... oh don't get me wrong, if Weber was able to come back to his pre-injury form, I would love to have him on the Leafs. It would never happen because the hit our roster would have to take to fit him under the cap probably makes the trade counter-productive

pretty sure having 2 back to back major injuries, forcing you to miss almost a year, can be considered "injury problems"

and please don't act like all do you on here isn't trolling sens fans.........you must have a sad little life when you post on this site about 300 times a day. you can make fun of guys like alfie, spatso, and maverick all you want (yes, they're deluded dummies) but you're just like them
- sensarmy_11

Hey Dumb Dumb, like I said I havent been posting on here for a while, its your idiotic core of a fan base on this site who keeps on saying stuff like that while they post all day every day and go into every other thread to explain why Karlsson is going to be traded for all your teams best assets

take a look in the mirror before you start just blindly believing what they say in a poor attempt to deflect at how poopty the organization that you cheer for is ran . I post on my work breaks, news flash like 90% of the people on this site.

Yet you sens fans will cry at all hours of the night at how you are mistreated by other fans on this site, boo hoo you have no lives bc you make fun of the Sens. Thats more of a you problem then a me problem

Good lord, could you be more dramatic? 🙄

Carey Price is unmovable until he proves that 17-18 was an anomaly. he was one of the worst goalies in the NHL. even if he bounces back and proves himself to still be a top-10 goalie, that's still going to be a very difficult contract to move unless Montreal is willing to eat at least $2-$3 million of the cap hit.

i have nothing against Price and hope he bounces back but that contract is without question the stupidest thing this franchise has done since choosing Mario Tremblay over Patrick Roy.
- DoubleDown

Good lord, could you be more dramatic? 🙄
- AvT

Was he wrong?

How it works is this...

Nashville is completely and utterly (frank)ed if (when?) Weber retires 4 years or so from now.
- Aetherial

If he retires tomorrow it's the same $24m+ cap hit owed...only difference is it divides over the remaining length of the contract. Frankly Nashville probably hopes he has to retire tomorrow and they only eat a $3m cap hit...for 8 more years

lol, MTL suddenly has some negativity and it's atrocious... while Toronto has been that way for at least 10-12 years until Matthews came.
- BALUCHA

Matthews was the icing on the cake. You guys did some very good drafting as well. I, for one, hate to admit that.

Was he wrong?
- Aetherial

He wasn't.

But he was dramatic about it!

No player is untradable. But Weber would not garner a return comparable to the value he would have staying put. Price at 10 mil probably would still garner the best return for a goalie compared with other number ones traded... which isn’t that much considering what goalies go for. A first rounder? That’s about it.

What a stupid blog post. Obviously Weber and Price are not tradable right now. Weber is 33, who wants him for like 7 more years at a huge cap hit when his possession stats are under water every year? And Price was just atrocious, is 31 (past his prime), and signed forever at a high price.

Neither of these guys would be tradable. Who would want them?