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grim
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.23.2006

Jul 9 @ 1:43 PM ET
Local media in Ottawa has gone dead on Karlsson talk. They are making sounds suggesting we should expect to see him in training camp. I believe this is only possible with a change in ownership
- spatso


Possibly gone quiet because one of their own (Simmer) erroneously reported that a deal was done. I can't believe we'll see him at Sens Training Camp in the fall.

Regarding an ownership change... requires board approval and simply can not be kept under wraps then happen instantly... when a pending change is real, we'll know about it, long before it actually goes down.
agame99
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 06.29.2018

Jul 9 @ 1:49 PM ET
Shea Weber is a good defenseman.

Or... was.

Almost $8 million per year until he's 41 years old?

A big, physical defenseman who only played 26 games last year and is going to miss a significant portion of this season due to injury?

That's not a good situation for a guy making 3 mill per, let alone $7.875.

You'd have a hard time finding someone to take on that level of risk.

- BINGO!


I think some of these GM’s believe they are signing a Niklas Lidstrom when they sign D men like this. Weber is great, but Lidstrom was an anomaly. He was a top d man until he left the game at 40 y/o + and never got hurt. That is hard to find. I hope Weber gets healthy again, but you can’t expect some of these guys to be 8-10M$ guys until they are 40.
Muskwa
Location: Somewhere down the lazy river
Joined: 03.26.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:55 PM ET
Shea Weber is a good defenseman.

Or... was.

Almost $8 million per year until he's 41 years old?

A big, physical defenseman who only played 26 games last year and is going to miss a significant portion of this season due to injury?

That's not a good situation for a guy making 3 mill per, let alone $7.875.

You'd have a hard time finding someone to take on that level of risk.

- BINGO![/
quote]

Nashville did!
cnatch
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 07.02.2018

Jul 9 @ 1:57 PM ET
Ottawa's odds are 150 to 1 to win the Cup. Think I'll put $25 on that and hope they can pull off a Vegas like season with a team of misfits. $25 is basically pocket change anyways.

I have never gambled before so I dont know if there is a minimum limit or if that meets it

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Not a group of misfits and cast-offs. Just the same poope team they've always had, minus the few talented players that we're there last year. Save your money. If you do win, though, you should be able to buy that sens team; They're selling for cheap.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
Eklund: Habs Hating Ridiculous. Isles Great Signing, Karlsson, Skinner..Buzz@1
- Eklund



jeez Ek... I NEVER NEVER EVER saw you run to the defense of the Maple Leafs when they were a tire-fire (not a Vancouver tire fire - but a tire fire non the less)....

what is this "treating the Habs with kid gloves" nonsense

not once did you comment on how absurd the suggestions were of half of the Leafs roster players to Vancouver for Luongo.

same for Ottawa.

truth is - just like the Leafs under Burke/Nonis/Wilson... the Habs currently, the Sens currently are full blown tire-fires.. stop with the feel good politically correct stuff... what's next "think of the children"?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:06 PM ET
Eklund: Habs Hating Ridiculous. Isles Great Signing, Karlsson, Skinner..Buzz@1
- Eklund

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/shea-weber
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:07 PM ET
The Canadiens won't move Price, but if they wanted to they could get the biggest return ever received for a goalie


Are you serious EK????????

Come on, that contract has negative value at this point.

Bob McKenzie said a few weeks ago that there is maybe 2-3 GM's in the league that think having 10 figure salary player as your goaltender is a good idea.
The_Whale
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Canandaigua, NY
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jul 9 @ 2:08 PM ET
I'll PLay.

Which winger do the Sabres currently have that is Jeff Skinner?

- ImThatGuy

Its not the player its the 1 year left and age. He just doesn't fit what we are doing. Unless they have a very good feeling they can extend him or its a sign and trade. We aren't in the position to give up picks or prospects for a player with 1 year left on their deal. Makes no sense at all.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:09 PM ET
Are you serious EK????????

Come on, that contract has negative value at this point.

Bob McKenzie said a few weeks ago that there is maybe 2-3 GM's in the league that think having 10 figure salary player as your goaltender is a good idea.

- classic321

There are GM's out there that think that paying their goaltender $1B is a good idea?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 9 @ 2:10 PM ET
Are you serious EK????????

Come on, that contract has negative value at this point.

Bob McKenzie said a few weeks ago that there is maybe 2-3 GM's in the league that think having 10 figure salary player as your goaltender is a good idea.

- classic321


Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 9 @ 2:10 PM ET
There are GM's out there that think that paying their goaltender $1B is a good idea?
- eichiefs9


Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:11 PM ET
Are you serious EK????????

Come on, that contract has negative value at this point.

Bob McKenzie said a few weeks ago that there is maybe 2-3 GM's in the league that think having 10 figure salary player as your goaltender is a good idea.

- classic321


2-3?

Nice!
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:12 PM ET
jesus christ......weber and price are 2 of the most unmoveable players in the league, right up there with bobby ryan

the habs are ripped mercilessly because their GM is ridiculously incompetent and makes his team worse and worse with every subsequent move. and he does this despite not being financially handcuffed....like PD in Ottawa.
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jul 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
jeez Ek... I NEVER NEVER EVER saw you run to the defense of the Maple Leafs when they were a tire-fire (not a Vancouver tire fire - but a tire fire non the less)....

what is this "treating the Habs with kid gloves" nonsense

not once did you comment on how absurd the suggestions were of half of the Leafs roster players to Vancouver for Luongo.

same for Ottawa.

truth is - just like the Leafs under Burke/Nonis/Wilson... the Habs currently, the Sens currently are full blown tire-fires.. stop with the feel good politically correct stuff... what's next "think of the children"?

- BorjeFan4Ever


Nah he will likely go straight to thoughts and prayers!
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
jesus christ......weber and price are 2 of the most unmoveable players in the league, right up there with bobby ryan

the habs are ripped mercilessly because their GM is ridiculously incompetent and makes his team worse and worse with every subsequent move. and he does this despite not being financially handcuffed....like PD in Ottawa.

- sensarmy_11


Don't be silly. Ryan is, easily, the worst contract in the league.

10M for an elite goaltender isn't a good idea, it's a contract difficult to move for sure.

7M for Bobby (frank)ing Ryan is laughable.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:16 PM ET
Don't be silly. Ryan is, easily, the worst contract in the league.

10M for an elite goaltender isn't a good idea, it's a contract difficult to move for sure.

7M for Bobby (frank)ing Ryan is laughable.

- Scabeh


weber is easily as bad, if not worse. at least ryan is off the books in 3-4 years.......weber is on the books for another 8-9 years.

and yes, price is amazing (assuming he regains his form).....but you'll still be paying him 10 mil when he's nearly 40 and 4-5 years into his decline.

price and weber contracts are as laughable as ryan

and with each passing year ryan's contract becuase less awful.....hell, evander kane just signed a similar contract and has only slightly better production
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 9 @ 2:20 PM ET
Shea Weber is a good defenseman.

Or... was.

Almost $8 million per year until he's 41 years old?

A big, physical defenseman who only played 26 games last year and is going to miss a significant portion of this season due to injury?

That's not a good situation for a guy making 3 mill per, let alone $7.875.

You'd have a hard time finding someone to take on that level of risk.

- BINGO!


i hate the entire organization and i think the trade was stupid. that being said, Weber is really (frank)ing good and is an absolute stud in that he's a great player and he's very handsome. he's always been slow and there's no reason he can't be very effective for another 4-5 years assuming he recovers well.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:21 PM ET
weber is easily as bad, if not worse. at least ryan is off the books in 3-4 years.......weber is on the books for another 8-9 years.

and yes, price is amazing (assuming he regains his form).....but you'll still be paying him 10 mil when he's nearly 40 and 4-5 years into his decline.

price and weber contracts are as laughable as ryan

- sensarmy_11


I disagree.

Weber and Price are still elite players. They are both players who could very well be useful despite growing older.

Will they be overpaid as they go? Probably, yes. Will they still be good/very good hockey players? I believe so yes. Anyone predicting their regression being steep is only making a prediction/wishful thinking since they want the Habs to be terrible since it hasn't happened yet.

I'll laugh with you once they start sucking. Until then, I'll wait.

And it's not like their contracts is the thing preventing the team from being competitive, we have over 12M in cap space just sitting there for no reason.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:22 PM ET
Don't be silly. Ryan is, easily, the worst contract in the league.

10M for an elite goaltender isn't a good idea, it's a contract difficult to move for sure.

7M for Bobby (frank)ing Ryan is laughable.

- Scabeh



Nah brent Seabrook is on that level
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:23 PM ET
I disagree.

Weber and Price are still elite players. They are both players who could very well be useful despite growing older.

Will they be overpaid as they go? Probably, yes. Will they still be good/very good hockey players? I believe so yes. Anyone predicting their regression being steep is only making a prediction/wishful thinking since they want the Habs to be terrible since it hasn't happened yet.

I'll laugh with you once they start sucking. Until then, I'll wait.

And it's not like their contracts is the thing preventing the team from being competitive, we have over 12M in cap space just sitting there for no reason.

- Scabeh


no they aren't....weber can't stay healthy, and even when he is, isnt NEARLY the player he used to be.

if....and that's a big if.....price regains his form, then he's still elite. if he doesn't, or even if he only gets back to being a top 5 guy, then he's one of the worst contracts in the league
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:23 PM ET
Nah brent Seabrook is on that level
- classic321


Damn I forgot about good old Brent. You're right!
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:26 PM ET
no they aren't....weber can't stay healthy, and even when he is, isnt NEARLY the player he used to be.

if....and that's a big if.....price regains his form, then he's still elite. if he doesn't, or even if he only gets back to being a top 5 guy, then he's one of the worst contracts in the league

- sensarmy_11


I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then.

That Weber can't stay healthy or him not being NEARLY the player he used to be are both false imo.

He's been injured severly for the first time in his career, i'll wait until calling him injury prone.

And I doubt Price suddently went from "best goaltender in the world" to "bad forever" all of a sudden. He'll most likely bounce back. Talent doesn't disappear like that.

I do hate his contract though.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:27 PM ET
no they aren't....weber can't stay healthy, and even when he is, isnt NEARLY the player he used to be.

if....and that's a big if.....price regains his form, then he's still elite. if he doesn't, or even if he only gets back to being a top 5 guy, then he's one of the worst contracts in the league

- sensarmy_11


Dude I get you are trying to troll the Habs but Weber has 8 seasons in a row of where he played a full season or just under at 78-79 games played.

Last season he was injured and re injured himself trying to recovery for that same injury this offseason. Saying he cant stay healthy is very misinformed. Bobby ryan cant stay healthy, how many times has that guy broke his hand? Thats a guy who cant stay healthy
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:29 PM ET
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then.

That Weber can't stay healthy or him not being NEARLY the player he used to be are both false imo.

He's been injured severly for the first time in his career, i'll wait until calling him injury prone.

And I doubt Price suddently went from "best goaltender in the world" to "bad forever" all of a sudden. He'll most likely bounce back. Talent doesn't disappear like that.

I do hate his contract though.

- Scabeh


price doesn't just need to bounce back, given that the team in front of him has gotten significantly worse, he almost needs to be better.

as for weber....when was the last time a 33 year old came back stronger off 2 major surgeries in 6 months. he was already declining, and this will accelerate it.

for the record, i do think ryan's contract is worse (he's as injury prone as they come) but price and weber are right up there. the habs will be paying those 2 players like 18mil a year until 2026
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:30 PM ET
Dude I get you are trying to troll the Habs but Weber has 8 seasons in a row of where he played a full season or just under at 78-79 games played.

Last season he was injured and re injured himself trying to recovery for that same injury this offseason. Saying he cant stay healthy is very misinformed. Bobby ryan cant stay healthy, how many times has that guy broke his hand? Thats a guy who cant stay healthy

- DDM-Coga


actually, it's a different injury. the first was a foot (or ankle maybe), the second was a knee

and i'm not trying to troll anyone.......why is it automatically trolling if you say anything negative about another team. i figure someone like you, who does nothing but troll sens blogs all day every day, would understand what trolling was
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