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BMWChiFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: St Louis, MO
Joined: 04.12.2016

Jul 6 @ 5:09 PM ET
BOO HOO. Poor multi-millionaire. Panarin is a spoiled late 20s Brat. Want to know one NHL hockey team that won’t touch him with a 10 foot pole? The Hawks. Accept it or not Panarin was viewed like TT and Duclair. Not worth the hassle or drama. Good luck to any team foolish enough to acquire him. Wonder how Columbus views having him as a player? Thanks but I will be staying “on his case” because I just don’t suffer spoiled Brats well.
- Z3Hawk


Did one of your "inside sources" provide you with this information? Or did you just pull it out of the dumpster like most of your opinions?
BMWChiFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: St Louis, MO
Joined: 04.12.2016

Jul 6 @ 5:13 PM ET
My problem is I don’t see an advantage to the secrecy either for the team or CC. Arguably the secrecy certainly does not treat the fans with respect. We are only months from the start of the season and we don’t know is CC’s career is over or if he is in perfect health or if he is in between these extremes. Arguably this is ridiculous. Some say CC’s health is none of our business. However, it seems counter-intuitive to want your fans to care about the team but then to freeze them out. As I said I don’t understand why this is an advantage to CC. He could certainly decide to inform the fans.
- Z3Hawk

FYI it's called HIPPA, Public Law 104-191.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jul 6 @ 5:13 PM ET
That's a question, right?


Not a safe assumption at all...

- wiz1901



Well nobody has come out and said he is 100% ready to go. Any news anywhere that puts him on the ice? I'm hoping he is healthy.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jul 6 @ 5:15 PM ET
Yep, big markets = bigger cities and more diversity. Panarin should not be faulted for wanting to go somewhere with a bigger Russian community in which to interact and find comfort.

Wasn't there a report that St. Louis already tried to trade for Panarin but it didn't go anywhere because Panarin wasn't likely to resign there?

- L_B_R


Well maybe he’d fit in better if he bothered to learn to speak English - worked for Ovechkin and Tarasenko.
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jul 6 @ 5:16 PM ET
Heard a Russian reporter on NHL Network radio yesterday talking, said no way Panarin ever was going to sign in Columbus.

Doesn't want to be in a small market, wants to be in a big market, loved Chicago.


- vabeachbear


I heard before the Hawks traded him he wants to play in Boston.

So keep an eye on that next summer.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jul 6 @ 5:17 PM ET
Did one of your "inside sources" provide you with this information? Or did you just pull it out of the dumpster like most of your opinions?
- BMWChiFan


Nice try. Heaven forbid facts should go against your opinions. Does Panarin now wear a Hawks’ sweater? No. Beginning, middle and end of story. Go take a drive in your 325.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jul 6 @ 5:20 PM ET
FYI it's called HIPPA, Public Law 104-191.
- BMWChiFan


As usual you don’t read. Think maybe it was open to Crosby to remain completely secretive too?
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jul 6 @ 5:22 PM ET
My problem is I don’t see an advantage to the secrecy either for the team or CC. Arguably the secrecy certainly does not treat the fans with respect. We are only months from the start of the season and we don’t know is CC’s career is over or if he is in perfect health or if he is in between these extremes. Arguably this is ridiculous. Some say CC’s health is none of our business. However, it seems counter-intuitive to want your fans to care about the team but then to freeze them out. As I said I don’t understand why this is an advantage to CC. He could certainly decide to inform the fans.
- Z3Hawk


Why does this have to be continually explained to people like you.....

The secrecy has NOTHING to do with any advantage to the team or the player.

Employment law in this country specifically requires privacy in all matters of health pertaining to an employee. If the Hawks come out and talk about his condition, they will be liable for it.

If Corey wants to talk about it to the public - that's his choice. But from what I heard it was/is, don't be surprised if at the convention he will choose not to talk about it - and when asked, he will say he feels fine and is looking forward to the coming season.

Just because you are a fan of the team, you are not entitled to an explanation of anything - so just get over it already!!!!!!!!
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 6 @ 5:26 PM ET
As usual you don’t read. Think maybe it was open to Crosby to remain completely secretive too?
- Z3Hawk


Yeah but according to HIPPA guidelines I don't think the employer would have any say so in the matter.

If Crawford wanted to make whatever his personal business is, public, well then that's a different story.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 6 @ 5:34 PM ET
Keep him at 10.5 Million or 11mil?
- wiz1901



I have no issue with Panarin making $10.5-$11 million (although I think Tarasenko money is move realistic), but that doesn't fit in with the Hawks strategy.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 6 @ 5:34 PM ET
I see the Senators as a natural depository for hawk defenseman depth, but everything seems hinged up the Tampa NY Rangers Senators three way deal.
I know that the Lightning would be more than willing to send Cal foote, Boris Katchouk and more of their farm depths along with "selected" roster guys (if they would agree to a trade)...don't ask me my source 'cause I ain't giving it.
and whether the rangers are the Stone soft landing in this deal, or the benefactor of the Tampa Cap subtractions, Ottawa isn't getting defense back, n to the Russian kid, or any other the 3 fattest dee-man contracts for the Rangers either.

So...they need to find some guys and they may be our surplus...

and just think of how the ramificatiosn for one of the teams below LOSING the arbitration to one of the in BOLD NHLers...it sets up scrambling own their part that involved subtractions now to set up for the nest couples years of re-ups...

I am just saying, things are far from over tradewise...

Here is the complete list of players:

Anaheim Ducks
Brandon Montour <---(I wouldn't want him unhappy...)

Calgary Flames
Garnet Hathaway
Mark Jankowski
Brett Kulak
Elias Lindholm. (I am already on the phone....)
David Rittich

Colorado Avalanche
Patrik Nemeth
Matt Nieto

Dallas Stars
Mattias Janmark. ,----speed speed speed
Devin Shore
Gemel Smith

Florida Panthers
MacKenzie Weegar

Minnesota Wild
Mathew Dumba
Jason Zucker

Montreal Canadiens
Joel Armia
Phillip Danault <- u guys with the danault chubbies, here you go!

Nashville Predators
Miikka Salomaki

New Jersey Devils
Blake Coleman
Stefan Noesen

New York Islanders
Brock Nelson

New York Rangers
Kevin Hayes (what a surprise!)
Brady Skjei
Ryan Spooner
Jimmy Vesey (what a surprise! II )

Ottawa Senators
Cody Ceci
Mark Stone

Philadelphia Flyers
Taylor Leier
Alex Lyon

Pittsburgh Penguins
Jamie Oleksiak

San Jose Sharks
Chris Tierney

St. Louis Blues
Joel Edmundson
Dmitrij Jaskin
Oskar Sundqvist

Vancouver Canucks
Troy Stecher

Vegas Golden Knights
William Karlsson. <- the biggest $ gamble ever!
Colin Miller
Tomas Nosek

Washington Capitals
Liam O’Brien

Winnipeg Jets
Marko Dano
Connor Hellebuyck
Adam Lowry
Brandon Tanev
Jacob Trouba
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 6 @ 5:42 PM ET

Here is the complete list of players:

Calgary Flames
Elias Lindholm. (I am already on the phone....)


New York Rangers
Brady Skjei

Ottawa Senators
Cody Ceci



Vegas Golden Knights
Colin Miller


- wiz1901


Would love to add any of these players. Wiz, who do you think won the Calgary/Carolina trade?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:51 PM ET
Or at least planning and preparing for his permanent replacement.
- StLBravesFan


Yes, IMO a franchise should always have a reasonable plan to replace any #1. Whether it be drafting and developing or going overseas something Stan and Mark Kelly are fantastic at doing (Niemi/Raanta). Yes they get to a point where they are ready for the NHL and a shot to be the #1 but the #1 is still playing up to #1 status so you move him out, hopefully for something solid, and replace him and groom another goalie. .... As mentioned earlier I think the best in house replacement may end up being the Finn they just signed a FA, Kevin Lankinen.

Been a very long time since the organIzation needed a #1 and we've all been spoiled by Crawford.




Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:53 PM ET
How many years left on his deal?
- z1990z


Crow? Signed thru next yr at 6 mil per. When he starts his new contract in 20/21 he'll be 36.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:57 PM ET
Duclair was done when he loafed his way back to the bench after shifts. Laziness is a hard trait to address. Hawks obviously decided why even bother.
- Z3Hawk


These are easy to play against players. Most times nothing to do with size or skill. It's just a compete mentality.

No doubting the kids skill/size/speed but his IQ and compete are below average. If he had a high compete that would nearly eradicate his low IQ.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:00 PM ET
Considering the amount of time that we have put into developing him, I'm not high on trading Forsling either, but it seems we have about 4 guys with the exact same skillset right now that are close to the NHL.
- Chunk


That's a good thing, a luxury the organIzation has not had for a long time. 2-3-4 deep at a position with reasonable prospects fighting for a roster spot. And of course you can deal from strength if need be.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 6 @ 6:04 PM ET
We’ll always have Paris....
- StLBravesFan


You wore blue and the Gremans wore grey...
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:13 PM ET
Problem is Q doesn’t keep Anisimov there - suddenly Schmaltz is a LW. Schmaltz should not have played any LW - back-pedaled development. The difficulty is Anisimov should be a 3C or 4C but the Hawks can’t afford to pay him what they do to play there.

Key point is Anisimov is oft-injured and the Hawks don’t really miss him when he is out. The Hawks play with more pace when Anisimov not available.

- Z3Hawk


Anisimov is a natural centerman and understands the position and how to play it responsibly. He didn't get 10/11 yrs in the NHL due to his skating. Speed goes away but IQ never does.

I do agree he's more a 3 than a 2 and think he has value. He's played 72, 64, 77, 52 and 81 games the last 5 yrs. He answers the bell often enough not to be considered an injury risk.
D2D
Joined: 05.27.2018

Jul 6 @ 6:20 PM ET
BOO HOO. Poor multi-millionaire. Panarin is a spoiled late 20s Brat. Want to know one NHL hockey team that won’t touch him with a 10 foot pole? The Hawks. Accept it or not Panarin was viewed like TT and Duclair. Not worth the hassle or drama. Good luck to any team foolish enough to acquire him. Wonder how Columbus views having him as a player? Thanks but I will be staying “on his case” because I just don’t suffer spoiled Brats well.
- Z3Hawk


Whaaaat? All the Breadman did was perform and perform well the two years and the one in Columbus. He didn't want to get traded in the first place but went out and still performed. He put up respectable numbers for a Columbus team not as strong offensively as the Hawks. It seemed to me that he was well liked on and off the ice and had a great proponent in Kaner. Contrary, TT was viewed as lazy and uninspired although I liked him and we have talked about DuClair at nauseum (sp). Too many and so few years...enough said!
Slofire94
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CA
Joined: 01.17.2016

Jul 6 @ 6:24 PM ET
I heard before the Hawks traded him he wants to play in Boston.

So keep an eye on that next summer.

- dahawks8819


If Tampa gets Karlsson, I could see Boston responding by pulling a sign and trade for Panarin this summer too. Who knows...
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:31 PM ET
Generally agree, but I think I'd put Wise in that first group. He seems to be a 3C floor with a 2C ceiling. I thought I read that before some injury issues, there was talk of him possibly going top 10 in the draft.
- tvetter


Yes sir, Wise has to be a chance to be in the steal of the draft conversation. Yes, he had a poor yr as a 16 yr old, trained hard for his 17 yr old yr and got hurt in Game 1 IIRC. Rehabbed like a maniac, came back midseason and was very good. That's why he fell to the Hawks in the 3rd rd.

His teammates and coaches gush about the kid both on and off the ice. Plus I'd add the kid plays with jam with a ++ work ethic. I agree probably a 3C floor and 2C ceiling.

I always figure it this way. In a country of 330 million we have one national team that plays together all yr, the NTDP. There are only 25 roster spots for the 16 yr old team and 25 for the 17 yr old team. Any kid who came thru the program, as Wise/Hayden/Louis/Barratt have, were for those 2 yrs pretty much the very best this country had to offer. Not all, some go to Major Junior or just play in the USHL for different reasons but for the most part those kids are the tip of the pyramid.

Wise is a skilled player with a lot of intangibles.


Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:33 PM ET
I really don't care what the issue is, since it's none of my business, but I think the reason they went after Ward was they don't think CC will be ready day 1.
- tvetter


Coupled with the train wreck the position was last yr, agreed that's the reason they wanted Ward, plus the fact he'd sign for 1 yr.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jul 6 @ 6:34 PM ET
As usual you don’t read. Think maybe it was open to Crosby to remain completely secretive too?
- Z3Hawk

Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Everything you post is nonsense and you try to act like you know everything about everything but you actually don't know poop. Have you ever been punched in the face for talking too much, or trying to one up everyone?
BMWChiFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: St Louis, MO
Joined: 04.12.2016

Jul 6 @ 6:39 PM ET
Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Everything you post is nonsense and you try to act like you know everything about everything but you actually don't know poop. Have you ever been punched in the face for talking too much, or trying to one up everyone?
- GPHawksfan

No, Z3Hawk apparently never gets tired of being wrong!
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 6 @ 6:46 PM ET
Yep, big markets = bigger cities and more diversity. Panarin should not be faulted for wanting to go somewhere with a bigger Russian community in which to interact and find comfort.

Wasn't there a report that St. Louis already tried to trade for Panarin but it didn't go anywhere because Panarin wasn't likely to resign there?

- L_B_R


Also reports that Tarrasenko said to wait on coming to St Louis until Hitchcock was gone
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