I will take up the "redeem Stan Bowman" challenge:

Trade 1: Artem Anisimov and Gustav Forsling (or another defenseman) to Montreal for Max Pacioretty and Jacob De La Rose (or Michael Macloud--forgive the spelling)

Rationale: Montreal gets an experienced center and help on the blue line which they need with Shea Weber gone for the forseeable future, and they get rid of their Captain who wants out. Chicago gets a goal scoring winger and a young center prospect with size. If the deal looks unbalanced from the Montreal side I would be willing to add additional prospects/defensemen (Alexander Fortin or Jan Rutta or others).

I also would do this deal without Anisimov/Pacioretty, and go prospect for prospects with Montreal.

I like your three way trade idea with Ottawa/Tampa, and I am not sure I can improve upon it.
- hpk90

Problem with any deal for Pacioretty is he is a UFA next yr and wants paid with term and will start that deal as a 31 yr old that November. ........

How bout one of the young RHD Dmen and Anisimov for 25 yr old Denault and a 3rd or 4th or De La Rose?

5) Trading Seabrook + Hossa's full cap hits without giving up a 1st round pick or Schmaltz, Cat, Jokiharju, Boquist, Beaudin.

Minor proposal:

Out:
Oesterle
Gustafsson

In:
Pageau

Hawks alleviate some of the overabundance of D-men (and OTT gets some puck movers to help replace EK), and acquire a solid 3C that can take some of the D-pressure off the top lines.
- Chunk

I still think the Hawks and OTT are a fit, especially once Karlsson is moved. I think they will need to get to the floor and Hossa is very appealing for the cash strapped owner and a couple of the Hawks' young Dmen would probably slot right in for them. Unfortunately Forsling would be one of those Dmen and I'm not close to giving up on the 22 yr old.

25 yr old Pageau is a nice target. A money in the bank 3C for a fair hit and 2 yr term.

This team NEEDS a healthy CC this year. With the D still a huge ?, we will need a solid man in the pipes. Not to say Ward cant do it, but there is a huge difference between CC and Cam Ward.
- z1990z

Hawks are in transition, man. That might/probably(?) includes replacing Crow.

Justin those trade proposals that you suggested do not help the hawks at all giving up youth for older players does not make any sense in what they are trying to do going forward.

Trade proposals:

AA to Montreal or to the IsLanders for a 2nd and 3rd

2nd and 5th to Winnipeg for Lowery and Lemiux

Hino dahlstrom/forsling hossa's contract and a 3rd ti carolina for faulk

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding

That's what I've been saying as well.

Too much weird stuff with CC.

I believe they don't say anything as they are not allowed to.
- vabeachbear

We may find out at the convention!

Bowman:

“Corey’s in that same preparation mode. I guess when you get to the convention he can speak more specifically about himself. But nothing has changed. We expect him to be back and ready to go in training camp.”

Put him on waivers. If he clears waivers he could be assigned to Rockford. If someone claims him you can pull him back and keep him in the NHL or trade him.
- -Doh-

I got it, for some reason I thought it was just another way to gauge interest. Makes sense with Crow/Ward/Forsberg.

Hawks are in transition, man. That might/probably(?) includes replacing Crow.
- Mr Ricochet

Or at least planning and preparing for his permanent replacement.

Hawks are in transition, man. That might/probably(?) includes replacing Crow.
- Mr Ricochet

How many years left on his deal?

I would have qualified Duclair for one year, most of which could have been buried or gone if claimed on waivers. Perhaps number of contracts was the biggest factor as we seem to have more than most teams.
- 67hawks

We’re sitting at 48 contract as of now, that may have been a factor. Why burn a contract on a guy you don’t believe in.

5) Trading Seabrook + Hossa's full cap hits without giving up a 1st round pick or Schmaltz, Cat, Jokiharju, Boquist, Beaudin.
- EnzoD

Good luck with that. Maybe the Hawks could trade Hossa and half to include a lesser asset, but it's unlikely.

Hopefully Stan is waiting to take advantage of the Karlsson trade once it happens. Ottawa could be looking for some cheap cap hits and Hossa could work perfectly.

I would also add Mitchell to your list of young players that shouldn't go.

Justin those trade proposals that you suggested do not help the hawks at all giving up youth for older players does not make any sense in what they are trying to do going forward.

Trade proposals:

AA to Montreal or to the IsLanders for a 2nd and 3rd

2nd and 5th to Winnipeg for Lowery and Lemiux

Hino dahlstrom/forsling hossa's contract and a 3rd ti carolina for faulk
- Scott1977

Lowry would be an awesome addition!

I think Bowman and his stab is at the NHL's highest level, but it's hard to forgive the Panarin trade. Hated it when it happened and now when you realise that they would have been able to keep him it only tastes worse.
- PetterKane

Yes lets continue to lament the Panarin trade in spite of the fact that he is now treating Columbus like garbage. Deal with the fact that Panarin only cares about Panarin. Doesn’t care about team or teammates.

I would have qualified Duclair for one year, most of which could have been buried or gone if claimed on waivers. Perhaps number of contracts was the biggest factor as we seem to have more than most teams.
- 67hawks

Duclair was done when he loafed his way back to the bench after shifts. Laziness is a hard trait to address. Hawks obviously decided why even bother.

I still think the Hawks and OTT are a fit, especially once Karlsson is moved. I think they will need to get to the floor and Hossa is very appealing for the cash strapped owner and a couple of the Hawks' young Dmen would probably slot right in for them. Unfortunately Forsling would be one of those Dmen and I'm not close to giving up on the 22 yr old.

25 yr old Pageau is a nice target. A money in the bank 3C for a fair hit and 2 yr term.
- Mr Ricochet

Yes, I have been saying that for a long time now.......EK moving will open the trade gates.

Minor proposal:

Out:
Oesterle
Gustafsson

In:
Pageau

Hawks alleviate some of the overabundance of D-men (and OTT gets some puck movers to help replace EK), and acquire a solid 3C that can take some of the D-pressure off the top lines.
- Chunk

Why would anyone want Oesterle? Or Gustafson for that matter?

Yes lets continue to lament the Panarin trade in spite of the fact that he is now treating Columbus like garbage. Deal with the fact that Panarin only cares about Panarin. Doesn’t care about team or teammates.
- Z3Hawk

Panarin is just looking after his own interests, I have no issue with that. He's set himself up for a monster deal and I hope he gets it.

I still make that deal with Columbus, Saad may have under performed but I believe he'll bounce back. With Hossa's departure the Hawks need an overall player of Saad's caliber. Saad will net 30 goals next season....book it!

I still think the Hawks and OTT are a fit, especially once Karlsson is moved. I think they will need to get to the floor and Hossa is very appealing for the cash strapped owner and a couple of the Hawks' young Dmen would probably slot right in for them. Unfortunately Forsling would be one of those Dmen and I'm not close to giving up on the 22 yr old.

25 yr old Pageau is a nice target. A money in the bank 3C for a fair hit and 2 yr term.
- Mr Ricochet

Considering the amount of time that we have put into developing him, I'm not high on trading Forsling either, but it seems we have about 4 guys with the exact same skillset right now that are close to the NHL.

I'll forgive losing board battles but no effort on the back check is unacceptable when you have as much speed as Duclair. A cadaver on skates....no heart! Vinny is a smurf but busts his backside to get back into a play. Not this goofball....
- phantasmo

Vinny also came to mind for me as a player who gives his all in comparison to Duclair who does not.

Good luck with that. Maybe the Hawks could trade Hossa and half to include a lesser asset, but it's unlikely.

Hopefully Stan is waiting to take advantage of the Karlsson trade once it happens. Ottawa could be looking for some cheap cap hits and Hossa could work perfectly.

I would also add Mitchell to your list of young players that shouldn't go.
- DarthKane

LOL agreed that's an unlikely scenario. UNLESS.... what if Seabs is working his ass off this summer and looks closer like the guy who was once upon a time worth a $7mil cap hit? Maybe, as Beef suggested, someone like LA or SJ who is going all in this year will grab him

Why would anyone want Oesterle? Or Gustafson for that matter?
- Z3Hawk

They are not bad players. They are just not great defensively. Trust me, I lament every time we pick up another offensive defenseman when we have defensive needs. That said, there is definitely a place for them in the league.

EK is not all that great defensively, but he pushes the puck up the ice and generates scoring chances. Being that OTT is getting rid of EK, they could use some more guys in that mold at much lower cap hits.

Justin those trade proposals that you suggested do not help the hawks at all giving up youth for older players does not make any sense in what they are trying to do going forward.

Trade proposals:

AA to Montreal or to the IsLanders for a 2nd and 3rd

2nd and 5th to Winnipeg for Lowery and Lemiux

Hino dahlstrom/forsling hossa's contract and a 3rd ti carolina for faulk
- Scott1977

Nor is trading organizational garbage going to land us Faulk

Panarin is just looking after his own interests, I have no issue with that. He's set himself up for a monster deal and I hope he gets it.

I still make that deal with Columbus, Saad may have under performed but I believe he'll bounce back. With Hossa's departure the Hawks need an overall player of Saad's caliber. Saad will net 30 goals next season....book it!
- DarthKane

I was strongly supportive of the Panarin/Saad trade at the time and continue to be. Saad had an odd off year last year but remains a potentially dominant player.

I will take up the "redeem Stan Bowman" challenge:

Trade 1: Artem Anisimov and Gustav Forsling (or another defenseman) to Montreal for Max Pacioretty and Jacob De La Rose (or Michael Macloud--forgive the spelling)

Rationale: Montreal gets an experienced center and help on the blue line which they need with Shea Weber gone for the forseeable future, and they get rid of their Captain who wants out. Chicago gets a goal scoring winger and a young center prospect with size. If the deal looks unbalanced from the Montreal side I would be willing to add additional prospects/defensemen (Alexander Fortin or Jan Rutta or others).

I also would do this deal without Anisimov/Pacioretty, and go prospect for prospects with Montreal.

I like your three way trade idea with Ottawa/Tampa, and I am not sure I can improve upon it.
- hpk90

Anisimov has very little trade value. Arguably no trade value. Any trade involving him will be completely or largely a contract dump. Likely has to be packaged with other asset(s). Larger contract, injured every year, slow and poor at the dot - not attractive attributes.

However, Anisimov must be moved as Q will again refuse to play him at 3C or 4C where he belongs. Anisimov is NOT a 2C. Actually may be better as a wing.

Anisimov has very little trade value. Arguably no trade value. Any trade involving him will be completely or largely a contract dump. Likely has to be packaged with other asset(s). Larger contract, injured every year, slow and poor at the dot - not attractive attributes.

However, Anisimov must be moved as Q will again refuse to play him at 3C or 4C where he belongs. Anisimov is NOT a 2C. Actually may be better as a wing.
- Z3Hawk

I thought Anisimov was basically playing 3C all last year with Toews and Schmaltz the 1 and 2C's (in whatever order you like).