I've been such a big fan of Stralman for year, was so hoping the Hawks would sign him in 2014 even when they didn't really have space lol, but it's either a big commitment for a guy who will be 33 before a new deal starts or getting rid of assets for nothing much. Honestly, Tampa would be better off seeing if someone would take Giardi with them throwing in a sweetener than moving Stralman, though. Go all for it this season with Hedman, Stralman, Karlsson, and McDonagh. Best top 4 ever??
- L_B_R

With Sergachev as the #5!! ....... the difference in Girardi and Stralman is 1.5 mil. They may need that 1.5 to get Karlsson under the cap?

Not sure of much but am that Stevie Y will make the right move(s). He always does. The way he patiently handled Stamkos and Drouin was masterful.

That sucks!

@frank_seravalli

#Habs announce Shea Weber will miss 5 to 6 months after undergoing surgery in Colorado to repair a torn meniscus in his right knee.
- Justin Lowe

What an awful trafe for them. PK Subban for this guy. Wow.

@JoeSithTB verified twitter

Hearing similar rumblings on #TBLightning being eventual landing spot for Karlsson. Wouldn’t be surprised, though no guarantees with deal of this magnitude. Couple days ago the Stars were considered front runners, per @seanshapiro. TB could get a 3rd team involved to move salary.

Totally agree Darth. We can't lose Saad again. And we can't have the worst LW group in the league.

With regards to Stralman, he's a great shutdown defender with a decent amount of offensive ability. He gets very little PP time so his numbers will always be modest, especially with Hedman and McDonagh taking the lions share. Stralman was an unsung hero for NYR before he got traded, and most people have picked up how smart and efficient of a defender he is since then. He'd be one of the best shutdown replacements for Hammer outside of Marc-Edward Vlasic.
- ObeseOprah

I fully acknowledge that I wear rose-coloured glasses when it comes to Saad, but I hope he plays out all of this contract and his next contract in Chicago.

With Sergachev as the #5!! ....... the difference in Girardi and Stralman is 1.5 mil. They may need that 1.5 to get Karlsson under the cap?

Not sure of much but am that Stevie Y will make the right move(s). He always does. The way he patiently handled Stamkos and Drouin was masterful.
- Mr Ricochet

Maybe. Tampa has $4.4m in space now + $3m for Giradi would bring them up to $7.4m which would cover Karlsson's $6.5m. It'd would be Paquette is gone, though, and be slightly tight but doable. Stralman move would get them more assets, though, obvs.

What an awful trafe for them. PK Subban for this guy. Wow.
- mrpaulish

Yup....if some people think Bowman is a bad GM they should be thankful that MB isn't running the Hawks.

No not giving up on murphy a leader physical d man and young. Hossa forsling hillman and 2021 2nd to Ottawa for smith. Screw tampa not helping them unless its stalman ++

No not giving up on murphy a leader physical d man and young. Hossa forsling hillman and 2021 2nd to Ottawa for smith. Screw tampa not helping them unless its stalman ++
- Scott1977

what about the rights to Stone for that package? then get Paquette and Stalman from Tampa to give them "space"

or if it is Hossa, Forsling, murphy and a 1st, get Ryan @50%, rights to ceci, and Dzingel?

With Sergachev as the #5!! ....... the difference in Girardi and Stralman is 1.5 mil. They may need that 1.5 to get Karlsson under the cap?

Not sure of much but am that Stevie Y will make the right move(s). He always does. The way he patiently handled Stamkos and Drouin was masterful.
- Mr Ricochet

If Karlsson has let it be known that Tampa is the only team he would be willing to move on to, I wouldn't want to be in Pierre Dorion's shoes. Stevie Y will leave him standing there with no underwear, razor blades or deodorant and only the rights to Braydon Coburn and Corey Conacher.

what about the rights to Stone for that package? then get Paquette and Stalman from Tampa to give them "space"

or if it is Hossa, Forsling, murphy and a 1st, get Ryan @50%, rights to ceci, and Dzingel?
- ikeane

Anisimov or Seabrook (unlikely) would have to go to Ottawa if the Hawks got Stone. Stan has made it clear he wants to re-sign Schmaltz and DeBrincat and he wouldn't re-sign Stone if that hurt his ability to do so.

No not giving up on murphy a leader physical d man and young. Hossa forsling hillman and 2021 2nd to Ottawa for smith. Screw tampa not helping them unless its stalman ++
- Scott1977

Someone mentioned this before and I'm beginning to sing this tune...

Why?

If the Hawks are not win now, what problem do they have just carrying Hossa on LTIR during the season? Murphy can develop, our prospects can develop, we have to keep our picks and add. I'm not dropping 2 young defenders and a pick just to move Hossa. Smith does absolutely nothing for us. Carry the cap in LTIR, trade some players who aren't seen as the future, where you can, and work to develop and draft prospects. I think the Hawks have some top talent young guys on the big team, and some guys who can step in shortly. It may not be a full rebuild, which may not be needed, but we could start seeing an upwards trend in a few years. Cap hopefully goes up, with some out our higher caps leaving, and maybe a few prospects pan out big time. Draw in some top FA's as well, and you're off to a good start.

My point is, agreed with who said it before me, why make a trade to get rid of a cap if you're not intending to win now? It not only doesn't serve a purpose, but actually hurts us.

what about the rights to Stone for that package? then get Paquette and Stalman from Tampa to give them "space"

or if it is Hossa, Forsling, murphy and a 1st, get Ryan @50%, rights to ceci, and Dzingel?
- ikeane

Some good ideas there, I would hope it something similar to what you are proposing. I don’t know about giving up on Connor Murphy just yet unless it is to get a young forward back, I would love the rights to stone, or the kid from the northern suburbs here. And I agreed to not help Tampa make them for once overpaid to us. Bowman seems to be the “nice guys finish last “And giving away stuff needlessly.

@SunDoniB

A source who has a great batting average says he feels "very comfortable" with a source that tells him Karlsson will be traded to the #TampaBayLightning

Someone mentioned this before and I'm beginning to sing this tune...

Why?

If the Hawks are not win now, what problem do they have just carrying Hossa on LTIR during the season? Murphy can develop, our prospects can develop, we have to keep our picks and add. I'm not dropping 2 young defenders and a pick just to move Hossa. Smith does absolutely nothing for us. Carry the cap in LTIR, trade some players who aren't seen as the future, where you can, and work to develop and draft prospects. I think the Hawks have some top talent young guys on the big team, and some guys who can step in shortly. It may not be a full rebuild, which may not be needed, but we could start seeing an upwards trend in a few years. Cap hopefully goes up, with some out our higher caps leaving, and maybe a few prospects pan out big time. Draw in some top FA's as well, and you're off to a good start.

My point is, agreed with who said it before me, why make a trade to get rid of a cap if you're not intending to win now? It not only doesn't serve a purpose, but actually hurts us.
- HawksHype

Unless the team does a public “we are full on rebuilding” statement, the team must continue to fill the seats. The season ticket waitlist has been seriously depleted already. Another non-playoff showing will pretty much remove what little luster is left on the team altogether.

Murphy has had well over 200 games to figure it out with multiple coaches. Cya.

The rookies are still too young to be playing NHL hockey. They all need at leadt another full season with Colliton.

You need sevicable NHL caliber depth ar center. Smith fills a hole until guys like Ejdsell are ready.

Getting Stralman gives them needed QUALITY defense (read: NOT Faulk) with flexibility to keep, trade or let go.

I just dont see the downside here.

Unless the team does a public “we are full on rebuilding” statement, the team must continue to fill the seats. The season ticket waitlist has been seriously depleted already. Another non-playoff showing will pretty much remove what little luster is left on the team altogether.

Murphy has had well over 200 games to figure it out with multiple coaches. Cya.

The rookies are still too young to be playing NHL hockey. They all need at leadt another full season with Colliton.

You need sevicable NHL caliber depth ar center. Smith fills a hole until guys like Ejdsell are ready.

Getting Stralman gives them needed QUALITY defense (read: NOT Faulk) with flexibility to keep, trade or let go.

I just dont see the downside here.
- Return of the Roar

We're trading young assets and picks for a team that will finish 9th worst instead of 5th worst. Smith and Stralman do not make our team that much better. I guess I'm opposite and don't see much of an upside.

No not giving up on murphy a leader physical d man and young. Hossa forsling hillman and 2021 2nd to Ottawa for smith. Screw tampa not helping them unless its stalman ++
- Scott1977

You give the worst trade suggestions. Plus learn how to spell and construct a sentence. Jesus christ you're an adult I assume.

We're trading young assets and picks for a team that will finish 9th worst instead of 5th worst. Smith and Stralman do not make our team that much better. I guess I'm opposite and don't see much of an upside.
- HawksHype

I'm kinda in the lets develop our youth. I don't want to trade off Forsling and Murphy or others picks/prospects for a guy who may only be here a year. Lets work with the young D and get them playing time and experience. Next year may suck, but the young players will be that much better 2 years from now.

We're trading young assets and picks for a team that will finish 9th worst instead of 5th worst. Smith and Stralman do not make our team that much better. I guess I'm opposite and don't see much of an upside.
- HawksHype

You are moving an overpaid NHL defenseman who is a bottom pair guy at best after 334 NHL games, and a kid in Forsling who had a taste, showed some flashes, and went back down for more development. Those are the only two names that have been mentioned in today’s rumors.

We have like a hundred other D prospects - all too soon to know their trajectory. That talent pool is Stan’s only source of assets to move.

So if your directive is to make the team better - which it was from the top down - and you don’t, how does that help your fan base’s waning interest?

With Sergachev as the #5!! ....... the difference in Girardi and Stralman is 1.5 mil. They may need that 1.5 to get Karlsson under the cap?

Not sure of much but am that Stevie Y will make the right move(s). He always does. The way he patiently handled Stamkos and Drouin was masterful.
- Mr Ricochet

"Patiently" handled 2 guys that never won a cup.

Love how he keeps making "all the right moves". Too bad winning a cup isnt one of his masterful moves

You are moving an overpaid NHL defenseman who is a bottom pair guy at best after 334 NHL games, and a kid in Forsling who had a taste, showed some flashes, and went back down for more development. Those are the only two names that have been mentioned in today’s rumors.

We have like a hundred other D prospects - all too soon to know their trajectory. That talent pool is Stan’s only source of assets to move.

So if your directive is to make the team better - which it was from the top down - and you don’t, how does that help your fan base’s waning interest?
- Return of the Roar

Because you're trading these 2 players, and a pick, for a defender who will want more money than we'll be able to afford, who won't make a real difference to our on ice product. And fan base:

Trade Hjalmarrson for Murphy (fans hated it)
Murphy used on/off all season (fans hated it)
Forsling (a prospect who can play at the NHL level and is showing some promise)

Trade Murphy/Forsling for Stralman, don't resign him

I think no matter what is done, the fan base is not going to like it.

"Patiently" handled 2 guys that never won a cup.

Love how he keeps making "all the right moves". Too bad winning a cup isnt one of his masterful moves
- PatShart

Yes, but he was able to get Stamkos, who has also never won a Cup, to take a little less money, to bring the band back together to potentially win their (this regime’s) first Cup, which they still haven’t.

"Patiently" handled 2 guys that never won a cup.

Love how he keeps making "all the right moves". Too bad winning a cup isnt one of his masterful moves
- PatShart

So many miss the fact that he let Seth Jones slip right through his fingers, then they traded him for Johanssen, since they were deep with dmen. That's whyit always pays to draft best available

Yes, but he was able to get Stamkos, who has also never won a Cup, to take a little less money, to bring the band back together to potentially win their (this regime’s) first Cup, which they still haven’t.
- HawkintheD

And how much is he paying Johnson, Callahan?

He just gave McDonough a 7yr deal - same cap hit as Seabrook (who won a few things for his team) - and his wont expire until hes 38 with a NTC as well.

Yzerman does it, and doesnt win...but "makes all the right moves".

Apparently Erik Karlsson has just followed Stamkos on twitter...
https://twitter.com/sean_.../1014916669284679682?s=21

Apparently Erik Karlsson has just followed Stamkos on twitter...
https://twitter.com/sean_.../1014916669284679682?s=21
- Marlowe

So does that mean Murphy will be following Bobby Ryan soon?