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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 3 @ 10:53 PM ET
Don't know if Bowman could swing it, but adding Faulk without giving up AA or Murphy makes them a better team doesn't it? Who ya gonna plug in as the second line center, because I pretty much think Q has AA playing there and Schmaltz on the wing somewhere. Unless your getting Rask back also , AA is a pretty solid #2 center at this point.
And ya gotta think the league will adjust to little kitty boy and pound the body on him every chance they get. He'll be up to the task but Schmaltz will turtle or pull up and let an opponent get the puck. Hopefully Saad puts his big 220 lb.ass to work . Cause right now they're pretty small.
I would like Faulk without having to give up AA. If ya trade Murphy , your stuck with that stiff aoesterle probably then.

- wonthecup10


I don't even know what to say...other than please keep posting.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jul 3 @ 10:54 PM ET
I get why people are talking about Faulk because he is RD and available but does he solve the problem we are looking to solve on the back end?

I could be out to lunch on this but I feel like the problem is not having enough Dmen who can actually defend well, because we've got dmen who can produce offense. Faulk isn't a shutdown guy or a guy who IMO excels at preventing goals. I really hope he isn't the trade target for the Hawks. They need someone better at defense.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 3 @ 10:54 PM ET
With the current stable of Hawk forwards, how about the following line-up. The first 3 lines have skill and some grit while the fourth line can actually intimidate the other teams D for once.


DeBrincat - Toews - Hayden

Saad - Schmaltz - Kane

Kunitz - Anisimov - Hinostroza

Martinsen - Kampf - Bouma

First 3 lines fairly well balanced. The 4th line can hit.

Sikura and Hightower and Ejdsell can develop in the Rock.

- Gary0301

I like the idea of 3 lines with skill and a gritty banger line. Though, I would prefer that the 3rd line be a checking line (with skill) to help take pressure off of Toews to lead both a checking line and try to score as a top-6 unit.

Don't think Bouma returns but I get what you are getting at with the type of wingers should be on the 4th line. Wingels would be nice but someone else wondered if he's not 100% from the head injury he suffered in the playoffs, so maybe teams are wary of signing him at this point in time.

As for Hightower, I think you meant Highmore. Hightower from Police Academy would kick ass, though.



Sign Zed to add some crazy, put him and Hightower together on that 4th line, then let them loose. Heck, they wouldn't even need a 3rd linemate.

Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 3 @ 10:58 PM ET
I get why people are talking about Faulk because he is RD and available but does he solve the problem we are looking to solve on the back end?

I could be out to lunch on this but I feel like the problem is not having enough Dmen who can actually defend well, because we've got dmen who can produce offense. Faulk isn't a shutdown guy or a guy who IMO excels at preventing goals. I really hope he isn't the trade target for the Hawks. They need someone better at defense.

- breadbag

That's my take as well. If more blueliners are being added, the Hawks need ones who can play solid defense on a consistent basis. If they can be a puck carrier, too, then even better. But we have way too many offensively-minded D-men who either can't play defense well or just don't care to defend if they had their druthers.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 3 @ 11:00 PM ET
My guy de Haan gooooonee!

Knew the Hawks weren't going to sign him.

Nice signing for the Canes. Their D is looking great.

- Justin Lowe

Canes lost Hanifin but are even stronger on defense with the additions of Hamilton and de Haan to an already young solid core of Slavin, Pesce, Fleury, Bean, and van Riemsdyk. Faulk, too, but the writing may be on the wall that he's on the outs to another team.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jul 3 @ 11:08 PM ET
I like the idea of 3 lines with skill and a gritty banger line. Though, I would prefer that the 3rd line be a checking line (with skill) to help take pressure off of Toews to lead both a checking line and try to score as a top-6 unit.

Don't think Bouma returns but I get what you are getting at with the type of wingers should be on the 4th line. Wingels would be nice but someone else wondered if he's not 100% from the head injury he suffered in the playoffs, so maybe teams are wary of signing him at this point in time.

As for Hightower, I think you meant Highmore. Hightower from Police Academy would kick ass, though.



Sign Zed to add some crazy, put him and Hightower together on that 4th line, then let them loose. Heck, they wouldn't even need a 3rd linemate.


- AEL_Fox

LeBron and Hightower!
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 3 @ 11:13 PM ET
Don't know if Bowman could swing it, but adding Faulk without giving up AA or Murphy makes them a better team doesn't it? Who ya gonna plug in as the second line center, because I pretty much think Q has AA playing there and Schmaltz on the wing somewhere. Unless your getting Rask back also , AA is a pretty solid #2 center at this point.
And ya gotta think the league will adjust to little kitty boy and pound the body on him every chance they get. He'll be up to the task but Schmaltz will turtle or pull up and let an opponent get the puck. Hopefully Saad puts his big 220 lb.ass to work . Cause right now they're pretty small.
I would like Faulk without having to give up AA. If ya trade Murphy , your stuck with that stiff aoesterle probably then.

- wonthecup10


Saad is listed 6’1” 205lbs on nhl.com
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:31 PM ET
Saad is listed 6’1” 205lbs on nhl.com
- EnzoD


Amero-smurf or is that a reasonably pallatable amount of size?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:41 PM ET
Amero-smurf or is that a reasonably pallatable amount of size?
- HawkintheD



Puny by Canadian standards.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:52 PM ET
Canes lost Hanifin but are even stronger on defense with the additions of Hamilton and de Haan to an already young solid core of Slavin, Pesce, Fleury, Bean, and van Riemsdyk. Faulk, too, but the writing may be on the wall that he's on the outs to another team.
- AEL_Fox



I'm wondering if TvR is the odd man out, not Faulk.
frafra
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jul 3 @ 11:55 PM ET
I'm wondering if TvR is the odd man out, not Faulk.
- DarthKane



Stan's big trade...the move we have all been waiting for...

#TVRtime
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 3 @ 11:59 PM ET
Puny by Canadian standards.
- DarthKane



Now is this rugged hard nosed western standards or the girly man eastern standards?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:59 PM ET
Stan's big trade...the move we have all been waiting for...

#TVRtime

- frafra


He'd be an upgrade over most of the current defensemen on the roster.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 4 @ 12:00 AM ET
Now is this rugged hard nosed western standards or the girly man eastern standards?
- Beaver-Warrior


Rugged Western standards....is there any point in making any other comparison?
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:04 AM ET
Rugged Western standards....is there any point in making any other comparison?
- DarthKane

Point taken.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:06 AM ET
Amero-smurf or is that a reasonably pallatable amount of size?
- HawkintheD


Belgian at best.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 4 @ 12:14 AM ET
I'm just waiting for a day this summer like June 23, 2017 where Stan drops a couple bombshells and makes some major moves.

Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jul 4 @ 12:21 AM ET
That's my take as well. If more blueliners are being added, the Hawks need ones who can play solid defense on a consistent basis. If they can be a puck carrier, too, then even better. But we have way too many offensively-minded D-men who either can't play defense well or just don't care to defend if they had their druthers.
- AEL_Fox

You saying the Hawks couldn’t use a true top 4 (likely top pairing on this D) Dman who can QB the PP? I think Faulk would work out just fine. Not like they have a whole lot of choices either.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 4 @ 12:22 AM ET
I'm wondering if TvR is the odd man out, not Faulk.
- DarthKane

Quite possible. If so, I would be open to reacquire van Riemsdyk as he's more defensively minded and sound so fills the more pressing need.

Faulk would be a good add if the overall team defense improves since he is a great PP quarterback and may be the spark plug needed to rejuvenate the man advantage. But is there enough cap space to to beef up the defensive talent and add a player of Faulk's caliber? That doesn't even count the need to ideally acquire a checking center.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 4 @ 12:23 AM ET
He'd be an upgrade over most of the current defensemen on the roster.
- DarthKane

Agreed, and that would even count newly acquired Manning.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 4 @ 12:29 AM ET
You saying the Hawks couldn’t use a true top 4 (likely top pairing on this D) Dman who can QB the PP? I think Faulk would work out just fine. Not like they have a whole lot of choices either.
- Marlowe

Definitely would like to add a PP specialist in Faulk who is a top 4 talent. He would jump start the woeful PP to at least get to middle of the pack. In an ideal world, having Faulk plus a top-4 defensive defensemen would be killer but not sure if there's enough money to do both and fill needs at forward.

If I had to choose, though, between a top-4 defensive defensemen and a top-4 offensive defensmen, I'd go with the former because the Hawks don't have anyone in the system who fits that bill (at least not someone who is ready to step in this fall). The team could potentially fill the latter in house with Gustafsson or Oesterle even.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 4 @ 12:30 AM ET
Amero-smurf or is that a reasonably pallatable amount of size?
- HawkintheD




EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 4 @ 12:34 AM ET
Puny by Canadian standards.
- DarthKane


https://www.nytimes.com/2...-cold-war-got-colder.html

sorry if you're offended, but the NY Times agrees with my sentiment yesterday regarding "Canadian-style hockey"

From the NYT....

"two hockey styles clashed: the swift, precise and contact-averse game of the Soviets against the dogged, rugged, punishing game of the Canadians."



EDIT: My point was that the Canadian style of play has always been viewed as the more physical to the US and especially Euro style. Look at the physicality/fighting in the CHL vs cages, and no fighting in Euro Jr and USA College hockey.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 4 @ 12:39 AM ET
https://www.nytimes.com/2...-cold-war-got-colder.html

sorry if you're offended, but the NY Times agrees with my sentiment yesterday regarding "Canadian-style hockey"

From the NYT....

"two hockey styles clashed: the swift, precise and contact-averse game of the Soviets against the dogged, rugged, punishing game of the Canadians."


- EnzoD

Don't let Drago read that article.



DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 4 @ 1:02 AM ET
https://www.nytimes.com/2...-cold-war-got-colder.html

sorry if you're offended, but the NY Times agrees with my sentiment yesterday regarding "Canadian-style hockey"

From the NYT....

"two hockey styles clashed: the swift, precise and contact-averse game of the Soviets against the dogged, rugged, punishing game of the Canadians."



EDIT: My point was that the Canadian style of play has always been viewed as the more physical to the US and especially Euro style. Look at the physicality/fighting in the CHL vs cages, and no fighting in Euro Jr and USA College hockey.

- EnzoD



The story in this article is just a wee bit out of date.

Canadians are all about skilled hockey and an entertaining game. Guys like McDavid and Crosby are on the top of the must see list, not guys like Lucic or Matt Martin.
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