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Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 1 @ 12:09 PM ET
Manning to Chicago. I actually do like him, but he's really a third pairing guy. Hawks have like 15 of them.
- kwolf68


Manning is solid but you're right... need a top 4 guy not bottom pairing.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:09 PM ET
Stan's UFA strategy:

blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:09 PM ET
@PierreVLeBrun

42 seconds ago

Jonathan Bernier in Detroit, 3 x $3 M aav
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 1 @ 12:11 PM ET
Stan's UFA strategy:


- DarthKane


Hahahaha
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:11 PM ET
Manning is solid but you're right... need a top 4 guy not bottom pairing.
- Justin Lowe


Justin---I think bringing in Manning HAS to say other pieces will fall. With all these third pairing guys, someone has to be moved I'd think.

Manning can not play against top lines, but very serviceable in the right role and does play tough and gritty, has high character. Lot to like about him, but he has a very low ceiling as a player.

Connor Murphy looks like the odd man out from my eyes. Unless they think he can skate Top 4 minutes?
Hawksfan37
Joined: 05.11.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:12 PM ET
Manning makes what, about 6 or 7 bottom pairing Dmen now?

Gotta think that barring a signing a significant F, any improvements will come via trade. The Manning signing seems like it's a backfill type move for a depth Dman getting dealt.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:12 PM ET
Manning is solid but you're right... need a top 4 guy not bottom pairing.
- Justin Lowe

I thought the Hawks had more than enough bottom 2 dmen already. Don’t get it...

EDIT I forgot the context thing. Hoping the rest of y’all are correct that this means there are deals out there that will include dealing away some depth D
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:12 PM ET
Manning is solid but you're right... need a top 4 guy not bottom pairing.
- Justin Lowe

The Flyers feedback isn't very positive.

He's hard working, stands up for his teammates, and gives great effort, but not very talented and not a loss at all. Nothing more than a #6/#7 which is something this team already has ample of.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:12 PM ET
I thought the Hawks had more than enough bottom 2 dmen already. Don’t get it...
- Marlowe


ONLY possible rationale is someone is on the move.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:13 PM ET
Justin---I think bringing in Manning HAS to say other pieces will fall. With all these third pairing guys, someone has to be moved I'd think.

Manning can not play against top lines, but very serviceable in the right role and does play tough and gritty, has high character. Lot to like about him, but he has a very low ceiling as a player.

Connor Murphy looks like the odd man out from my eyes. Unless they think he can skate Top 4 minutes?

- kwolf68

And Murphy was brought in to replace Hammer, at $250k less cap hit, but two more years in term. hmmmm....
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:13 PM ET
The Flyers feedback isn't very positive.

He's hard working, stands up for his teammates, and gives great effort, but not very talented and not a loss at all. Nothing more than a #6/#7 which is something this team already has ample of.

- TommyHawk


Flyers will probably bring in deHaan now.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
looks like Kunitz cap hit is $1M.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
Manning makes what, about 6 or 7 bottom pairing Dmen now?

Gotta think that barring a signing a significant F, any improvements will come via trade. The Manning signing seems like it's a backfill type move for a depth Dman getting dealt.

- Hawksfan37



Manning averaged about 18 minutes with the Flyers...Q will turn that into a healthy scratch status by Canadian Thanksgiving.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
looks like Kunitz cap hit is $1M.
- blackhawk24

Can live with that for a year.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
And Murphy was brought in to replace Hammer, at $250k less cap hit, but two more years in term. hmmmm....
- blackhawk24


Not saying I like it. But Manning and Murphy are similar. My issue is Murphy has more upside. But maybe it's about salary. Hell, I don't know what this GM is thinking, haven't for a long time. There is time to sort things out though.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
@MarkLazerus

1 minute ago

Blackhawks Twitter very excited about all three signings, I see...

----

Any time now, we get the SB, "I like our team" presser....
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
So $3 mil for Ward; $1 mil for Kunitz.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
Zawaski:

The Blackhawks have called a noon conference call with all three new signings. Typically this would indicate they're done for the day, but who knows.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:17 PM ET
Manning is solid but you're right... need a top 4 guy not bottom pairing.
- Justin Lowe


28 yr old left shot, 6ft 1in 205 lbs, TOI last yr at Philly 17:57, 1:26 PK TOI, signed thru 2019/2020. From Elite prospects: https://www.eliteprospect...yer/23346/brandon-manning

Manning is a two-way defenseman with good skating and passing ability. He can also play a very phyiscal game, and fight.
- Erik K. Piri, EP (2013)
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:18 PM ET
Joakim Nordstrom has agreed to a two year deal with the Boston Bruins. $2 mil aav.

#BlackhawksLegend
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:18 PM ET
Zawaski:

The Blackhawks have called a noon conference call with all three new signings. Typically this would indicate they're done for the day, but who knows.

- mrpaulish

Even sooner than I thought. OK, I can be done with that, listen to the ballgame, while watching my brisket on the smoker.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:19 PM ET
Zawaski:

The Blackhawks have called a noon conference call with all three new signings. Typically this would indicate they're done for the day, but who knows.

- mrpaulish


As long as other teams don't let their top forward line play, our defense should be OK.

It simply can't be possible the Hawks are fine with this defensive unit? I am going to go on the belief that another deal(s) is coming to address the Hawks weaknesses. Adding fourth line winger, bottom pairing D does not do poop to really deal with this team. The backup goalie I get...I guess, but what happened to Forsberg? You telling me the Hawks now realize that guy sucks?
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:19 PM ET
As long as other teams don't let their top forward line play, our defense should be OK.

It simply can't be possible the Hawks are fine with this defensive unit? I am going to go on the belief that another deal(s) is coming to address the Hawks weaknesses. Adding fourth line winger, bottom pairing D does not do poop to really deal with this team. The backup goalie I get...I guess, but what happened to Forsberg? You telling me the Hawks now realize that guy sucks?

- kwolf68



Lol
SecondCitySavage
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.22.2018

Jul 1 @ 12:20 PM ET
Guess Tampa is out on Karlsson and possibly Tavares signing McDonough to a 7 year extension, $6 mil + AAV.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:20 PM ET
Not saying I like it. But Manning and Murphy are similar. My issue is Murphy has more upside. But maybe it's about salary. Hell, I don't know what this GM is thinking, haven't for a long time. There is time to sort things out though.
- kwolf68

I don't either. How many of us do? What I see is a team missing a #3 and I am being nice putting Seabs at #2 even though it is obvious he won't skate with Duncs.
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