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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:15 PM ET
Was curious what kind of contract Ward was looking for. 2.5 is doable for him.
- z1990z

I am sure it is. He isn't worth it, though. Ward is a huge reason why Carolina hasn't made the playoffs in forever. He's not good.

3 games and everyone will be clamoring for his head.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:17 PM ET
In case you missed it / aren't in the area:

TSN 1050 radio, Toronto - Bob McKenzie, "some things are for certain, Plekanec is going back to Montreal and Cam Ward is signing with Chicago."

- Justin Lowe

Uggh.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:20 PM ET
Bergevin is in way over his head.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:23 PM ET
Bergevin is in way over his head.
- Elbows15



Cant believe they passed on Zadina
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:24 PM ET
Next year will be one long dog poop season.

Maybe after another last place finish we can finally jettison the likes of Bowman, Q and if were lucky Seabs and Toews and really start a rebuild.

This band aid crap is going nowhere fast.

- Hawkster


It's always fun to stick a fork in your team months before the season starts. I remember the band aid crap going nowhere fast and then they won two more Cups. Different times and all but maybe a puck or two could drop and things could play out a little before they are labelled a pile of steaming horse poop...just saying.

Enzo was right. He's Mr. (frank)ing Sunshine compared to you.
Colbyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 12.14.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:27 PM ET
Isn’t Jack Johnson an option for the Hawks
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:27 PM ET
Really not looking for an argument, but what other UFA goalies was an established Nhl starter, and won a Cup?
Did you think the hawks were looking for a replacement for Forsberg, or Crawford?

If it was Crawford, did you REALLY think you were gonna find a minute eating starter in free agency?

Tell me last time that happened!

Sheesh!
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:29 PM ET
I am sure it is. He isn't worth it, though. Ward is a huge reason why Carolina hasn't made the playoffs in forever. He's not good.

3 games and everyone will be clamoring for his head.

- Elbows15
. so, now we are discussing the salary of a player who isn’t available until Sunday....unbelievable
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:36 PM ET
That was not for you Darth

It was for JL who had the sweet trade offer

Sorry to disappoint you

- Goalie-33


That's right troll - keep digging that hole deeper......
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:38 PM ET
Well Goalie-33 is violating #5 of the CoC insulting the blogger. Let's see if Makita follows through with his claim of being consistent with enforcement of this policy.
- BGKarras


I don't know BG - Makita said he and Justin have talked about doing something about him - but that's all they do is talk......
Savoy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spencer, NC
Joined: 01.15.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:39 PM ET
Will you ever let go and move on from Panarin getting traded or will it be 2017 for you forever?
- PatShart

Forward to June 2018. Bowman has not even tried to replace Panarin, why not? Oh wait, is it because Panarin is a superstar and they don't come available very often? Bowman got about one fourth value for a superstar and now it looks like the money is going to be there to have signed Panarin after all as I predicted. Second worst trade in Blackhawk history closing in on being the worst trade in Blackhawk history. Bowman has had a lot of time to replace Panarin but has failed miserably and has subsequently managed this team to last place. Unacceptable. Period.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jun 27 @ 9:44 PM ET
Forward to June 2018. Bowman has not even tried to replace Panarin, why not? Oh wait, is it because Panarin is a superstar and they don't come available very often? Bowman got about one fourth value for a superstar and now it looks like the money is going to be there to have signed Panarin after all as I predicted. Second worst trade in Blackhawk history closing in on being the worst trade in Blackhawk history. Bowman has had a lot of time to replace Panarin but has failed miserably and has subsequently managed this team to last place. Unacceptable. Period.
- Savoy


Ok. But you never answered my question
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:44 PM ET
Forward to June 2018. Bowman has not even tried to replace Panarin, why not? Oh wait, is it because Panarin is a superstar and they don't come available very often? Bowman got about one fourth value for a superstar and now it looks like the money is going to be there to have signed Panarin after all as I predicted. Second worst trade in Blackhawk history closing in on being the worst trade in Blackhawk history. Bowman has had a lot of time to replace Panarin but has failed miserably and has subsequently managed this team to last place. Unacceptable. Period.
- Savoy


You are so unbelievably clueless when it comes to Panarin.

When Washington started to play big boy hockey - Panarin did his usual spring disappearing act. The last four games of that series - Panarin had 0 points and was a -6.

So please just get over your man love with him. There is a reason why he was traded - and a reason why Columbus is in no hurry to resign him.

If a contending team pays him - it will cost that G.M. his job.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:47 PM ET
Really not looking for an argument, but what other UFA goalies was an established Nhl starter, and won a Cup?
Did you think the hawks were looking for a replacement for Forsberg, or Crawford?

If it was Crawford, did you REALLY think you were gonna find a minute eating starter in free agency?

Tell me last time that happened!

Sheesh!

- wiz1901

If happen for sure that ward signs with the hawks its a win for the hawks experience vet with playoff and cup credentials good move and underrated. Now fix the center and d
Savoy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spencer, NC
Joined: 01.15.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:49 PM ET
Ok. But you never answered my question
- PatShart

I'm sure as Bowman apologist number one , you'd love for this to go away. So when are you going to quit being Bowman's Aunt Patty?
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:49 PM ET
One guy - Tavares, Panarin, O’Reilly, Kalrsson....all share the same problem - too much money for not enough help.

One guy not enough to solve all of the problems. Another albatross contract on this roster as it stands and they are toast for another two-four years.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:49 PM ET
Forward to June 2018. Bowman has not even tried to replace Panarin, why not? Oh wait, is it because Panarin is a superstar and they don't come available very often? Bowman got about one fourth value for a superstar and now it looks like the money is going to be there to have signed Panarin after all as I predicted. Second worst trade in Blackhawk history closing in on being the worst trade in Blackhawk history. Bowman has had a lot of time to replace Panarin but has failed miserably and has subsequently managed this team to last place. Unacceptable. Period.
- Savoy


Study a little Hawk history instead of peddling this bullpoop. Phil Esposito >>>>>> than Little Artie all day long. Add in Ken Hodge and Fred Stanfield and there's your worst trade by a country mile or ten.

Saad for panarin may not have been a great trade last year but it's nowhere near the Hawks worst trade and will never ever be the worst trade. When Panarin wins a bunch of scoring titles and a few Cups with another team...maybe then.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jun 27 @ 9:51 PM ET
I'm sure as Bowman apologist number one , you'd love for this to go away. So when are you going to quit being Bowman's Aunt Patty?
- Savoy


Again. Will you ever let it go and move on? Simple question
Savoy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spencer, NC
Joined: 01.15.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:52 PM ET
You are so unbelievably clueless when it comes to Panarin.

When Washington started to play big boy hockey - Panarin did his usual spring disappearing act. The last four games of that series - Panarin had 0 points and was a -6.

So please just get over your man love with him. There is a reason why he was traded - and a reason why Columbus is in no hurry to resign him.

If a contending team pays him - it will cost that G.M. his job.

- dahawks8819

You miss the point. Anybody can get traded. Success depends on what you get in return.
Savoy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spencer, NC
Joined: 01.15.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:53 PM ET
Again. Will you ever let it go and move on? Simple question
- PatShart

Hey I'm sorry to be in your head to this extent for this long. Try to remain calm.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:00 PM ET
Really not looking for an argument, but what other UFA goalies was an established Nhl starter, and won a Cup?
Did you think the hawks were looking for a replacement for Forsberg, or Crawford?

If it was Crawford, did you REALLY think you were gonna find a minute eating starter in free agency?

Tell me last time that happened!

Sheesh!

- wiz1901

This ^.

Just want to add that the fact that they are bringing in a 34-year-old on a [likely] one year deal signifies that they are looking for a short-term solution in case something were to happen again with Crawford. I think the front office isn't bluffing when they say that they expect Crawford to be back to normal by the start of training camp.

Since he's got two more years left on his contract, the 'Hawks could re-consider their starting goalie options as early as next season when we'll know if this team bounced back, or if they have another horrendous season and moving Crawford who would have only one year left on his deal becomes much more palpable.
Savoy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spencer, NC
Joined: 01.15.2014

Jun 27 @ 10:16 PM ET
Study a little Hawk history instead of peddling this bullpoop. Phil Esposito >>>>>> than Little Artie all day long. Add in Ken Hodge and Fred Stanfield and there's your worst trade by a country mile or ten.

Saad for panarin may not have been a great trade last year but it's nowhere near the Hawks worst trade and will never ever be the worst trade. When Panarin wins a bunch of scoring titles and a few Cups with another team...maybe then.

- HawkintheD

You make a good point I was around for that trade but add in first to last place not a coincidence, breaking up probably the highest scoring line in the NHL for nothing and what it did to Kane's performance this last year and entirely missing the playoffs while Panarin was recognized as the sole reason his team got to the playoffs and Panarin's subsequent recognition as a top five winger in the NHL. Not the wort trade IMO the second worst trade. Some hockey folks actually wrote that the Kempny trade was the most one sided in history. Remember that?
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jun 27 @ 10:17 PM ET
Isn’t Jack Johnson an option for the Hawks
- Colbyboy


Nope - Pittsburgh bound.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:18 PM ET
This ^.

Just want to add that the fact that they are bringing in a 34-year-old on a

- TommyHawk[likely] one year deal signifies that they are looking for a short-term solution in case something were to happen again with Crawford. I think the front office isn't bluffing when they say that they expect Crawford to be back to normal by the start of training camp.

Since he's got two more years left on his contract, the 'Hawks could re-consider their starting goalie options as early as next season when we'll know if this team bounced back, or if they have another horrendous season and moving Crawford who would have only one year left on his deal becomes much more palpable.


Moving CC is only an option if he does in fact come back and plays to form. If he doesn’t no one will want him and they still have another year after 2018-19 to eat $6MM.

I am convinced he is fine and will be coming back. If they honestly did not think so they would not be looking to Cam Ward as the guy to carry the load. Ward is better than any of the guys in Rockford by a stretch, but there are many other goalies out there who are much better (and more expensive, wNting longer term) than Ward. They are targeting him because the goalie depth after Crawford is AHL level at best, and Ward is an upgrade that will likely sign a one year deal.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:19 PM ET
Considering their comments and who they are attempting to sign, I have this atrange feeling that in day one of the season the Hawks are going to be putting CC on LTIR. Ward in a one year deal and wanting to keep Forsberg. I’m guessing that they are assuming that CC won’t be back at least to start the year.
- Chunk


Was posited in The Athletic. Hawks put Crow on IR and the opening night goalies are Ward and Forsberg.
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