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Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Jun 28 @ 5:35 PM ET
Hey, BG. You must have missed vopatsrash apology to the board when the Preds failed to win the cup. I am sure his apology was very sincere. I didn’t catch it myself; it must have come in on a day that I didn’t check the blog. I am sure a decent, respectful guy like him had to have sent it. Really sorry I meant saws it.
- Spec41971


Anybody have this? Would like to see it...
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Jun 28 @ 5:36 PM ET
This has nothing to do with Panarin not liking the pierogies and borscht in Columbus.

Any agent would wait to see what James Neal, JVR and Paccioretty get on the open market in the next couple of weeks. And they already knows what Evander Kane and Kovalchuk got and how much Lucic makes.

Panarin is going to get $9-10M from somebody eventually.

- RickJ


Personally would not begrudge him every penny he could get. Can’t imagine too many posters on this board — and I am including myself— would turn down a salary increase of 30 to 50 percent, especially when that percentage translates to several millions of dollars.
stonefire
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Prague
Joined: 10.22.2006

Jun 28 @ 5:39 PM ET
And again, people on here are super ready to move Anisimov when that description of net front presence / screen fits him to a tee. Those who clamor for Lucic should be happy with a cheaper version in Anisimov who has less term, should they not?
- L_B_R


My only problem with Anisimov is that he is a center who has trouble winning faceoffs. And with Schmaltz being weak in the dot too, that is an issue which needs to be fixed. I have no problem with AA on the wing, he is an useful player overall. But there is competition on the wings and other factors in play.
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Jun 28 @ 5:42 PM ET
We are working on it, I'm not sure why there is an anonymous tough guy mentality that the only reason is to disrupt the boards.

Best course of action is to ignore the BS post and engage with the posters that want to discuss hockey.

Any issues let Justin know and he'll contact of of the refs for assistance.

- Makita


For the same reason a person would never consider cutting in front of you while you are standing quietly in line for a movie but doesn’t hesitate to cut you off on the highway driving home. It’s too easy for someone who’s really a dirtbag to hide behind the anonymity of the Internet.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 28 @ 5:42 PM ET
Could be that something comes back with Faulk that isn't Darling (please, God).

How about Faulk and highly-rated D/Center prospect and a pick or something?

Would rather get a ready-to-contribute-now piece along with Faulk, but just brainstorming.

- Hank3Henshaw

Carolina is looking for centers, especially after having to move Lindholm due to contract demand, so they're not likely going to give away their center prospects. They don't have that many, either - Necas (not happening), Roy (highly unlikely), and Saarela (seems lower line quality). They'd be more likely to move from their defense prospect pool but idk how much - Fleury is who they want to replace Hanifin in the top 4 next season, Bean and Fox seem untouchable. McKeown might be the one they might part with but idk if he's projected above bottom pair.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 28 @ 5:45 PM ET
My only problem with Anisimov is that he is a center who has trouble winning faceoffs. And with Schmaltz being weak in the dot too, that is an issue which needs to be fixed. I have no problem with AA on the wing, he is an useful player overall. But there is competition on the wings and other factors in play.
- stonefire

My comment wasn't about Anisimov in a vacuum - it was in context of people wanting Lucic for potential net front presence when Anisimov already does this at a lower cap hit / with less term / and not NMC starting 7/1. If there is already competition on the wings preventing AA from being moved there, then there is no place for Lucic there either. That was my only point.
stonefire
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Prague
Joined: 10.22.2006

Jun 28 @ 5:55 PM ET
My comment wasn't about Anisimov in a vacuum - it was in context of people wanting Lucic for potential net front presence when Anisimov already does this at a lower cap hit / with less term / and not NMC starting 7/1. If there is already competition on the wings preventing AA from being moved there, then there is no place for Lucic there either. That was my only point.
- L_B_R


I agree, but IMO it is more about Lucic being considered Top 6 player (not in my eyes, though), while AA is more of a Top 9 guy. Their style of play isn't the thing being compared.
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Jun 28 @ 6:02 PM ET
My comment wasn't about Anisimov in a vacuum - it was in context of people wanting Lucic for potential net front presence when Anisimov already does this at a lower cap hit / with less term / and not NMC starting 7/1. If there is already competition on the wings preventing AA from being moved there, then there is no place for Lucic there either. That was my only point.
- L_B_R



Well, this is probably a moot point and I am hoping they’re setting their sites on someone like JVR,Milan Lucic ,If he stayed true to his word at the end of last season about to come to camp 15 to 20 pounds lighter that probably could make him some one more effective, also to the hockey Purist old schoolers like myself and Vandemere 23,If need be, because I think a bunch of five-year-olds that are also in preschool are tougher than anything the bLACKHAWKS put on the ice now,Looch is probably still one of the top 10 fighters in the league. I am neutral on this whole thing on whether the Blackhawks are in on this or not. Like I said I’d rather see them set their sights on others that are high-end and are younger. But then again I think Lucic is only like 30 years old or 31.[/img]
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 6:07 PM ET
I'm hearing a 1-year deal.

If that's the case I can see it being in the 2.5-3M range.

- Justin Lowe

He is lucky anyone is even offering him a contract.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 28 @ 6:10 PM ET
My comment wasn't about Anisimov in a vacuum - it was in context of people wanting Lucic for potential net front presence when Anisimov already does this at a lower cap hit / with less term / and not NMC starting 7/1. If there is already competition on the wings preventing AA from being moved there, then there is no place for Lucic there either. That was my only point.
- L_B_R


Count me in for not wanting Lucic (my earlier comment more about "if they did trade for him, they'd have to ship out a similar contract" but I don't want him on the team).

I'm probably one of the biggest AA critics, but I'll add that I'm okay with him here in the right context. I think he is okay if they keep in playing in the offensive zone, but I didn't like him playing 3rd line or any time he was kind of in the shutdown role. I thought his line struggled to transition or escape their own end. When he was playing with Kane and the opposing team went "Power on Power" matching top offensive lines I was really underwhelmed by AA and I think it drags Kane down.

For a big guy, he is kind of soft (he right between Kane and Schmaltz in terms of the hits he threw last year) and I don't find he is actually tough to play against. Most of the reason I hope he would be traded, is that I think Panarin/Kane drove up his value in terms of what they could have gotten in return, but his cap hit isn't so high. If they keep him, I think they need to give the Dzone responsibility to someone else and just use him as like a PP specialist and offensive zone presence in front of the net. Anyway, this is just my opinion watching him play and maybe that injury in 2017 took a lot out of him. Maybe playing wing will be his future.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 6:10 PM ET
I'd like Bingo or some Carolina fans to chime in on this.

All I see is "Faulk sucks" stuff. I'm not exactly buying it. I haven't watched enough Hurricanes games to write this guy off as a jobber or jabroni.

Gotta' believe getting Faulk is an instant upgrade on the blueline.

- Hank3Henshaw

His play has fallen off considerably the last two seasons. Especially in his own zone. Course when Ward is letting in every mistake, maybe Faulk has become hesitant.
Faulk has definitely been bypassed by Slavin and Pesce.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 6:12 PM ET
He's retired because he's 40 years old.
- vandymeer23

And sucks. don't forget that part.
Hawkytalk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Frankfort, IL
Joined: 06.26.2012

Jun 28 @ 6:26 PM ET
I'd like Bingo or some Carolina fans to chime in on this.

All I see is "Faulk sucks" stuff. I'm not exactly buying it. I haven't watched enough Hurricanes games to write this guy off as a jobber or jabroni.

Gotta' believe getting Faulk is an instant upgrade on the blueline.

- Hank3Henshaw


Maybe......for Jurco......NOT Saad. Lol
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 28 @ 8:03 PM ET
He is lucky anyone is even offering him a contract.
- Elbows15



Maybe Stan can lock him up long-term, say 3 or 4 years. Throw in a NTC for good measure.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 28 @ 8:07 PM ET
His play has fallen off considerably the last two seasons. Especially in his own zone. Course when Ward is letting in every mistake, maybe Faulk has become hesitant.
Faulk has definitely been bypassed by Slavin and Pesce.

- Elbows15


Or maybe just maybe Carolina s defense just sucks? Let's see they just traded away Slavin looking to deal Faulk? Tells me the new owner thinks they're garbage. Oops i meant Hanifin, doh
HamiltonHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.13.2015

Jun 28 @ 8:23 PM ET
No way I give up Saad for Faulk and I can'tbelieve Bowman is thinking of paying Ward 2.5 to 3 million. I don't care If is for only 1 year. Don't want to be negative but I am not liking any of the rumours I'm reading
HamiltonHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.13.2015

Jun 28 @ 8:25 PM ET
Maybe Stan can lock him up long-term, say 3 or 4 years. Throw in a NTC for good measure.
- DarthKane

If only this was funny and not potentially something that might happen
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jun 28 @ 8:48 PM ET
What is the CBA rules about players who do not have cap penalty contracts retiring before the contract is up? I am just wondering, what if Crow has a injury that he feels like he does not want to chance further health issues? Can he walk away right now, without financial obligations from the team? Maybe Seabs retires before his term completes.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 28 @ 8:54 PM ET
Looking back at some past drafts for the Hawks....still waiting on Pavel Vorobiev. Stan should sign him, he is only 36 now. Man that 2000 draft class was something else for the Hawks. 15 picks including the 10th and 11th overall and Vorobiev had the most NHL games of all of them with 57.

Mikhail Yakubov
Pavel Vorobiev
Jonas Nordquist
Igor Radulov

What a group!
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 28 @ 8:54 PM ET
What is the CBA rules about players who do not have cap penalty contracts retiring before the contract is up? I am just wondering, what if Crow has a injury that he feels like he does not want to chance further health issues? Can he walk away right now, without financial obligations from the team? Maybe Seabs retires before his term completes.
- powerenforcer


If he was injured he would go on LTIR and be fully paid. He would not walk away or retire.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Jun 28 @ 9:04 PM ET
The Hawks will be below .500 by December, and Q qill get launched. From then on out, there will be a youth movement, and we can look forward to the 2019 draft. Lose for Hughes

https://www.youtube.com/w...ontinue=249&v=wAy1lEW-qYg
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:05 PM ET
What is the CBA rules about players who do not have cap penalty contracts retiring before the contract is up? I am just wondering, what if Crow has a injury that he feels like he does not want to chance further health issues? Can he walk away right now, without financial obligations from the team? Maybe Seabs retires before his term completes.
- powerenforcer


I think that if either wanted to, they could retire without penalty to the Hawks. Because they weren't on a 35+ contract or one of those "penalized" contracts from the past like Hossa.

Anyone else half hoping Weber retires in the near future? If he did, Nashville is on the hook for a lot of penalties. If he did right now, it would be 8 years of 3 million on the books. Next year would be 7 years of 3.5 million.
eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Jun 28 @ 9:06 PM ET
If he was injured he would go on LTIR and be fully paid. He would not walk away or retire.
- -Doh-

But he could if he wanted to with no penalty to the Hawk and yes he will not.
TJYTJY
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2017

Jun 28 @ 9:10 PM ET
Lets give Bowman a chance, but I get the sneaking suspicion that this is going to be a complete disaster. I would imagine that the league knows that the Hawks are a rudderless ship with a complete disconnect between Bowman, Q, and McEgo.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:12 PM ET
I think that if either wanted to, they could retire without penalty to the Hawks. Because they weren't on a 35+ contract or one of those "penalized" contracts from the past like Hossa.

Anyone else half hoping Weber retires in the near future? If he did, Nashville is on the hook for a lot of penalties. If he did right now, it would be 8 years of 3 million on the books. Next year would be 7 years of 3.5 million.

- breadbag

I actually hope he waits a couple more years. Their yearly penalty would be much higher if he retires with 2 or 3 years left.
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