jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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They won't even know until Q gets ahold of them. - stanleyhawk
Quenneville gets a hold of them after rookies camp and Traverse City, then it is "danger, danger Will Robinson." |
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mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Dominoes? - vabeachbear
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jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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We had that D player and shipped him away...Stephen Johns in Dallas! - D2D
Noticed that John's signed a new contract at $2 mill + I think two year deal. |
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Polak isn't any of that. Except a cheap shot artist who still can't stop hitting guys from behind. He is not a good player. I prefer guys who can get out of their own zone. Polak bleeds SAT against. - Elbows15
Agreed! We would be on the PK (due to his penalties) often and that has not been our strength in many years! |
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z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: NW USA Joined: 02.09.2012
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Noticed that John's signed a new contract at $2 mill + I think two year deal. - jhawk59
Yep. The Sharp/Johns trade that netted us Garbutt and Daley. Good stuff. |
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Looking back would you have traded #27 to move to #6;just to take Hughes whom could play NHL sooner than Boqvist? Both are extremely talented offensive contributers. But maybe Hughes is safer pick, without the concussions. - jhawk59
I strongly preferred Hughes over Boqvist until I found out that Boqvist is a year younger and already bigger. I am fairly confident that our people did their due diligence on the concussion thing. BTW Hughes looked like a middle school kid on the podium whereas Boqvist did not strike me that way. |
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Except that's not true. AA has only scored 40 points 3 times, and two of those were playing with Kane and Panarin. His career high is 45 points, 3 years ago. Pageau has a career high of 43 points, also 3 seasons ago, makes $2M less, and is 5 years younger. Ottawa would not take AA straight up for Pageau. - tvetter
Correct! AA only produced when centering the line of Kaner and Breadman. Additionally. their style of gaining entry and being patient and holding the puck waiting for trailers helped out AA immensely due to his lack of speed.
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I strongly preferred Hughes over Boqvist until I found out that Boqvist is a year younger and already bigger. I am fairly confident that our people did their due diligence on the concussion thing. BTW Hughes looked like a middle school kid on the podium whereas Boqvist did not strike me that way. - 67hawks
I too had mixed feeling about Boqvist. I liked him early on in the process but then soured on him after all this concussion talk leading to him possibly drop from a top 5 candidate to a 6-10 candidate. With all this, I started liking Hughes. I have seen him a couple times and my first impression before I knew who he was...was wow can this kid skate. After getting my attention, I zoned him on him some more and sure enough, he was a rover on the UofM team. Maybe their coach wanted it that way but that will not fly in the NHL, nor in Q's system. So the jury is still out in his D zone play but no doubt he will be an offensive impactful player. High risk/reward type phenomenon.
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Couldn't carve out time in Vancouver. I don't see the logic for either GM. - kwolf68
oh i do. i don't like it but i see a sense of logic. Could mean Martinsen is ticketed for the big club and Poo-Poo is the vet leader type for the Piggies. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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AA produces at 2C when he has two of the top 15 scoring wingers in the league riding with him. How does he produce at 2C with second line talent? - breadbag
Around 40 points. Which is low end 2C. I am fine moving him but giving up the best LHD prospect currently and AA to move Hossa's contract isn't good asset management to me. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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We had that D player and shipped him away...Stephen Johns in Dallas! - D2D
In a vacuum, yes. Keeping sharp for one more season helped them win their third Cup. I still make the trade off. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Except that's not true. AA has only scored 40 points 3 times, and two of those were playing with Kane and Panarin. His career high is 45 points, 3 years ago. Pageau has a career high of 43 points, also 3 seasons ago, makes $2M less, and is 5 years younger. Ottawa would not take AA straight up for Pageau. - tvetter
He makes 1.4 less. Still isn't worth the best LHD prospect the Hawks have currently.
AA has put up those 40 points pretty consistently in his career. Pageau, who I have come to appreciate, is more of a 30 point guy. |
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Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Yorkville, IL Joined: 08.30.2012
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Personally would argue that these are the only players of that group who can bring anything to this roster that makes it better. - Trammelt
This is my list of free agents i would consider there are a lot more that deserve to look at also |
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EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Denver, CO Joined: 02.19.2014
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So StanBo selected his first 6 picks with every guy 6’ or under and less than 200lbs. The only 6’+ and 200lb + guys he drafted are a goalie and a 7th rounder. Lmao looks like another tank is in the cards. #LoseForHughes #FireStanleyBowman |
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It was 5 years ago we hoisted the cup after the greatest 17 seconds in Hawks history!!! At least we got that! |
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Hawkster
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Quebec , QC Joined: 06.13.2008
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So StanBo selected his first 6 picks with every guy 6’ or under and less than 200lbs. The only 6’+ and 200lb + guys he drafted are a goalie and a 7th rounder. Lmao looks like another tank is in the cards. #LoseForHughes #FireStanleyBowman - EnzoD
Not to worry cause Toews, Seabs will have a bounce back year and we will be competing for another cup. If Toews could only have a better winger, if only he changed his training routine, if only we brought up Hini from the minors, if Q played the younger guys more.....blah blah blah....were are my fukkin pom poms?
Same team same coach same GM same shiiit...who are we kidding.
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vandymeer23
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IA Joined: 10.11.2014
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That's not a reason to go out and get yet another guy who hasn't been above a #6 on a team in years when you have options in-house or out in the market.
Plus Seabrook, Murphy, and Rutta are all big guys - if Q wants them to be clear-the-crease types, he'll ask them to be. They could also bring up Gilbert or Dahlstrom, also big bodied d-men that have more potential than Cole at this point. - L_B_R
rutta isn't going to clear the crease. Seabs and Murphy need to sack up in that department |
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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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So StanBo selected his first 6 picks with every guy 6’ or under and less than 200lbs. The only 6’+ and 200lb + guys he drafted are a goalie and a 7th rounder. Lmao looks like another tank is in the cards. #LoseForHughes #FireStanleyBowman - EnzoD
I’m all for getting some size as well, but what happens if/when you draft all these 6’3” 220 lbs guys and they can’t skate fast/well enough? A lot of these guy said are 17-18 yrs old. They are going to get bigger before they make it to the NHL. I’d much rather get guys with speed, skill and know what to do with the puck instead of simply being bigger. |
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Trammelt
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 06.11.2012
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Is it just me, or has this been by far the most quiet, boring, and tiresome offseason in recent history? Not even just for the Blackhawks but for the NHL as a whole? No trades, no news, no rumors yet today on day 1 of the conversation period? Other than the CGY-CAR trade, and Kovalchuk signing there has been NOTHING. SOMEONE. DO SOMETHING!!!!!
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L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 02.23.2014
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So StanBo selected his first 6 picks with every guy 6’ or under and less than 200lbs. The only 6’+ and 200lb + guys he drafted are a goalie and a 7th rounder. Lmao looks like another tank is in the cards. #LoseForHughes #FireStanleyBowman - EnzoD
Hakkarainen is 6'1", Kurashev is 6', and Boqvist is like half an inch shorter than that + Wise, Hakkarainen, and Kurashev are all within 5-10 pounds of 200. These are extremely typical sizes for 18 year old hockey players.
All of these guys are probably going to grow a bit more, too. Boqvist is light but he's 17 and has apparently grown an inch in just the last year far too early to make any assessments on him. Really, only Beaudin and Nordgren are a combo of small and light. |
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So StanBo selected his first 6 picks with every guy 6’ or under and less than 200lbs. The only 6’+ and 200lb + guys he drafted are a goalie and a 7th rounder. Lmao looks like another tank is in the cards. #LoseForHughes #FireStanleyBowman - EnzoD
Boquist is a gift ,form Montreal . HAWKS were not the only one drafting small quick D man .Maybe the GM no something about the way the game is trending you don't . I believe the HAWKS are in it for the long haul ,and know in about 2 to 3 years big changes will be happening personnel wise just MHO |
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breadbag
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 11.30.2015
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Around 40 points. Which is low end 2C. I am fine moving him but giving up the best LHD prospect currently and AA to move Hossa's contract isn't good asset management to me. - Elbows15
Yeah, Hawks shouldn't have to give too much to move Hossa.
AA lands pretty much right in 3C territory, based on scoring compared to other C. Maybe 2C on a team that is weak in the middle. The only thing that saved his scoring totals last year was his 30% shooting on the PP that got him 11 PP goals, because outside of playing with Kane his production was awful. I think you can count the even strength scoring of AA (last season) while playing without Kane on one hand. Not even kidding. |
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Trammelt
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 06.11.2012
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As side note - for CHI - We all have seen the jumbled reports of interest in Faulk (top 4 Dman), acquiring JVR (top 6 w), some goalie talk, moving 81 contract, clearing AA's $, a depth C, etc. It all would suggest that the FO is not content with the current roster and status quo, and understand multiple moves need to be made. Which we all know is for good reason, after last seasons resuts. Yet the lack of a single Change or addition to the current roster going into this coming season, and shortage of information on who the FO may have reached out to today, speaks glaringly to the contrary. Makes me very curious if it may be due to StanBo and the FO making a huge pitch for Tavares.. or working on a massive trade that would prevent other pieces from moving beforehand. It's very curious.. and too quiet. |
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pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Portland, OR Joined: 09.02.2015
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tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Burkesville, KY Joined: 12.16.2015
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Around 40 points. Which is low end 2C. I am fine moving him but giving up the best LHD prospect currently and AA to move Hossa's contract isn't good asset management to me. - Elbows15
First of all, I said one of the young dmen, so it wouldn't necessarily be Forsling, I just wouldn'trule him out. Second, you say he consistently puts up 40 points, but he only did it once before coming to the Hawks. Last year he had 31 points. |
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