I thought it was "Ka-Put"
- 67hawks

Sadly not

Successful businesses don't toss the product when it is still making them money, either. They're not going to jettison their proven money-making players until they are for sure that they cannot make money from them anymore. A full rebuild guarantees less money, so they're not going to go that route until they absolutely have to and they're most def not there yet.
- L_B_R

Agree 100%, especially when a far less drastic alternative, i.e. a new coaching staff, exists.

No need for Cole. How many bottom pairing d-men are the Hawks going to collect?
- L_B_R

Problem is non of them are 6'+ 200lb+ push back types unless you include Seabrook in that group.

Problem is non of them are 6'+ 200lb+ push back types unless you include Seabrook in that group.
- 67hawks

The team is full of push backs. How else do they get up off the ice?

Problem is non of them are 6'+ 200lb+ push back types unless you include Seabrook in that group.
- 67hawks

That's not a reason to go out and get yet another guy who hasn't been above a #6 on a team in years when you have options in-house or out in the market.

Plus Seabrook, Murphy, and Rutta are all big guys - if Q wants them to be clear-the-crease types, he'll ask them to be. They could also bring up Gilbert or Dahlstrom, also big bodied d-men that have more potential than Cole at this point.

Two things about all these dmen prospects, many which are signed ostensibly for Rockford next season.

First, loving the amount of and different style from the group overall. I really believe that most eventually can make the NHL based upon ability.

Secondly, their success sooner rather than later is tied somewhat to having the benefit of 1) good coach in Colliton, and 2) a veteran partner as their pair). Even in case the veteran is not part of the pairing but just on the team so that they learn and benefit from the veteran's experience in many ways.

This being said, how does Bowman expect to play them all in Rockford. Now I could imagine Jokiharju spends a year in Finland, and one of the other swede/Finnish signers could be lianed to their old team. But there are like ke Justin said 469 prospects still lurking. Well I can come up with one nugget as I discern that the stay at home not big offensive type like Carlsson, Gilbert, Hillman could match up well. What is really needed first of all is to know which side each plays.

Also I will say it again in hoping someone has an opinion: anyone see Tuulola play the final three playing games straight from Finland, no North America transition and she says in playing lineup. He is an offensive type but how good how advanced is his game? Does he at least give an effort battling for puck against larger forwards?

I am getting real close to turning off auto correct because it predicts wrong. Need to proofread anyway

Except AA produces at a 2C level. Something Pageau has never done. Moving Hossa's contract isn't that important. Unless its the right to Clendening.
- Elbows15

Except that's not true. AA has only scored 40 points 3 times, and two of those were playing with Kane and Panarin. His career high is 45 points, 3 years ago. Pageau has a career high of 43 points, also 3 seasons ago, makes $2M less, and is 5 years younger. Ottawa would not take AA straight up for Pageau.

Problem is non of them are 6'+ 200lb+ push back types unless you include Seabrook in that group.
- 67hawks

Cole would be solid signing as number 5 who could fill in the top 4 in case of an injury and plays with an edge and is physical something gus and rutta lack. So yes if the hawks can get him at a reasonable price and term.

MY list of free agents:
JVR**
Bozak*
DeHann **
Cole
Roussel*
Beagle*
Lehner**
Stastny
Halak
Moore*
Colborne
Sustr*

Now of course not saying sign them all but a good mix of what players hawks should be looking at.

Trading fringe NHLers in both cases. A total nothing trade. I guess someone in one of the two organizations sees something in the other player. Whatever, a big snore
- kwolf68

Yup, whatever....super snore.

Wake me up when something significant happens.

Except that's not true. AA has only scored 40 points 3 times, and two of those were playing with Kane and Panarin. His career high is 45 points, 3 years ago. Pageau has a career high of 43 points, also 3 seasons ago, makes $2M less, and is 5 years younger. Ottawa would not take AA straight up for Pageau.
- tvetter

There may be the reality that AA has to be practicly given away this summer. He may fetch a better return, even a fair value, near the end of training camp/ten gp rookie point in time. Or at trade deadline. I think it is his salary and propensity to get injured which deters interest. If Chicago paid half his salary cap hit then his new team retains a couple million for salary signs and wiggle room at trade deadline.

Except AA produces at a 2C level. Something Pageau has never done. Moving Hossa's contract isn't that important. Unless its the right to Clendening.
- Elbows15

AA produces at 2C when he has two of the top 15 scoring wingers in the league riding with him. How does he produce at 2C with second line talent?

Two things about all these dmen prospects, many which are signed ostensibly for Rockford next season.

First, loving the amount of and different style from the group overall. I really believe that most eventually can make the NHL based upon ability.

Secondly, their success sooner rather than later is tied somewhat to having the benefit of 1) good coach in Colliton, and 2) a veteran partner as their pair). Even in case the veteran is not part of the pairing but just on the team so that they learn and benefit from the veteran's experience in many ways.

This being said, how does Bowman expect to play them all in Rockford. Now I could imagine Jokiharju spends a year in Finland, and one of the other swede/Finnish signers could be lianed to their old team. But there are like ke Justin said 469 prospects still lurking. Well I can come up with one nugget as I discern that the stay at home not big offensive type like Carlsson, Gilbert, Hillman could match up well. What is really needed first of all is to know which side each plays.

Also I will say it again in hoping someone has an opinion: anyone see Tuulola play the final three playing games straight from Finland, no North America transition and she says in playing lineup. He is an offensive type but how good how advanced is his game? Does he at least give an effort battling for puck against larger forwards?

I am getting real close to turning off auto correct because it predicts wrong. Need to proofread anyway
- jhawk59

Pretty much everyone signed but not with the Hawks currently are LD except Jokiharju and Raddysh.

Chaput isn’t even signed, he’s a RFA.

Cole would be solid signing as number 5 who could fill in the top 4 in case of an injury and plays with an edge and is physical something gus and rutta lack. So yes if the hawks can get him at a reasonable price and term.

MY list of free agents:
JVR**
Bozak*
DeHann **
Cole
Roussel*
Beagle*
Lehner**
Stastny
Halak
Moore*
Colborne
Sustr*

Now of course not saying sign them all but a good mix of what players hawks should be looking at.
- Scott1977

Cole hasn't even been a #5 on a team in 3+ years, much less a #4.

Pretty much everyone signed but not with the Hawks currently are LD except Jokiharju and Raddysh.
- L_B_R

I'd love to see Raddysh take a step forward in the near future. He was pretty darn good in the OHL.

Looking back would you have traded #27 to move to #6;just to take Hughes whom could play NHL sooner than Boqvist? Both are extremely talented offensive contributers. But maybe Hughes is safer pick, without the concussions.

Looking back would you have traded #27 to move to #6;just to take Hughes whom could play NHL sooner than Boqvist? Both are extremely talented offensive contributers. But maybe Hughes is safer pick, without the concussions.
- jhawk59

Why would the Wings have traded the #6? They too were high on getting Hughes and then lucked into Zadina dropping to them.

The only team in the top that could have safely moved back was Arizona and they probably wanted lot more than just the #27 to go back 4 spaces. Typically trying to move 3-5 spots in the top 15 has cost a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and none of those were move sup above the #5. Though from what I was reading from Friedman/MacKenzie types, no one really knew Arizona was going off-board a bit.

I'd love to see Raddysh take a step forward in the near future. He was pretty darn good in the OHL.
- breadbag

Raddysh is a guy I can see challenging for a roster spot this year.

Anyone able to tell what Chaput brings to the lineup?

With Luke Johnson strong season I sugg St zkero and Johnson was one too many depth defensive forward. Defensive fir arrs first of all, with midest offensive ability.
- jhawk59

Seems like maybe he is bit more what the Hawks want compared to Kero, but probably doesn't see the lineup unless there are injuries. He can win some draws and has a bit more size, so maybe he is in the running for 4C or extra forward if the Hawks want other guys playing minutes in the AHL.

This being said, how does Bowman expect to play them all in Rockford. Now I could imagine Jokiharju spends a year in Finland, and one of the other swede/Finnish signers could be lianed to their old team. But there are like ke Justin said 469 prospects still lurking. Well I can come up with one nugget as I discern that the stay at home not big offensive type like Carlsson, Gilbert, Hillman could match up well. What is really needed first of all is to know which side each plays.
- jhawk59

They won't even know until Q gets ahold of them.

Tanner Kero traded to the Canucks

for


F Michael Chaput ??

who gives a poop ?
- mrpaulish

Dominoes?

Cole would be solid signing as number 5 who could fill in the top 4 in case of an injury and plays with an edge and is physical something gus and rutta lack. So yes if the hawks can get him at a reasonable price and term.

MY list of free agents:
JVR**
Bozak*
DeHann **
Cole
Roussel*
Beagle*
Lehner**
Stastny
Halak
Moore*
Colborne
Sustr*

Now of course not saying sign them all but a good mix of what players hawks should be looking at.
- Scott1977

Personally would argue that these are the only players of that group who can bring anything to this roster that makes it better.

They won't even know until Q gets ahold of them.
- stanleyhawk

I like the Hawks having a lot of Dmen in the pipeline because you never know who will actually make it or who will be a bust. I think they know they need to start finding fresh bodies to play big minutes soon.

Agree 100%, especially when a far less drastic alternative, i.e. a new coaching staff, exists.
- BMWChiFan

Which is why I suggested both Toews and Seabrook have to play themselves out of lineup. Then at conclusion of season see what team does about it. Besides, what would you give us which could actually help us, if Toews or Seabrook were dealt.if I was another team I would have almost zero interest. Chicago would have to retain most of salary cap hit and I would give nothing better than 3rd or 4th round pick.

I would rather have a Cole /Polak type signing on a one year deal. If we are out by the TDL, flip them for assets. Those type of D are always in demand for playoff runs.
- 67hawks

We had that D player and shipped him away...Stephen Johns in Dallas!