Nice player Hayton but if Kotkaniemi is gone and I'm reaching for a center Velano looks like he has more upside and is every bit a defensive gem that Hayton is, no?
- Mr Ricochet

It think Joe Veleno fills like a safe option, who will easily shift to the wing...

Thanks for this insight post, Pic
- wiz1901

But Hoffman is not without skill. Guy can score: https://dobberhockey.com/...tually-traded-to-florida/

If we can set aside the off-ice cyber-bullying allegations for right now, Hoffman is an upper-tier scorer in the NHL. He has 104 total goals over his four full seasons in the NHL. Those 104 goals puts him 24th in the league in that span, two fewer than James van Riemsdyk, three fewer than Jeff Skinner, and four fewer than Phil Kessel. One thing to note about that is he wasn’t given much PP time in his first full season, managing just one PP goal. So even though he has fewer total goals than Kessel over the last four years, Hoffman’s goals/60 at five-on-five (0.91) is actually higher than the Pittsburgh sniper’s (0.86).

Stan Bowman's Thursday press conference:

"We like our team"

"We will look very similar in September"

"We expect Corey to be 100% healthy for the season start"

more fluff and tap dancing
- walleyeb1

I hope we get astute Stan

Glasses on....double Windsor, maybe the freshly dyed beard and big dark circles under his eyes.

Can't wait to hear about Corey's health....
The rested core....
The love of all these guys at #8 and #27

Hilarious and said so many of us can predict the talking points so far in advance.

And you what? Lazerus will be there front and center, smiling, nodding his head with acceptance to every vanilla answer they feed him like it's a gospel.

Everyone should be calling Ottawa now. Dorion is in a perpetual no-win cycle of being handcuffed by his owner and unique circumstances.

Hoffman was a toxic asset, he was pretty much hog tied there in terms of a return. Factor in he has a cancer for an owner and he is never allowed to make a trade where he takes back more money than he sends out, and welp, you have the senators as they sit here today.

Dorion might actually be a very smart GM, but you will never know it as long as he sits in ottawa, and it will likely prevent him from ever becoming a GM elsewhere again
- Stan_Bowman

Really good post.

That said it's time to take advantage of that situation for opposing GMs.

I think I like Wilson's style of dumping a salary as opposed to StanBows. Stan gives up a 2nd to offload a salary, Wilson acquires one!!

More than one way to skin a cat, for some.
- Mr Ricochet

Stan got 2 - 2nds for Shaw when he had to dump them. And got 2 pretty ok players in the draft

Also got a 2nd and 2 - 4ths for Bolland - who was done as a player

Took a 30pt Hartman (drafted 30th) who was a RFA/nothing special...and turned him into a Prospect and 27th overall pick...not bad in a deep draft

Not sure why people dont factor locker room chemistry- if Hoffman's GF is a dbag and can cause issues, why risk it?

Or any player for that matter. Some times players dont fit in the room/have $hitty attitudes and GMs/agents make moves people question/rip...but no one knows the inner locker room chemistry other than the team. So fancy stats are great, but if someone is a disruption, their stats dont help the team

But Hoffman is not without skill. Guy can score: https://dobberhockey.com/...tually-traded-to-florida/

If we can set aside the off-ice cyber-bullying allegations for right now, Hoffman is an upper-tier scorer in the NHL. He has 104 total goals over his four full seasons in the NHL. Those 104 goals puts him 24th in the league in that span, two fewer than James van Riemsdyk, three fewer than Jeff Skinner, and four fewer than Phil Kessel. One thing to note about that is he wasn’t given much PP time in his first full season, managing just one PP goal. So even though he has fewer total goals than Kessel over the last four years, Hoffman’s goals/60 at five-on-five (0.91) is actually higher than the Pittsburgh sniper’s (0.86).
- Mr Ricochet

Barkov, Huberdeau, Hoffman, Dadonov, Trocheck, Bjugstad is a nice looking top 6 forward group....uncle Dale just needs that veteran presence on D in the form of Brent Seabrook 😁

Messing with the room by taking on a guy with baggage is always risky. But if he lights it up early on they'll figure it out. But if he doesn't, and that girlfriend is the whack job some say she is, who is going to take him next?
- 6628

So, you are Dale Tallon (not the brightest bulb as far as I am concerned when he couldn't tell me correctly how many second round picks he had in Columbus during the Kane draft (there was an option)----

do you first call your team captain and tell him what's going to happen, and ask we'll be ok, as a hockey team/family, right?

or you just think oh how I messed up with the Riley Smith- Jonathan Marchessault expansion debacle and this helps fix it...

Really good post.

That said it's time to take advantage of that situation for opposing GMs.
- Mr Ricochet

I dont know what it will take, but I think you take a big swing at Ottawa and knock on Dorions door and ask him what the price is on Mark Stone. Price will be steep, but if Ottawa is going full rebuild, Melnyk will be looking to dump all major salaries. Stone is 26 and a pending RFA coming off a bridge deal at $3.5 mil cap hit and due for a LARGE raise, of which I am positive Melnyk will not be happy to pay out. Give him a few top assets that are more cost controlled and there is a sliver of opportunity.

Maybe Anisimov + Forsling + 27OA + Knott

Barkov, Huberdeau, Hoffman, Dadonov, Trocheck, Bjugstad is a nice looking top 6 forward group...
- EnzoD

Henrik Borgström is a center who will need a scoring wing too

I dont know what it will take, but I think you take a big swing at Ottawa and knock on Dorions door and ask him what the price is on Mark Stone. Price will be steep, but if Ottawa is going full rebuild, Melnyk will be looking to dump all major salaries. Stone is 26 and a pending RFA coming off a bridge deal at $3.5 mil cap hit and due for a LARGE raise, of which I am positive Melnyk will not be happy to pay out. Give him a few top assets that are more cost controlled and there is a sliver of opportunity.

Maybe Anisimov + Forsling + 27OA + Knott
- Stan_Bowman

And then coincidentally I mosey over to HF boards and found this interesting quote. Granted is some random on twitter, but I dont think anyone doubts this story is completely plausible and no players that are remotely competitive like being in Ottawa right now:

http://hfboards.mandatory...reads/mark-stone.2504647/

Marc Edwards with hockeyprospect.com has Dobson at #5, Hughes at #9, Bouchard #10 and Bovqvist #11.

I doubt very much that Hughes drops to #9 - people saw what he did in the World Championships. (And coached by Jeff Blashill) So I doubt Detroit would pass him up.

With Dobson and Hughes having been very impressive late in the season, that's why I'm saying there is a longshot chance that Zadina falls 4 or 5 places.
- RickJ

Yeah I doubt he also to the wings...

So I guess Dahlin, Hughes, and Dobson (with his all around long term potential). probably ARE the only three that go before slot #8

In my head, I always thought that, and was trying so hard to give hawks the options of more star forwards...

do we know Ottawa will keep the pick?

They may owe Colorada the first overall next year!

So, you are Dale Tallon (not the brightest bulb as far as I am concerned when he couldn't tell me correctly how many second round picks he had in Columbus during the Kane draft (there was an option)----

do you first call your team captain and tell him what's going to happen, and ask we'll be ok, as a hockey team/family, right?

or you just think oh how I messed up with the Riley Smith- Jonathan Marchessault expansion debacle and this helps fix it...
- wiz1901

I am biased when it comes to Dale, so I'll go easy on this one. But I'd guess he knows someone who knows a thing or two about Hoffman and is going to roll the dice.
But even I have to admit he has a couple of stiffs like Aliu and Beach on his resume. He's not afraid to take a shot, that's for sure.

We'll see what happens.

Not sure why people dont factor locker room chemistry- if Hoffman's GF is a dbag and can cause issues, why risk it?

Or any player for that matter. Some times players dont fit in the room/have $hitty attitudes and GMs/agents make moves people question/rip...but no one knows the inner locker room chemistry other than the team. So fancy stats are great, but if someone is a disruption, their stats dont help the team
- PatShart

I will plead the 5th here...just think about what you posted.

Stan got 2 - 2nds for Shaw when he had to dump them. And got 2 pretty ok players in the draft

Also got a 2nd and 2 - 4ths for Bolland - who was done as a player

Took a 30pt Hartman (drafted 30th) who was a RFA/nothing special...and turned him into a Prospect and 27th overall pick...not bad in a deep draft
- PatShart

Now that I look he also got a 2nd and 3rd for TT and Bickell. The 27th this yr can end up very big.. http://www.nhltradetracke...team/Chicago_Blackhawks/1 Indeed I stand corrected:

So, you are Dale Tallon (not the brightest bulb as far as I am concerned when he couldn't tell me correctly how many second round picks he had in Columbus during the Kane draft (there was an option)----

do you first call your team captain and tell him what's going to happen, and ask we'll be ok, as a hockey team/family, right?

or you just think oh how I messed up with the Riley Smith- Jonathan Marchessault expansion debacle and this helps fix it...
- wiz1901

Hold on are you putting yourself ahead of an actual NHL GM in regards to intellect?

A guy who build the Hawks into a Stanley cup powerhouse?

WOW>…...I have now read it all on here. I missed your run in an actual NHL hockey operations for a team.

Hold on are you putting yourself ahead of an actual NHL GM in regards to intellect?

A guy who build the Hawks into a Stanley cup powerhouse?

WOW>…...I have now read it all on here. I missed your run in an actual NHL hockey operations for a team.
- SteveRain

I would

I am biased when it comes to Dale, so I'll go easy on this one. But I'd guess he knows someone who knows a thing or two about Hoffman and is going to roll the dice.
But even I have to admit he has a couple of stiffs like Aliu and Beach on his resume. He's not afraid to take a shot, that's for sure.

We'll see what happens.
- 6628

He's a players GM. Always has been. He will take a shot at a player with skill, with questionable character.

As far as him letting players go, I'm sure the chaotic ownership issue down in Miami has nothing to do with that...….

He's a players GM. Always has been. He will take a shot at a player with skill, with questionable character.

As far as him letting players go, I'm sure the chaotic ownership issue down in Miami has nothing to do with that...….
- SteveRain

holding out for a Seabs for Bjustad trade. Dale wants experienced dmen...

I would
- Stan_Bowman

Nobody here is hockey smart > then an actual GM. Sorry...we question and not like the moves, but if anyone was.....they'd be working for an actual NHL team in hockey operations in some capacity.

We have zero idea what internal budgets are laid down by owners. What cliques are happening in locker-rooms. What players are dealing with off ice issues (family, drugs/alcohol)…..some guys hear rumors that may have more validity then others, but some of this is just getting comical.

He's a players GM. Always has been. He will take a shot at a player with skill, with questionable character.

As far as him letting players go, I'm sure the chaotic ownership issue down in Miami has nothing to do with that...….
- SteveRain

He's not the only one who helped build the Knights. And he is the one who pegged Gallant as a good coach. The ownership poop show for sure had something to do with that.

He's not the only one who helped build the Knights. And he is the one who pegged Gallant as a good coach. The ownership poop show for sure had something to do with that.
- 6628

Correct just like he had to take the bullet here when Bowman sr pushed for Savard to be fired.

Always two sides...….Wiz knows his stuff, but he's not a NHL gm. Period.

holding out for a Seabs for Bjustad trade. Dale wants experienced dmen...
- ikeane

Dale falls in love with guys.....Dave Bolland is exhibit A.

I always kid in the summer of 2009 I'm sure Bolland sprinted to the UPS/Fed Ex store to send back that signed contract when he got his QO

holding out for a Seabs for Bjustad trade. Dale wants experienced dmen...
- ikeane

Is hell freezing over? Hawks trade for Hayes? Is never happening for so many reasons - one key one being that Hayes is not a good hockey player. I’ll let you guess the biggest reason.
- Z3Hawk

That Tkachuk is a cousin is just another reason not to draft him

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This bothers me, if they draft Tkachuck...I could see the Hayes brothers talking him out of actually coming here just because of their hatred for how the Hawks supposedly treated them. Then we have a wasted #8 pick, screw that.