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BD Gallof
New York Islanders
Location: Suffolk County, LI, NY
Joined: 01.17.2006

Jun 14 @ 1:42 PM ET
Not sure I understand this.....
- JohnScammo



team make-up is analytics based. Lou was just at Toronto which also used it heavily. I'd think whoever is hired is analytics-friendly. Sheldon Keefe is big in the use of analytics.
nyislsbossy
Joined: 05.31.2016

Jun 14 @ 1:57 PM ET
russia's sports express did a story on the top 50 russian players this year and sorokin is # 22
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 14 @ 2:12 PM ET

- Harambe

JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jun 14 @ 2:13 PM ET
team make-up is analytics based. Lou was just at Toronto which also used it heavily. I'd think whoever is hired is analytics-friendly. Sheldon Keefe is big in the use of analytics.
- B.D. Gallof

It's my understanding that, if you view the players using analytics, many of them suck, to put it crudely. So I guess I'm a little surprised....
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jun 14 @ 2:14 PM ET

- Harambe

BD Gallof
New York Islanders
Location: Suffolk County, LI, NY
Joined: 01.17.2006

Jun 14 @ 2:55 PM ET
It's my understanding that, if you view the players using analytics, many of them suck, to put it crudely. So I guess I'm a little surprised....
- JohnScammo



Nope. But the goaltending sure sucked. Prob coaching choice and plans too.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 14 @ 3:09 PM ET
It's my understanding that, if you view the players using analytics, many of them suck, to put it crudely. So I guess I'm a little surprised....
- JohnScammo


JS, it's another tool to be used however team systems and play certainly skew individual analytic stats.
I don't believe for a moment teams are built purely on analytics. NFW.

bgainesDM
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 14 @ 3:19 PM ET
Our 12 overall plus one of our 2nds for Grubauer and Washington's 31st. Fair, very fair, or not fair?
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

Jun 14 @ 3:24 PM ET
Our 12 overall plus one of our 2nds for Grubauer and Washington's 31st. Fair, very fair, or not fair?
- bgainesDM

Not terrible, but 12 for Grubauer and 31 seems completely reasonable. No reason we need to throw in an additional pick.
bgainesDM
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 14 @ 3:28 PM ET
Not terrible, but 12 for Grubauer and 31 seems completely reasonable. No reason we need to throw in an additional pick.
- Harambe


I worry we might have to overpay a little given the rumors of Carolina souring on Darling. If we can avoid losing the other pick, I'm all for it
bgainesDM
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 14 @ 3:29 PM ET
Nope. But the goaltending sure sucked. Prob coaching choice and plans too.
- B.D. Gallof


Why not Todd Reirden or Barry Trotz? No way Washington keeps both.
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

Jun 14 @ 3:30 PM ET
I worry we might have to overpay a little given the rumors of Carolina souring on Darling. If we can avoid losing the other pick, I'm all for it
- bgainesDM

I think giving up the 12th overall for a goaltender with a career high of 35gp in a season is overpaying enough.

Here's a good list of what goaltenders in similar (everyone please note the word "similar") situations were traded for:

https://www.reddit.com/r/.../?st=jiexpkf1&sh=1f2684fe

edit: Just to tack on to this....I think Cam Talbot's trade is probably the closest indicator of where Grubauer's starting price would be. There's some very obvious competition for Grubauer (CAR) and probably some less obvious teams that may get in the mix (maybe CGY?), so obviously competition is going to breed a higher asking price. Isles should be trying to use both their 2nd's and maybe someone like Ho Sang or Nelson's RFA rights to entice the Caps to send Grubauer their way. I'm comfortable parting with #12 (by itself) if the Caps 31stOA pick came along with it.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 14 @ 3:49 PM ET
I'm not sure if this was posted?

https://www.sny.tv/island...purge-continues/281264982
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 14 @ 3:50 PM ET
I think giving up the 12th overall for a goaltender with a career high of 35gp in a season is overpaying enough.

Here's a good list of what goaltenders in similar (everyone please note the word "similar") situations were traded for:

https://www.reddit.com/r/.../?st=jiexpkf1&sh=1f2684fe

edit: Just to tack on to this....I think Cam Talbot's trade is probably the closest indicator of where Grubauer's starting price would be. There's some very obvious competition for Grubauer (CAR) and probably some less obvious teams that may get in the mix (maybe CGY?), so obviously competition is going to breed a higher asking price. Isles should be trying to use both their 2nd's and maybe someone like Ho Sang or Nelson's RFA rights to entice the Caps to send Grubauer their way. I'm comfortable parting with #12 (by itself) if the Caps 31stOA pick came along with it.

- Harambe


12 does seem high. I like giving up one of the 2's and Nelson. I would also be fine giving up the 12 if the 31st was coming back.
BD Gallof
New York Islanders
Location: Suffolk County, LI, NY
Joined: 01.17.2006

Jun 14 @ 3:55 PM ET
I'm not sure if this was posted?

https://www.sny.tv/island...purge-continues/281264982

- ses111



No surprise. Andy Graziano also had Bertini let go.

"Anyone with ties to the Snow regime seems on thin ice. Even video coach Matt Bertani wasn’t able to escape the regime change."

https://wfan.radio.com/bl...-active-leading-nhl-draft

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 14 @ 3:57 PM ET
No surprise. Andy Graziano also had Bertini let go.

"Anyone with ties to the Snow regime seems on thin ice. Even video coach Matt Bertani wasn’t able to escape the regime change."

https://wfan.radio.com/bl...-active-leading-nhl-draft

- B.D. Gallof


I think Cronin was long overdue. Sorry for people losing their job but this is really needed.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:01 PM ET
"Come on honey, it's time to go home. It's late"


- eichiefs9


This poop is offensive.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 14 @ 4:04 PM ET
I'm not sure if this was posted?

https://www.sny.tv/island...purge-continues/281264982

- ses111

JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jun 14 @ 4:20 PM ET
I'm not sure if this was posted?

https://www.sny.tv/island...purge-continues/281264982

- ses111


It's so much fun to see the Snow cronies being showed the door.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 14 @ 4:20 PM ET

- Vukota




I still love this one.



nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 14 @ 4:22 PM ET
No surprise. Andy Graziano also had Bertini let go.

"Anyone with ties to the Snow regime seems on thin ice. Even video coach Matt Bertani wasn’t able to escape the regime change."

https://wfan.radio.com/bl...-active-leading-nhl-draft

- B.D. Gallof


Andy's about 3 days to late. Old News. Loiselle also let go
BD Gallof
New York Islanders
Location: Suffolk County, LI, NY
Joined: 01.17.2006

Jun 14 @ 4:25 PM ET
Andy's about 3 days to late. Old News. Loiselle also let go
- nyisles7


Staple cited as of yesterday afternoon, he wasn't. So there is a disparity there.
BD Gallof
New York Islanders
Location: Suffolk County, LI, NY
Joined: 01.17.2006

Jun 14 @ 4:27 PM ET
you are going to be in for surprises next week.

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 14 @ 4:30 PM ET
Staple cited as of yesterday afternoon, he wasn't. So there is a disparity there.
- B.D. Gallof


Who Bertani or Loiselle? Both as far as I know where let go. But Staple is linked into Garth, oh no wait Lou who is tight lipped so.....
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 14 @ 4:31 PM ET
you are going to be in for surprises next week.
- B.D. Gallof



Oh please tell us your Nuggets, please !
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