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Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 15 @ 5:02 PM ET
Our Stanley Cup window is open as long as Scheifele's contract. Last thing any Jet fan wants to see is that window be wasted. We need a legit #2 center behind Scheifele. Is Roslovic that guy, not right now. I would be comfortable with Roslovic as a number 3 center. Is Little that guy? Nope, he played his best when he was a forth line right winger with Copp and Lowry. This teams biggest weakness is up the middle and hopefully that is addressed this off season.
- TheUltimateJet

Vegas beat us pretty easily and I wouldn’t trade our centers with theirs. Just saying.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 15 @ 5:07 PM ET
Vegas beat us pretty easily and I wouldn’t trade our centers with theirs. Just saying.
- Ross77


What does Vegas have to do with what I posted?
Moosejuice17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 15 @ 5:08 PM ET
ultimate...you are right about that, responding to the level of comments directed
my way, like " why are you so upset, need to talk to someone crap, it was juvenile
and had no bearing on comments make. Do some homework before commenting, is another gem came my way, did my homework as in playing coaching for over 35 years
and have some insight into the game and would like to share/and receive the same.
Not comments like that, make your point and lets discuuss, havnt heard from Rexy
for awhile, he's taken some unfair abuse on here, don't agree with Enstrom/Dano
evaluation but we have all our favourites
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 15 @ 6:04 PM ET

Come on guys, keep it clean, or I will be forced to take up the offer to referee this thread...
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 15 @ 6:08 PM ET
I am unsure about Comrie. Hopefully he proves me wrong and becomes what Jets fans hope he'll become. I think at best he might become a serviceable back-up. I don't have a problem with Mason being back-up next year. He and Myers could both become our deadline acquisitions and they don't cost us anything.

What do you think?

- TheUltimateJet


I like your "own rental" theory as Dregger refers to it. Mason must want to have a good bounce back season to continue in the league. If he could give the Jets 15-20 wins it may keep Helly rested and on his toes.

Myers is a beast, must be kept at almost any reasonable cost.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 15 @ 6:38 PM ET
ultimate...you are right about that, responding to the level of comments directed
my way, like " why are you so upset, need to talk to someone crap, it was juvenile
and had no bearing on comments make. Do some homework before commenting, is another gem came my way, did my homework as in playing coaching for over 35 years
and have some insight into the game and would like to share/and receive the same.
Not comments like that, make your point and lets discuuss, havnt heard from Rexy
for awhile, he's taken some unfair abuse on here, don't agree with Enstrom/Dano
evaluation but we have all our favourites

- Moosejuice17


Seriously?
And it’s ok to say stuff like “self professed expert”. Or “is 77 your age or IQ”?
Listen pal, I’m usually quite nice on here but since you started it with me i have no problem retaliating. You are not the only one in here who has been around the game, playing and coaching for 35 years!!!!

I’ll leave at that for this thread and start fresh on the next one.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 15 @ 6:39 PM ET
What does Vegas have to do with what I posted?
- TheUltimateJet

I only mentioned it as Vegas went to the cup finals with not great Center depth because you are painting a picture as it being a must for success.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jun 15 @ 6:41 PM ET
not sure about the " need to talk to someone" that might be hot stuff on the playground or seniors home. I didn't bring up Kuki....as you call him. Trying to educate you bit IQ77, so try and pay attention. centers you listed, all have one thing
in common overpaid and other than krejci...havnt won diddly. Duchene MIGHT be worth it....but thanks for confirming what I said about paying /overpaying.
And you even did it with Mason.....IF he's stays healthy, he can be a fine backup.
Way to go Albtr ROSS, another strike for the the COMMON man or come on man, not sure that you're about, other than comments like this.
And quit the Kuki, Mase, Wheels, Troubs stuff....I 've been around a lot of locker
rooms and that's hilarious to them to hear guys like you saying/calling them by
THEIR nicknames for each other.
And if I have time today, I'll show you what 35-40 pnt players make, and miss
15+ games a year....thought it was you that commented about 85 scoring one
goal in playoffs, and garbage goal in lopsided win, sounded like something you
would post. And that marvelous center that you say is good value at 5.3 , had so
much to do with the success of the team ( playing with a 29, and 44 scorer) that
chevy felt the need to go get another 2nd line center. Do you really think that if
he had a do over, he would sign Little early and not have $$ for Stasny. FYI, chevy is so impressed with Little's work that tsn is reporting that he is trying to get stastny signed to fill # 2 hole....and you are only one that has Roslovic at center, jets want him at wing for his speed. Hang in there IQ77, more info on the way for ya.

- Moosejuice17


Roslovic will be moved to center eventually, Little is a line 2 centre - the Little/Ehlers/Laine combo didn't work, with Stasny they had some success but Stasny was more about the PP, Stasny and Little put up similar numbers in a similar role but play it differently. (it's actually Ehlers/Laine that don't really have strong chemistry and so far produce better when separated.

This is a fan forum, we get to choose what we call the players, doesn't really matter what they think in the locker room - they are pros and have heard it all (perhaps you need that imaginary validation for yourself).

Little is being paid for being a 2-way center who can also play wing, PP or PK, is a leader, low maintenance and franchise games leader. His salary is in range of similarly valued players. 17-18 was an off year for him and he was still OK. Look for a bit of a bounce back to closer to the 50-55 point range and a slow graceful decline over the following years - he is a good skater, quick and thinks the game well. I am really hoping that someday he uses his boxing training for something more destructive than development of core strength and discipline.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jun 15 @ 6:47 PM ET
Seriously?
And it’s ok to say stuff like “self professed expert”. Or “is 77 your age or IQ”?
Listen pal, I’m usually quite nice on here but since you started it with me i have no problem retaliating. You are not the only one in here who has been around the game, playing and coaching for 35 years!!!!

I’ll leave at that for this thread and start fresh on the next one.

- Ross77



Ross - I think we are being trolled - he's pushing a lot of hot button topics and even invoked the Rexy the great with Dano/Enstrom. time to move along.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 15 @ 7:06 PM ET
I only mentioned it as Vegas went to the cup finals with not great Center depth because you are painting a picture as it being a must for success.
- Ross77


I can name many runner ups that didn’t have good Center depth. On the other hand I can name many cup CHAMPIONS that have won with great centre depth!
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jun 16 @ 7:45 AM ET
Ross - I think we are being trolled - he's pushing a lot of hot button topics and even invoked the Rexy the great with Dano/Enstrom. time to move along.
- 2.0


Absolutely correct 2.0. A troll all the way. It's to bad this board doesn't have an "ignore" feature so we could rid ourselves of these wingnuts with a simple press of a button.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jun 16 @ 7:58 AM ET
Also to chime in on the Domi trade to Montreal , I think Montreal will win that trade hands down. Domi is the real deal. A very skilled hockey player and the drive to win. He has lots of upside still to come and is the type of player that will excel in the "new" NHL . Galchenyuk, while talented ,may have peaked already and is obviously not a great defensive player although will do better at center in Arizona.

Wish the Jets could have found a way to land Domi but with Little and Perreault both having NMC or NTC clauses it would have been quite difficult without giving up on talent we want to keep .
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 16 @ 10:28 AM ET
Also to chime in on the Domi trade to Montreal , I think Montreal will win that trade hands down. Domi is the real deal. A very skilled hockey player and the drive to win. He has lots of upside still to come and is the type of player that will excel in the "new" NHL . Galchenyuk, while talented ,may have peaked already and is obviously not a great defensive player although will do better at center in Arizona.

Wish the Jets could have found a way to land Domi but with Little and Perreault both having NMC or NTC clauses it would have been quite difficult without giving up on talent we want to keep .

- jetsnation

I agree with ya, I’m quite surprised with how lopsided everyone in social media is with assuming galchenyuk is soooooo much better. I’ve never honestly been a fan of him and also think Domi has a lot more to show than what he did last year.
Moosejuice17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 16 @ 1:28 PM ET
a poster on this site has a habit of reminding the site when he is rite, I was rite about Postma, I was rite about Selanne etc..big deal, I knew about that too, and know who
yyc offered in return." I will dive into the article when I have more time."..we'll just wait here for you to enlighten us. My purpose for visiting this site
is to get some insight from people that have gone to Jet games and can provide info on who coasts to bench on a line change, who goes back and talks to the goalie after a bad goal.etc. Keith on corydon sound like a season ticker holder, any info like that available? Or how about some new blood other than 5-7 regulars, and new ideas put forward, instead of next years roster, how about 5 years down the road. and only present jet property available to fill those spots. Pick top 5 jet prospects and give
projections for ceiling and who, past and present they remind you of.....if peter has the ear of a jet scout, which analysis is/spot on. What does next years Moose team
look like? During playoffs one thing refreshing on this site, was the variance of
posters...not just same 5-7 people regurgitating same info over and over. Have a good weekend and Happy Father's day to the fathers.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 16 @ 2:58 PM ET
Also to chime in on the Domi trade to Montreal , I think Montreal will win that trade hands down. Domi is the real deal. A very skilled hockey player and the drive to win. He has lots of upside still to come and is the type of player that will excel in the "new" NHL . Galchenyuk, while talented ,may have peaked already and is obviously not a great defensive player although will do better at center in Arizona.

Wish the Jets could have found a way to land Domi but with Little and Perreault both having NMC or NTC clauses it would have been quite difficult without giving up on talent we want to keep .

- jetsnation


I think Galchenyuk will thrive in Arizona. I think people in Winnipeg have an affinity for Domi because of who his dad is.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jun 16 @ 10:12 PM ET
I think Galchenyuk will thrive in Arizona. I think people in Winnipeg have an affinity for Domi because of who his dad is.
- TheUltimateJet

Well, if we are talking about an affinity for former 1.0 Jets dads offsprings, I like Domi but those Tkackuk boys are pretty awesome hockey players as well. I would love to see one of those Thachuk boys in a Jet uni one day.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 16 @ 11:10 PM ET
Well, if we are talking about an affinity for former 1.0 Jets dads offsprings, I like Domi but those Tkackuk boys are pretty awesome hockey players as well. I would love to see one of those Thachuk boys in a Jet uni one day.
- CharlieDog


I feel ya. I posted this on the possibility of Karlsson being traded thread.

To OTT: Bryan Little, Andrew Copp, Jacob Trouba, Nik Petan, 2018 2nd round pick, 2019 1st round pick, 2019 3rd round pick, and a conditional 2020 1st round pick (Ottawa gets the first if Jets win the cup in either 2019 or 2020, otherwise the pick becomes a 2020 2nd round pick).

To WPG: Erik Karlsson, 2018 1st round pick.

We could use the pick to draft Brady Tkachuk.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jun 17 @ 1:16 AM ET
a poster on this site has a habit of reminding the site when he is rite, I was rite about Postma, I was rite about Selanne etc..big deal, I knew about that too, and know who
yyc offered in return." I will dive into the article when I have more time."..we'll just wait here for you to enlighten us. My purpose for visiting this site
is to get some insight from people that have gone to Jet games and can provide info on who coasts to bench on a line change, who goes back and talks to the goalie after a bad goal.etc. Keith on corydon sound like a season ticker holder, any info like that available? Or how about some new blood other than 5-7 regulars, and new ideas put forward, instead of next years roster, how about 5 years down the road. and only present jet property available to fill those spots. Pick top 5 jet prospects and give
projections for ceiling and who, past and present they remind you of.....if peter has the ear of a jet scout, which analysis is/spot on. What does next years Moose team
look like? During playoffs one thing refreshing on this site, was the variance of
posters...not just same 5-7 people regurgitating same info over and over. Have a good weekend and Happy Father's day to the fathers.

- Moosejuice17


good points (after we got past the personal conflict at the start). Obviously posts here are dominated by about 8 regulars. We do talk about individual players, the direction of the team, prospects from junior to Europe to AHL - it's not all going to happen in one or three posts though.

I have no knowledge of Jets inner workings, I watch about 80 games/season on PVR, went to one Moose game this year, look for team news daily. I do a better job of considering big picture questions than minutia of management/coaching etc.

I suspect that because of Chevy's track record and the team success that the Jets will largely stay the course without major changes in 2018/19. This years team wasn't good enough to win it all so it must improve.
Improvement will come from incrementally improved play from Sheifle, Trouba(?), Ehlers, Laine, Connor, Lowry, Morrissey, Poolman and Morrow.
Little will be better next year, not because he is getting younger but last year was a bit of an anomaly, hopefully we get more games from Kulikov also.
At about the same level as 2018 will be Buff, Wheeler, Myers, Perreault, Chiarot and hopefully Helle.
The biggest upside is with Roslovic and Niku. I am hoping for Roslovic to mature into a number 2 centre (like Sheifle 3 years ago?). For Niku I am hoping that his play brings a new dynamic to the PP and that his size and defensive play isn't exposed at the NHL level - it won't all be smooth sailing with him. In his game in Montreal he had a few soft or high risk plays that ended up in the back of our net. I do also remember that he scored and the team won the game.
I made my team on cap friendly (Mason was moved out for a pick, Enstrom was out and no other major moves - a stay the course team)
Beyond next year we can't project - way too many variables. Goalie prospects are still goalies - who knows what will come of them. Vaseleinan - yes, Stanley - maybe, Lemieux - maybe, Appleton - yes, Samberg - yes

As for a lower number of posters than other blogs I won't apologize. There is much better conversation focused on hockey when compared to many other hockeybuzz teams. There is so much garbage commenting (personal attacks, comments posted without thinking (guilty), crude/locker room talk, etc) that the threads aren't worth reading. Us regulars take some pride in posting relevant and productive thoughts. Disagreements happen and we expect that it won't get personal, we will defend each other when it does.

Thanks for your recent interest in this blog. Happy Fathers Day to you too.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jun 17 @ 1:30 AM ET
Well, if we are talking about an affinity for former 1.0 Jets dads offsprings, I like Domi but those Tkackuk boys are pretty awesome hockey players as well. I would love to see one of those Thachuk boys in a Jet uni one day.
- CharlieDog



Keith was an exciting player in his day, physical, goals, swagger, speed - he seemed to have it all. His kids look like a chip off the old block, even with some of the same badly timed penalties. How much is it on Keith for his teams' lack of playoff success in Wpg, Phoenix, Atlanta and St.Louis? How about Nagano 98, Salt Lake City, Turino? I think USA won world championship in 1996 and he was a part of. I am OK if other teams get the Tkatchuks but if one ends up in Wpg I have an open mind to success.

I recently ran in to a woman I dated when in high school - things change, people move on and it would never work. I am glad its just a memory.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 17 @ 11:12 AM ET
good points (after we got past the personal conflict at the start). Obviously posts here are dominated by about 8 regulars. We do talk about individual players, the direction of the team, prospects from junior to Europe to AHL - it's not all going to happen in one or three posts though.

I have no knowledge of Jets inner workings, I watch about 80 games/season on PVR, went to one Moose game this year, look for team news daily. I do a better job of considering big picture questions than minutia of management/coaching etc.

I suspect that because of Chevy's track record and the team success that the Jets will largely stay the course without major changes in 2018/19. This years team wasn't good enough to win it all so it must improve.
Improvement will come from incrementally improved play from Sheifle, Trouba(?), Ehlers, Laine, Connor, Lowry, Morrissey, Poolman and Morrow.
Little will be better next year, not because he is getting younger but last year was a bit of an anomaly, hopefully we get more games from Kulikov also.
At about the same level as 2018 will be Buff, Wheeler, Myers, Perreault, Chiarot and hopefully Helle.
The biggest upside is with Roslovic and Niku. I am hoping for Roslovic to mature into a number 2 centre (like Sheifle 3 years ago?). For Niku I am hoping that his play brings a new dynamic to the PP and that his size and defensive play isn't exposed at the NHL level - it won't all be smooth sailing with him. In his game in Montreal he had a few soft or high risk plays that ended up in the back of our net. I do also remember that he scored and the team won the game.
I made my team on cap friendly (Mason was moved out for a pick, Enstrom was out and no other major moves - a stay the course team)
Beyond next year we can't project - way too many variables. Goalie prospects are still goalies - who knows what will come of them. Vaseleinan - yes, Stanley - maybe, Lemieux - maybe, Appleton - yes, Samberg - yes

As for a lower number of posters than other blogs I won't apologize. There is much better conversation focused on hockey when compared to many other hockeybuzz teams. There is so much garbage commenting (personal attacks, comments posted without thinking (guilty), crude/locker room talk, etc) that the threads aren't worth reading. Us regulars take some pride in posting relevant and productive thoughts. Disagreements happen and we expect that it won't get personal, we will defend each other when it does.

Thanks for your recent interest in this blog. Happy Fathers Day to you too.

- 2.0


Great right up 2.0!!

I get to about 7 jets games a year but haven’t missed watching one since they came back. I will PVR if travelling for work. I also get to at least 1-3 Moose games and love seeing how they are doing. This year will be no different as I’m guessing Vesalainen starts on the moose and I will be curious to see how Stanley progresses. I will also love to see how Harkins, spacek, Appleton, seuse, and others will look.

As for off topic questions;

I’ve said on here before with ehlers, Connor, Vesalainen all playing left wing I can see us using one of these guys as a trade chip down the road to fill a more pressing positional need elsewhere. We also currently still have Perreault, Copp, Petan Lemieux who all shoot left and can play left side as well.

I wonder if anyone knows how Teleguin or kravkoski are doing in the KHL? I know neither are super young anymore but also neither are old. I wonder if either have interest in the NHL, are they good enough to make it? For some reason I think Teleguin’s contract finished up last year in the kHL.

Happy Father’s Day everyone!!! I myself have two little ones and it’s the best!!!!
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