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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

May 22 @ 10:41 AM ET
Todd Cordell: The New Jersey Devils should target Calvin de Haan in free agency
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: YOUTHS
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 22 @ 10:46 AM ET
Sorry, he is mine. I called him
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

May 22 @ 10:50 AM ET
Sorry, he is mine. I called him
- YuenglingJagr



Sign and trade for Provorov.
nyislsbossy
Joined: 05.31.2016

May 22 @ 10:57 AM ET
we see Moore is likely to be paid in the $3.4 million range annually while de Haan's cost is projected to be ~$1.7 million.


1.7 mil for dehaan? gimme some of that k2 your smoking. he will get way more than that. 4-5 mil is my guess
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

May 22 @ 11:00 AM ET
we see Moore is likely to be paid in the $3.4 million range annually while de Haan's cost is projected to be ~$1.7 million.


1.7 mil for dehaan? gimme some of that k2 your smoking. he will get way more than that. 4-5 mil is my guess

- nyislsbossy


"Using Matt Cane's free agent projections"

"I think getting de Haan at that price is a little optimistic"

Glad you read before you criticize.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

May 22 @ 11:05 AM ET
It's a little sad to hear the Rangers are going in heavy on Erik Karlsson and the Devils should target Calvin de Hann.

Also, de Hann made $3.3M last year. I don't know how the program works but expecting to pay $ 1.7M for a 27 year old defender seems a little facocta. $1.7M sounds like maybe half price at best which is a bit beyond a little optimistic.

That's not meant as a criticism of you, Todd. Just saying Matt Cane seems off on this one.
CaptCrankypants
New Jersey Devils
Location: None of your business
Joined: 04.27.2014

May 22 @ 11:08 AM ET
He's not going to get 4-5 million, either. He's coming off a bad injury and played for a defensive train-wreck. Not to mention he's only played a full season once in his career. I'd expect a contract for him to be around the $3-3.5 million range. Basically what he made last year.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

May 22 @ 11:15 AM ET
He's not going to get 4-5 million, either. He's coming off a bad injury and played for a defensive train-wreck. Not to mention he's only played a full season once in his career. I'd expect a contract for him to be around the $3-3.5 million range. Basically what he made last year.
- CaptCrankypants


You could be right, but I'll take the over.
nyislsbossy
Joined: 05.31.2016

May 22 @ 11:22 AM ET
Using Matt Cane's free agent projections​, WHICH ARE GENERALLY PRETTY ACCURATE,

well he is way off on this one is all i'm saying
PapaSquat
Florida Panthers
Location: Smokes Crack :), NY
Joined: 06.02.2015

May 22 @ 11:24 AM ET
I like John Moore
Devilspep87
New Jersey Devils
Location: Devils Land, NJ
Joined: 05.05.2017

May 22 @ 11:24 AM ET
De haan would be an upgrade over Moore but the Devils would still be a lower seed which fizzles out in the first round. A bigger move needs to be in the picture.
CaptCrankypants
New Jersey Devils
Location: None of your business
Joined: 04.27.2014

May 22 @ 11:25 AM ET
It's a little sad to hear the Rangers are going in heavy on Erik Karlsson and the Devils should target Calvin de Hann.

Also, de Hann made $3.3M last year. I don't know how the program works but expecting to pay $ 1.7M for a 27 year old defender seems a little facocta. $1.7M sounds like maybe half price at best which is a bit beyond a little optimistic.

That's not meant as a criticism of you, Todd. Just saying Matt Cane seems off on this one.

- Queenie_5_hole

From what I remember of the model, ice time, special teams and points are the main factors (there might be a couple things I'm forgetting). It's based on what teams have paid for in the past. It's done well enough overall that SportsNet has used it in their free agency coverage. It's still going to be wrong most of the time because it's trying to project salaries of free agent negotiations.
CaptCrankypants
New Jersey Devils
Location: None of your business
Joined: 04.27.2014

May 22 @ 11:26 AM ET
I like John Moore
- PapaSquat

He sucks. He tricks people into thinking he's a puck moving dman because he's a good skater and has a good shot, but he's bad defensively and he can't make a pass.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

May 22 @ 11:34 AM ET
Dont fear the Rangers. No one will go to them especially when other teams can offer the same $$ and actually win. Rangers are on decline with no goalie past Henrik. If EK65 wants to win he'll look at NJ over NYR any day.
CaptCrankypants
New Jersey Devils
Location: None of your business
Joined: 04.27.2014

May 22 @ 11:35 AM ET
You could be right, but I'll take the over.
- Queenie_5_hole

Based on his play when he's healthy, he's worth more than 3.5. But he made 3.3 last year and he only played 33 games.

The only thing that makes me think he could make more than that is the free agent market for blue-liners is so awful there might be multiple teams bidding for his services.
nyislsbossy
Joined: 05.31.2016

May 22 @ 11:43 AM ET
Based on his play when he's healthy, he's worth more than 3.5. But he made 3.3 last year and he only played 33 games.

The only thing that makes me think he could make more than that is the free agent market for blue-liners is so awful there might be multiple teams bidding for his services.

- CaptCrankypants



if i recall isls offered him 4 - 4.5 for 4 yrs and he asked for 5-5.5 and ended up settling with his 3.3 1 yr deal to get him to ufa status
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: We are never not our boys, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 22 @ 11:59 AM ET
I like John Moore
- PapaSquat

He’s all yours
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

May 22 @ 12:05 PM ET
At 4-5 million long term I would stay away. Don't have any other good solutions for the left side though.
PapaSquat
Florida Panthers
Location: Smokes Crack :), NY
Joined: 06.02.2015

May 22 @ 1:39 PM ET
we see Moore is likely to be paid in the $3.4 million range annually while de Haan's cost is projected to be ~$1.7 million.


1.7 mil for dehaan? gimme some of that k2 your smoking. he will get way more than that. 4-5 mil is my guess

- nyislsbossy


K2 will kill you - so yes, here you go
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 22 @ 3:08 PM ET
Devils should consider Gardiner
thechezman
New Jersey Devils
Location: 9083103373, NJ
Joined: 04.24.2016

May 22 @ 3:21 PM ET
I like de Hann

Greene -Vatanen
Mueller -Boucher
De Haan -Severson
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Santini - Lovejoy
CaptCrankypants
New Jersey Devils
Location: None of your business
Joined: 04.27.2014

May 22 @ 3:59 PM ET
Devils should consider Gardiner
- mr.sir

If it's buying low, I'm all for it.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

May 22 @ 4:29 PM ET
From what I hear of this Russian kid, I get the vibe he plays like Vats.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
Using Matt Cane's free agent projections​, WHICH ARE GENERALLY PRETTY ACCURATE,

well he is way off on this one is all i'm saying

- nyislsbossy

He’s way off on a whole bunch of his projections.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 22 @ 4:58 PM ET
"Using Matt Cane's free agent projections"

"I think getting de Haan at that price is a little optimistic"

Glad you read before you criticize.

- Todd.Cordell

Never use Matt Canes projections. They’re awful.
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