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jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 24 @ 12:33 PM ET
For the right amount of money, Khudobin, Johnson, Hutchinson (he sure made the Hawks look silly for a year or so), Bernier.

Ward wouldn't be horrible, but Hutton i don't trust.

All depends on the money though.

- BlazinMike


Here is what I would like to see happen;

Crawford returns and is just as good as we are accustomed to. The team had a few more victories, playing competitively but just falls short often.

Clearly an upgrade on defense and another top forward is in order. Actually no matter whom they draft at #8, the team sorely needs a Tzachuk type to be the focus on a second line. With Kane on another line, that means Edjsell works out exactly how? I do not foresee him as that big center third line. I do foresee too much scoring ability but not the tough nosed aggressive center in his future. On him and a whole bunch of prospects the upcoming season is a developmental season.

At the trade deadline make a decision whether buyer or seller. There would be about 15-20 home games remaining before a likely work stoppage the following season. Yes, I predict as much as half a season will be lost

So I believe they are sellers at the trade deadline. Big question: are you comfortable after nearly a second AHL season for Delia, to give him the job or alternate with the back up? Trade Crawford. A contender needs his experience to overcome the past year's goaltending playoff weakness.

I want to do something along the line of Crawford and Gus plus if necessary our #2 for their #1.
Crawford is getting old and get value for him before he turns older. He would be neat the end of his contract. Right now I do not know the strength of the 2019 draft. But building through the draft is the system to go

Besides the trade there must be a very clear implication that we are going with kids. We haven signed plenty of the prospects and I would like to see good and plenty of them in Chicago by late next season
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 24 @ 12:41 PM ET
For the right amount of money, Khudobin, Johnson, Hutchinson (he sure made the Hawks look silly for a year or so), Bernier.

Ward wouldn't be horrible, but Hutton i don't trust.

All depends on the money though.

- BlazinMike

The FA goalies that both you and Colby have referenced are the exact six I would like the Hawks to pursue as potential backup options or even stop-gap starter options if Crawford is not 100% healthy. I don't really have an order of preference but for some reason I have gut feeling that Hutton wouldn't want to return to Chicago.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 24 @ 12:47 PM ET
Again, FWIW, Eklund is reporting that the Isles are looking at Crawford and Raanta (I'm guessing that's either/or, not both) as a way to leverage Tavares to re-sign.

If Crawford, I would definitely ask for at least one of their #1 draft picks this summer.

Lee would be a dream and Bailey would be a great 2/3C option (defensively sound and has ramped up his offense the past two seasons) as part of a return but I would imagine Tavares would say "no thank you" if certain teammates are traded away.

Barzal is out of the question. Realistic options are guys like Nelson, Pulock, and even Leddy. Hickey and de Haan are UFAs so no trade needed.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 24 @ 1:17 PM ET
I don't agree. He got a stud defenseman for Drouin, who hasn't lit it up in Montreal. They were the best team in hockey this year, and getting to the ECF is not something wrong. As we all know, getting past any round of the playoffs is a monumental task. Yzerman can't lace them up and go will his team to victory, but he absolutely gave his team the best assets to work with. Sometimes you just don't win, I don't put any of that on Yzerman.

He got Stamkos and Hedman on discounts, he doesn't hand out NMCs to every guy he resigns. His worst contract is Callahan, who at least serves a role on their team. He has his work cut out for him after this season with Point, Kucherov as RFAs and McDonagh, Stralman, Coburn, Girardi, and Gourde all as UFAs.

To be a great GM you give your team the best 'team on paper' that you possibly can, and have a good coach. I think we all agree that the Lightning were the best team on paper this postseason, and Cooper is still a very good coach.

Everyone relishing in Tampa losing because you're envious of their GM needs to take some of the Bickell, Panarin, Panik, Daley, Timmonen, Seabrook salt out of their wounds.

- ObeseOprah


Lot of what you say is true, but the fact is he has made all the decisions and built this team and another fail. People have anointed him the next messiah of hockey?, and fans in Chicago can't wait to get rid of Bowman and Q and would love to replace him with Yzerman and Cooper.

Supposedly the Hawks won their 3 cups in spite of Q and Bowman, i know you haven't said that...
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

May 24 @ 1:17 PM ET
1st move go get Mark Hunter to run your Draft !!!!! Next deal Crow and the 27th pick to NYI for their two 1st picks . Then Deal Keith to Florida for Petrovic Heponiemi and their 15th pick . 4 picks in top 15 10 mil cap room and the rebuild is kick started !!! ..And oh ya Fire Coach Q !!!!!!
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 24 @ 1:22 PM ET
1st move go get Mark Hunter to run your Draft !!!!! Next deal Crow and the 27th pick to NYI for their two 1st picks . Then Deal Keith to Florida for Petrovic Heponiemi and their 15th pick . 4 picks in top 15 10 mil cap room and the rebuild is kick started !!! ..And oh ya Fire Coach Q !!!!!!
- oldduffman



Glorious Cap Space!!!!!
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

May 24 @ 1:30 PM ET
Didn't see the post game interview with Wilson, CBC had Ovi as their interview.

Tom Wilson has done some very stupid things out there in his career and been suspended for them. He's a hit to hurt type player, just like Chris Pronger, Messier, Dustin Brown and others were. Fans can hate Wilson's guts but he played very hard and smart in this series. And as a result he was one of the difference makers for Washington. Usually to win a Cup and protect smaller teammates with skill, teams need a player like that.

- RickJ


I don’t have a problem with a “hit to hurt” player. I do have a problem with those who hit to injure; personally think there is no place in the game for that and that the league needs to deal more harshly with head shots and such.

I’ve always accepted that a good check is to hurt the other player; to cause enough discomfort to either wear them down or make them question whether they want to do something that puts them in position to get hit again. That’s all I am asking for. If Tom Wilson could play within hat framework, I think he would be a great addition....also have to think there are 20 guys in caps’ uniforms that will not want to see him leave.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

May 24 @ 2:08 PM ET
Yzerman and Cooper join Poile in the Fellowship of No Rings that many here worship as "successful"
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

May 24 @ 2:08 PM ET
I don’t have a problem with a “hit to hurt” player. I do have a problem with those who hit to injure; personally think there is no place in the game for that and that the league needs to deal more harshly with head shots and such.

I’ve always accepted that a good check is to hurt the other player; to cause enough discomfort to either wear them down or make them question whether they want to do something that puts them in position to get hit again. That’s all I am asking for. If Tom Wilson could play within hat framework, I think he would be a great addition....also have to think there are 20 guys in caps’ uniforms that will not want to see him leave.

- Spec41971


i agree with you...its a physical game...wilson aimes to injure and he does not play in control...since the nhl still wants itself known as a vigilante league than i seriously hope someone annilates wilson before he ends someones carreer....maybe someone on the knights will oblige...

to hell with the wilson and the caps...go Knights...in 5..

would luv nothing more than ovie and trotz get a taste and lose...
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

May 24 @ 2:14 PM ET
People bashed Stan and Bickell for his 4mil dollar contract when all he did was score clutch after clutch goal in Cup #2 run. And was a physical force. And wasn't a cheap shot artist while doing it

Yet...want them to sign Tom Wilson - who has half the goal production and will want probably more than the 4mil Bickell was "over paid"?
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 24 @ 2:16 PM ET
I don’t have a problem with a “hit to hurt” player. I do have a problem with those who hit to injure; personally think there is no place in the game for that and that the league needs to deal more harshly with head shots and such.

I’ve always accepted that a good check is to hurt the other player; to cause enough discomfort to either wear them down or make them question whether they want to do something that puts them in position to get hit again. That’s all I am asking for. If Tom Wilson could play within hat framework, I think he would be a great addition....also have to think there are 20 guys in caps’ uniforms that will not want to see him leave.

- Spec41971

Great post on discerning between hit to injure and hit to hurt. Agree, stark difference that matters. The playoffs especially has always been dubbed a "war of attrition" and hitting to hurt is a part of the equation.

Fine line as well for the players. An even finer line for the referees and NHL Department of Player Safety to adjudicate.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

May 24 @ 2:31 PM ET
Glorious Cap Space!!!!!
- DarthKane

Don't forget the top 1st picks and Mark Hunter to oversee them ..Gold Jerry Pure Gold
Savoy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spencer, NC
Joined: 01.15.2014

May 24 @ 2:31 PM ET
Crawford was playing better than ever before he got hurt. He was carrying this team. As long as Crawford is healthy trading him would be almost as destructive to the Hawks as trading Panarin was.
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

May 24 @ 2:37 PM ET
Okayyyyyy, late to the party, who is Bowman looking at taking in return, and then who is going to play golf? The accountant from The beer league, Forsberg, glass, I think not., Hopefully he has a plan.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 24 @ 2:42 PM ET
Crawford was playing better than ever before he got hurt. He was carrying this team. As long as Crawford is healthy trading him would be almost as destructive to the Hawks as trading Panarin was.
- Savoy

I personally wouldn't trade Crawford either. He's a key part of a Blackhawk resurgence if the goal is to make that start next season. My previous post was just fantasy trading if Bowman is seriously considering a trade with the Islanders.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 24 @ 2:45 PM ET
Yzerman and Cooper join Poile in the Fellowship of No Rings that many here worship as "successful"
- PatShart


Yes, the "not even one club"
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 24 @ 2:46 PM ET
Don't forget the top 1st picks and Mark Hunter to oversee them ..Gold Jerry Pure Gold
- oldduffman

Did you write this from Mindy's?
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

May 24 @ 2:48 PM ET
I don’t have a problem with a “hit to hurt” player. I do have a problem with those who hit to injure; personally think there is no place in the game for that and that the league needs to deal more harshly with head shots and such.

I’ve always accepted that a good check is to hurt the other player; to cause enough discomfort to either wear them down or make them question whether they want to do something that puts them in position to get hit again. That’s all I am asking for. If Tom Wilson could play within hat framework, I think he would be a great addition....also have to think there are 20 guys in caps’ uniforms that will not want to see him leave.

- Spec41971


A “hit to hurt” player IS a “hit to injure” player. There are not two definitions. A player who takes the body safely and legally is not seen as a “hit to hurt” player.

In every game there are lots of opportunities for both teams to absolutely destroy a defenseless player. Most players respect other players too much to do this. Many players will take the body but not in a manner that could cause serious injury or brain damage. Idiots like Nick Kypreos will say “well we will be left with no hitting in the game.” Shut up Nick. The NFL is as brutally physical as it is possible to be. However, DBs and LBs are no longer allowed to just destroy defenseless receivers - the NFL did this - the NFL. If the NHL is really serious about preventing serious injuries and brain injuries a defenseless rule needs to be instituted. Right now the micro-analysis that is done regarding certain hits is absurb. Arguments such as the hit actually involved the shoulder first and destoyed the player’s brain secondarily - absurdity.

Tom Wilson looks to put players in the hospital, looks to end careers. He is clearly a headhunter. Like those before him these type of players find it very difficult to play within the rules. I’m sorry I just don’t want such a player to be a Hawk. Toughness is one thing, crazy is another.

Colbyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 12.14.2013

May 24 @ 2:59 PM ET
For the right amount of money, Khudobin, Johnson, Hutchinson (he sure made the Hawks look silly for a year or so), Bernier.

Ward wouldn't be horrible, but Hutton i don't trust.

All depends on the money though.

- BlazinMike


Hutton may have earned a starters job with how he played in relief in St Louis-


Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

May 24 @ 3:34 PM ET
1st move go get Mark Hunter to run your Draft !!!!! Next deal Crow and the 27th pick to NYI for their two 1st picks . Then Deal Keith to Florida for Petrovic Heponiemi and their 15th pick . 4 picks in top 15 10 mil cap room and the rebuild is kick started !!! ..And oh ya Fire Coach Q !!!!!!
- oldduffman


While I agree, the Hawks could use a guy like Mark Hunter on staff for drafting prowess, he can't work for another NHL team until July.

Also, he wants to be a GM, so if he joins the Hawks it would only because he thinks Stan Bowman could potentially be on his way out in the next couple of years (to which he may not be wrong).
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 24 @ 3:59 PM ET
While I agree, the Hawks could use a guy like Mark Hunter on staff for drafting prowess, he can't work for another NHL team until July.

Also, he wants to be a GM, so if he joins the Hawks it would only because he thinks Stan Bowman could potentially be on his way out in the next couple of years (to which he may not be wrong).

- Justin Lowe

Justin or anyone else, from what you know about Norm Maciver, do you think he has the credentials and wherewithal to be a good NHL GM? If there is an internal candidate to replace Bowman, he'd be it.
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

May 24 @ 4:08 PM ET
A “hit to hurt” player IS a “hit to injure” player. There are not two definitions. A player who takes the body safely and legally is not seen as a “hit to hurt” player.

In every game there are lots of opportunities for both teams to absolutely destroy a defenseless player. Most players respect other players too much to do this. Many players will take the body but not in a manner that could cause serious injury or brain damage. Idiots like Nick Kypreos will say “well we will be left with no hitting in the game.” Shut up Nick. The NFL is as brutally physical as it is possible to be. However, DBs and LBs are no longer allowed to just destroy defenseless receivers - the NFL did this - the NFL. If the NHL is really serious about preventing serious injuries and brain injuries a defenseless rule needs to be instituted. Right now the micro-analysis that is done regarding certain hits is absurb. Arguments such as the hit actually involved the shoulder first and destoyed the player’s brain secondarily - absurdity.

Tom Wilson looks to put players in the hospital, looks to end careers. He is clearly a headhunter. Like those before him these type of players find it very difficult to play within the rules. I’m sorry I just don’t want such a player to be a Hawk. Toughness is one thing, crazy is another.

- Z3Hawk


Respectfully disagree and believe there is a distinction — and a fine line — between hitting to hurt and hitting to injure.

As a poster mentionioned shortly before your latest, Bickell could really lay on the hard hit; those had to hurt and those were the ones an opposing player would avoid at the expense of their play — we’ve all seen players get rid of the puck earlier than they should have to avoid that hit.

I am completely opposed to “destroying” an opponent and putting them in the hospital and jeopardize a career. But I do believe if you aren’t trying to put some aches and pains on an opponent with the occasional hard check, then you might as well not ever hit somebody.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 24 @ 4:19 PM ET
FROM - ToddCordell (another blogger on Hockey Buzz
Matt Cane of HockeyGraphs recently released his annual contract projections for pending free agents​, be it unrestricted or restricted.

Hino $1.148 mil 2 yrs
Hayden $830,000 two years
Duclair $1.179 mil two years
Clendenning $717,000 1 year
Jurco $792,000 1 year
Didomenico $844,000 1 year
Martinsen $724,000 1 year

Hartman $1.75 mil 2 years
Kempny $1.24 mil 2 years
J Carlson $8.635 mil for 8 years
Neal $4.3 mil 1 year
JVR $5.3 mil 3 years
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

May 24 @ 4:36 PM ET
Respectfully disagree and believe there is a distinction — and a fine line — between hitting to hurt and hitting to injure.

As a poster mentionioned shortly before your latest, Bickell could really lay on the hard hit; those had to hurt and those were the ones an opposing player would avoid at the expense of their play — we’ve all seen players get rid of the puck earlier than they should have to avoid that hit.

I am completely opposed to “destroying” an opponent and putting them in the hospital and jeopardize a career. But I do believe if you aren’t trying to put some aches and pains on an opponent with the occasional hard check, then you might as well not ever hit somebody.

- Spec41971


Legal hard checks that cause aches and pains in the normal course aren’t the result of “hitting to hurt.” You could put the definition of “hurt” anywhere on the continuum I suppose but normally “hitting to hurt” goes beyond a legal hard hit that rattles an opponent.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 24 @ 4:55 PM ET
FROM - ToddCordell (another blogger on Hockey Buzz
Matt Cane of HockeyGraphs recently released his annual contract projections for pending free agents​, be it unrestricted or restricted.

Hino $1.148 mil 2 yrs
Hayden $830,000 two years
Duclair $1.179 mil two years
Clendenning $717,000 1 year
Jurco $792,000 1 year
Didomenico $844,000 1 year
Martinsen $724,000 1 year

Hartman $1.75 mil 2 years
Kempny $1.24 mil 2 years
J Carlson $8.635 mil for 8 years
Neal $4.3 mil 1 year
JVR $5.3 mil 3 years

- -Doh-

For the current Hawks, I think those are fair salaries and term for each player so that any of them are affordable enough for Bowman to retain within the team cap and not handcuff him to pursue bigger fish.
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