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Forums :: Blog World :: Todd Cordell: The Brodie - Hamonic pairing was a disaster for the Calgary Flames
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 17 @ 10:35 AM ET
O-G were you in a Timmies in Langley lately???
- Iggysbff



No bud....but if I was I would have bought you a honey cruller!
cpltanto
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.05.2013

May 17 @ 11:56 AM ET
Peters already commented that Brodie was a right defenseman in his opinion. That causes a major problem for Treliving because he has a right defense of Hamilton, Brodie, Hamonic, Stone and Anderson with Fox waiting in the wings. He also has a left defense of Giordano, Kulak, Wotherspoon and Kylington with Valamaki in the wings.

It is quite possible that Valimaki and Fox are a number 1 pairing 5 years from now but at this time left side defense is pretty thin and the right side is overcrowded.

The first step has to be trading Stone, second step is to trade either Brodie or Hamonic. The won't get much for Stone but they didn't pay much. They won't get much for Hamonic or Brodie and that is an embarrassment. The tough choice is who will fit with Kulak on the second pairing and improve in value over the season. The best solution may be to start with:
Gio Hamilton
Kulak Brodie
Valimaki Anderson
Wotherspoon

and end the season
Gio Hamilton
Valimaki Brodie
Kulak Anderson
Wotherspoon

However it will be an answer to prayer if I never see Stone Bartkowski again as a Flames pairing. Maybe the Oilers are interested

- Chucky



Peters said he thinks Brodie should be playing RD? When was this?
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

May 17 @ 12:17 PM ET
Peters said he thinks Brodie should be playing RD? When was this?
- cpltanto


He never actually said that. Without finding the actual quote, he basically said that Brodie has played the right side well. He said that he likes the left/right pairs, but won't stick to that if it isn't working.
shayne
Joined: 07.15.2016

May 17 @ 12:31 PM ET
He never actually said that. Without finding the actual quote, he basically said that Brodie has played the right side well. He said that he likes the left/right pairs, but won't stick to that if it isn't working.
- dr_soiledpants



He said it in his introduction interview.
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

May 17 @ 1:09 PM ET
He said it in his introduction interview.
- shayne


Yes, I've listened to it. He never said Brodie should be playing on the right side. He acknowledged that he had success there. Then on the morning show he said he'll be open minded. Those are his exact words.
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

May 17 @ 1:13 PM ET
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...ster-world-championships/

Start listening at around 430.

https://www.nhl.com/flame...ce/t-277437092/c-60070603

Start at about 1430
cpltanto
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.05.2013

May 17 @ 5:56 PM ET
https://www.sportsnet.ca/960/boomer-morning/bill-peters-coaching-alberta-calgarys-roster-world-championships/

Start listening at around 430.

https://www.nhl.com/flame...ce/t-277437092/c-60070603

Start at about 1430

- dr_soiledpants


ah yes I remember that...that is FAR different than claiming the coach said he thinks he SHOULD be a right d-man
itwasin
Location: It Was In - June 5 2004, AB
Joined: 09.28.2013

May 18 @ 10:42 AM ET
So after 82 games of futility, we should blame the hole and the peg?



What sense makes that?
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 18 @ 11:57 AM ET
So after 82 games of futility, we should blame the hole and the peg?



What sense makes that?

- itwasin


Brodie had a bad year. It happens. Don't know why we have to keep talking about it every day
itwasin
Location: It Was In - June 5 2004, AB
Joined: 09.28.2013

May 18 @ 12:37 PM ET
Brodie had a bad year. It happens. Don't know why we have to keep talking about it every day
- The-O-G


Agree 110%. It's not like GG had no alternatives. A year ago I probably would have thought that but after watching Vegas in the playoffs, I hope Flames mgmt can learn something from Vegas' success about rewarding teamwork, effort and motivation. Wouldn't hurt to remember he's a human being too and his personal issues I wouldn't wish on anyone.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

May 18 @ 1:12 PM ET
Hey Todd. Do you have any insight on whether CGY has been or should be looking at any European, college or CHL free agents? With very few picks in this draft I would think they are looking aggressively at adding a few young guys by other means.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

May 18 @ 2:04 PM ET
It never made a ton of sense why so many people thought the pairing would work. This past year wasn't an aberration. Both Hamonic and Brodie have been trending downwards for the past few seasons.

Bringing in Hamonic was baffling since they resigned Stone anyway. If you look at the fancy stats from Hamonic's last few seasons in New York and Stone's stats from the same time period, there really wasn't anything that stood out why you'd pick one over the other. Stone was also the only partner Brodie has really meshed with since Gio and Hamilton paired up.

Hamonic's a great guy and all that, but they really should have at least tried switching him and Stone last year.
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