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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 16 @ 2:09 PM ET
Who thinks Brown gets traded over Kapanen?
- Aaron_85


i'm sticking to brown being our best trade chip with edmonton.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

May 16 @ 2:10 PM ET
Fair deal.
- Aaron_85

Say bye bye to your location Weedy
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 16 @ 2:10 PM ET
sounds like they will be shopping him. i don't get it. multiple maybes is what you get, pretty standard package.

straight up it's kadri for hamilton. works on our side if the leafs sign tavares.

- Tumbleweed


Would be a fair trade, the big if is JT. We know that Burkie loves his belligerent dirty players - throw in Martin.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

May 16 @ 2:10 PM ET
sounds like they will be shopping him. i don't get it. multiple maybes is what you get, pretty standard package.

straight up it's kadri for hamilton. works on our side if the leafs sign tavares.

- Tumbleweed


Sorry, you never give Kadri up unless its for an all star level player. His contract is way too valuable, you wouldnt be able to replace him. His type of contract is what allows teams to stay competitive.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 16 @ 2:10 PM ET
Say bye bye to your location Weedy
- RickJames77


we'll see. i realize that it bucks the convention.

i think the change is coming.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

May 16 @ 2:11 PM ET
Would be a fair trade, the big if is JT. We know that Burkie loves his belligerent dirty players - throw in Martin.
- winsix


Burke quit.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

May 16 @ 2:12 PM ET
i'm sticking to brown being our best trade chip with edmonton.
- Tumbleweed


I think he's our best trade chip period. I think he's more expendable than others probably do. Kapanen is the guy Dubas wanted in the Kessel deal and wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to send a message to Babcock that he's in charge and trades away a favourite player.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 16 @ 2:13 PM ET
Burke quit.
- Aaron_85


That's right, he's a media type now.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 16 @ 2:13 PM ET
Who thinks Brown gets traded over Kapanen?
- Aaron_85

Leafs fans have over-rated Kapanen.

I’m not saying he is a bad player. But if we traded him for a defenceman, I would wave goodbye and not regret it.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 16 @ 2:14 PM ET
Call up Vlad


Ben Nicholson-Smith
‏Verified account @bnicholsonsmith
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 2:14 PM ET
I can't wait for the fire sale. It's going to be so much fun this year. I feel bad for Carolina fans but I need the entertainment and there's never a lot of player movement in the cap era.
- Aaron_85



I guess with Waddell anything is possible; Hopefully, he learned nothing after he was fired from Atlanta.

While in Atlanta;

Traded 22 year old Braydon Coburn for 34 year old Alexei Zhitnik

Traded Glen Metropolit, 2007 1st round pick, 2007 3rd round pick and a 2008 2nd round pick for a 34 year old Keith Tkachuk

Traded Marian Hossa and Pascal Dupuis for Colby Armstrong, Erik Christensen, Angelo Esposito, 2008 1st round pick

Traded Ilya Kovalchuk, Anssi Salmela, and 2010 2nd round pick for Nicklas Bergfors, Patrice Cormier, Johnny Oduya, 2010 1st round pick and a 2010 2nd round pick

Traded Kari Lehtonen for Ivan Vishnevskiy and 2010 4th round pick.



Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 16 @ 2:14 PM ET
Sorry, you never give Kadri up unless its for an all star level player. His contract is way too valuable, you wouldnt be able to replace him. His type of contract is what allows teams to stay competitive.
- Archaic

I was just going to post this.

100%
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 16 @ 2:15 PM ET
Leafs fans have over-rated Kapanen.

I’m not saying he is a bad player. But if we traded him for a defenceman, I would wave goodbye and not regret it.

- Atomic Wedgie


Kapanen for Andrew McDonald?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 16 @ 2:17 PM ET
Kapanen for Andrew McDonald?
- senstroll


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 2:19 PM ET
Kapanen for Andrew McDonald?
- senstroll



Kapanen for Petry?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 16 @ 2:20 PM ET
Sorry, you never give Kadri up unless its for an all star level player. His contract is way too valuable, you wouldnt be able to replace him. His type of contract is what allows teams to stay competitive.
- Archaic


if we sign tavares, somebody up front will need to go.

hamilton is good value on his deal too.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 16 @ 2:21 PM ET
Kapanen for Petry?
- PatC80


I believe i've already talked about my current Petry hate with him being either amazing or completely useless.

Despite that.

I wouldn't make that trade.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 16 @ 2:21 PM ET
if we sign tavares, somebody up front will need to go.

hamilton is good value on his deal too.

- Tumbleweed


Yes... "Somebody"
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 16 @ 2:23 PM ET
if we sign tavares, somebody up front will need to go.

hamilton is good value on his deal too.

- Tumbleweed


Marleau and Martin will leave in 2 years.

JVR, Komarov and Bozak are leaving.

I don't think anyone else has to go to make it work.

Just won't be able to spend big on defense is all.

ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

May 16 @ 2:24 PM ET
Leafs fans have over-rated Kapanen.

I’m not saying he is a bad player. But if we traded him for a defenceman, I would wave goodbye and not regret it.

- Atomic Wedgie

Same. I like him but definitely move him.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 16 @ 2:26 PM ET

dellowhockey
‏Verified account @dellowhockey
Interesting listening to Rishaug speculating that the Oilers will go hard for a big name D; suggested Klefbom + 10 for Risto as an example.


Holy poop fold the Oilers if they did that.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 16 @ 2:28 PM ET
Marleau and Martin will leave in 2 years.

JVR, Komarov and Bozak are leaving.

I don't think anyone else has to go to make it work.

Just won't be able to spend big on defense is all.

- Scabeh


that's the problem.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 16 @ 2:28 PM ET
Leafs fans have over-rated Kapanen.

I’m not saying he is a bad player. But if we traded him for a defenceman, I would wave goodbye and not regret it.

- Atomic Wedgie


I would move him for a quality d-man, Leafs already have enough 5-6 guys. I would add that Kapanen has been highly rated for many years - going back to his draft in 2014 when he was the highest rated European in the draft. The Euros were superior to the NA kids that year. (central scouting)

North American / European

1 Canada Sam Bennett (C)/ Finland Kasperi Kapanen (C)
2 Canada Aaron Ekblad (D)/ Sweden William Nylander (C/RW)
3 Canada Sam Reinhart (C)/ Switzerland Kevin Fiala (LW)
4 Germany Leon Draisaitl (C)/ Czech Republic Jakub Vrana (LW/RW)
5 Canada Michael Dal Colle (C/LW)/ Czech Republic David Pastrnak (RW)
6 Canada Jake Virtanen (RW) / Sweden Adrian Kempe (LW)
7 Canada Nick Ritchie (LW)/ Sweden Marcus Pettersson (D)
8 Canada Brendan Perlini (LW)/ Czech Republic Ondrej Kase (RW)
9 Canada Haydn Fleury (D)/ Sweden Sebastian Aho (D)
10 Canada Jared McCann (C)/ Czech Republic Dominik Masin (D)
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 2:28 PM ET
Holy poop fold the Oilers if they did that.
- senstroll



Klefbom and the #10 pick for Ristolainen?

Risto is younger, but that is a steep price to pay...
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 16 @ 2:30 PM ET
Klefbom and the #10 pick for Ristolainen?

Risto is younger, but that is a steep price to pay...

- PatC80


seems like a legit price for chia to pay for a PP specialist that can't play defence.
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