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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

May 15 @ 10:04 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Kuhnahckl boondoggle Kuhnhackl boondoggle
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

May 15 @ 10:11 AM ET
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Washington, DC
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 15 @ 10:16 AM ET
Kuhnhackl is fine as the worst skater on the team/13th forward at a 600k cap hit. However there is just no reason to give him north of 800k when you can sign a guy to vet minimum who would be just as effective.
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

May 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
I don't know why we have to have discussions about Tom K, his salary is effectively league min. If you want someone better than him, you have to pay, but I want the absolute min price tag on my 4th line. I think we should keep him as long as possible because he doesn't expect to be paid 1M like some 4th liners do.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 15 @ 10:45 AM ET
I don't know why we have to have discussions about Tom K, his salary is effectively league min. If you want someone better than him, you have to pay, but I want the absolute min price tag on my 4th line. I think we should keep him as long as possible because he doesn't expect to be paid 1M like some 4th liners do.
- joecool2931


Because he is an option to be resigned or let go. I assume in the coming days RW is gonna go over all of the Pens options. Why wouldn't a RFA-to-be be discussed?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Washington, DC
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 15 @ 10:50 AM ET
I don't know why we have to have discussions about Tom K, his salary is effectively league min. If you want someone better than him, you have to pay, but I want the absolute min price tag on my 4th line. I think we should keep him as long as possible because he doesn't expect to be paid 1M like some 4th liners do.
- joecool2931

Also if we resign all of our RFA, we’ll have 14 wingers on this team. Right now we have an overload so it makes sense to let Kuhnhackl go.
Feds91Stammer
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Tatar Fan Boy, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 15 @ 10:51 AM ET
I don't know why we have to have discussions about Tom K, his salary is effectively league min. If you want someone better than him, you have to pay, but I want the absolute min price tag on my 4th line. I think we should keep him as long as possible because he doesn't expect to be paid 1M like some 4th liners do.
- joecool2931

Absolutely terrible logic here.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
https://www.pensburgh.com...slanders-contracts-rumors

Anyone see this? hahahaaha
RuutuRock’emLikeU2#37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.27.2018

May 15 @ 11:39 AM ET
I don't know why we have to have discussions about Tom K, his salary is effectively league min. If you want someone better than him, you have to pay, but I want the absolute min price tag on my 4th line. I think we should keep him as long as possible because he doesn't expect to be paid 1M like some 4th liners do.
- joecool2931



Because someone like Sprong isn't given a chance instead when he wouldn't be any more of a liability and has much higher offensive upside.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 15 @ 11:54 AM ET
In a nutshell: Unless you're scoring 40 goals a year, any player with possession metrics under 50% is useless. Got it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 15 @ 11:55 AM ET
Because someone like Sprong isn't given a chance instead when he wouldn't be any more of a liability and has much higher offensive upside.
- RuutuRock’emLikeU2#37


Sprong would be wasted on the 4th line.

Apples to lemons.
RuutuRock’emLikeU2#37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.27.2018

May 15 @ 11:59 AM ET
Sprong would be wasted on the 4th line.

Apples to lemons.

- jmatchett383



And the organization is getting their monies worth with him having spent extra time in the QMJHL and the AHL.

Oranges to pears
Streit2ThePoint
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Vegas, Chicago, Detroit, Carolina, Montreal, Seattle Seahawks, St Louis Blogger, and Screaming Eagle
Joined: 09.20.2013

May 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
Because someone like Sprong isn't given a chance instead when he wouldn't be any more of a liability and has much higher offensive upside.
- RuutuRock’emLikeU2#37


this is the worst username to have ever existed
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 15 @ 12:02 PM ET
And the organization is getting their monies worth with him having spent extra time in the QMJHL and the AHL.

Oranges to pears

- RuutuRock’emLikeU2#37


The thing is, Tom K and Sprong aren't competing for the same role. Sprong should be getting top-9 (preferably top-6) minutes. Kuhkahckl is a 4th line/13th forward. Jettisoning him and his near-league-minimum salary would have no impact on Sprong making the roster or not.

Edit: He should have spent both of those post-draft years in the QMJHL.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 15 @ 12:17 PM ET
this is the worst username to have ever existed
- Streit2ThePoint


But it's in great remembrance of the man who gave us the best hockey fight in the last decade. Bonus points for anything that involved Darcy Tucker being punched the face.

Feds91Stammer
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Tatar Fan Boy, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 15 @ 12:25 PM ET
In a nutshell: Unless you're scoring 40 goals a year, any player with possession metrics under 50% is useless. Got it.
- jmatchett383

That's what you read? Not the if your claim to being an NHL regular is your PK ability and you suck at that relative to your teammates?
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

May 15 @ 12:42 PM ET
Can't they just sign him to a 2 way deal? Obviously it would be ideal if he didnt have to suit up but having him as a 14th forward playing in WBS would be cool with me.
RuutuRock’emLikeU2#37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.27.2018

May 15 @ 12:52 PM ET
But it's in great remembrance of the man who gave us the best hockey fight in the last decade. Bonus points for anything that involved Darcy Tucker being punched the face.


- jmatchett383



cant be lost that he had a 50% penalty shot/SO percentage as a penguin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbp_5Q1IhXw

enjoy!
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

May 15 @ 2:10 PM ET
Because he is an option to be resigned or let go. I assume in the coming days RW is gonna go over all of the Pens options. Why wouldn't a RFA-to-be be discussed?
- j.boyd919


I agree, I misspoke or mis emphasized. It should be talked about for about 15 minutes. But It shouldn't be important at all is what I mean. RW acts liek its a make or break move adn TK is the reason we lost.The 13th forward at league min is exactly what you looking for though. So why look elsewhere when you already have it in stock and monitarily our situation cannot get any better for that pos.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 15 @ 2:15 PM ET
I agree, I misspoke or mis emphasized. It should be talked about for about 15 minutes. But It shouldn't be important at all is what I mean. RW acts liek its a make or break move adn TK is the reason we lost.The 13th forward at league min is exactly what you looking for though. So why look elsewhere when you already have it in stock and monitarily our situation cannot get any better for that pos.
- joecool2931


Nah, it's just content. I get that Kuhn isn't THAT important... but when most of your top 9/top 6 is already under contract, open roster spots is easily the best way to start conversations on improving the team. Like... Grabner.

Would you rather have Grabner or Kuhnackl? And why? Personally, without looking into it much yet, I THINK I'd rather pay Grabner 1m than Kuhn whatever. Grabner at least MIGHT score, even if it's based off high shooting percentages and empty nets.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 15 @ 2:22 PM ET
Nah, it's just content. I get that Kuhn isn't THAT important... but when most of your top 9/top 6 is already under contract, open roster spots is easily the best way to start conversations on improving the time. Like... Grabner.

Would you rather have Grabner or Kuhnackl? And why?

- j.boyd919


I wouldn't want Grabner playing limited minutes on the 4th line making 3-4x what Kuhn will make.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 15 @ 2:24 PM ET
I wouldn't want Grabner playing limited minutes on the 4th line making 3-4x what Kuhn will make.
- jmatchett383


I'd be curious if Grabner gets more than 1.5-1.75 next season. I don't think he will. But he might?
Feds91Stammer
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Tatar Fan Boy, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 15 @ 2:42 PM ET
I wouldn't want Grabner playing limited minutes on the 4th line making 3-4x what Kuhn will make.
- jmatchett383

If it is a short term deal and it fits under the cap why not?
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

May 15 @ 2:43 PM ET
I'd be curious if Grabner gets more than 1.5-1.75 next season. I don't think he will. But he might?
- j.boyd919


25 goals is 25 goals. Im guessing he gets what ever Rust gets. Not a salary your willing to pay a strictly 4 liner/13th forward.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

May 15 @ 2:44 PM ET
I'd be curious if Grabner gets more than 1.5-1.75 next season. I don't think he will. But he might?
- j.boyd919


If everyone is confident Rust deserves $3M, I would think Grabner would get at least that.
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