Toews is a cap dump at this point

So getting an declining Weber for a stud D wasnt enough, now they want a useless overpriced two way center that lost his offence? either Ek is starved for clicks or Montreal is dumber than i thought.
- Leniwm1

Why can’t it be both?

yotes are the new front runner for tavares

they're a 1C away from being a playoff contender.
- Tumbleweed[/quote

I’m not saying it won’t happen but I like Bobby Orr’s chances of a comeback better

Toews is a cap dump at this point
- mauryballstein

Absolutely

Not saying he's the worst player in the world, but he isn't even close to full value on that cap hit, and personally I wouldn't take it on even if Chicago picked up half

Absolutely

Not saying he's the worst player in the world, but he isn't even close to full value on that cap hit, and personally I wouldn't take it on even if Chicago picked up half
- AllInForFlyers

He is a good player but a good player worth half of what he makes for 4 or 5 years.

10.5 with that term is terrible. Chicago should blow it up now and salvage what they can so they can rebuild quicker dont do what the canucks did and grind all there vets value into the ground.

Toews is a cap dump at this point
- mauryballstein

But is he a bilingual cap dump?

His points may not be much to look at but, like it or not, he was part of that first wave of Soviet's to bolt from the USSR and come to North America to play pro hockey.

His career was culturally-significant and that does count for something. It doesn't hurt that his numbers were "good" and he was a contributor on multiple Stanley Cup winning teams.
- eichiefs9

The 1st was Alexander Mogilny.

Why would montreal trade for toews when o'reilly is a better/cheaper option

Why would montreal trade for toews when o'reilly is a better/cheaper option
- sabrecentralCan

Better option sure but still not the answer, I'd rather they tank

The 1st was Alexander Mogilny.
- MLew65

Larionov, Fetisov, and Mogilny all played in the 89/90 season. There were others too, if I recall. There was no "first" single Russian player.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes the Hawks are going to trade their heart and soul player who is already a lock for the hall of fame. Don't get me wrong, Hawks need to rebuild, but this simply won't happen and you can put an E5 beside that
- rickyd39

I know he has 3 cups, but Toews a "lock" for Hall of Fame?

Do his individual stats even come close?

I know he has 3 cups, but Toews a "lock" for Hall of Fame?

Do his individual stats even come close?
- rrentz

Of course. We're talking post Lidstrom Pierre McGuire stalking stats right? Cause Toews needed a restraining order at one point.

Of course. We're talking post Lidstrom Pierre McGuire stalking stats right? Cause Toews needed a restraining order at one point.
- glove_was_stuck

I know he has 3 cups, but Toews a "lock" for Hall of Fame?

Do his individual stats even come close?
- rrentz

No. He produces at the level of a "good" 1st line center. Those Chicago teams that won were stacked and very well-constructed teams. This is not to take away from the impact Toews had outside of scoring, but he's IMO in the same realm as guys like Stepan. I'm not tying to knock Stepan or Toews with that comment, but just trying to show the mold of player I'm talking about.

I don't know that Toews is a lock, but I think he'll definitely be considered.

- eichiefs9

Better option sure but still not the answer, I'd rather they tank
- obie

Yes. Thats always the better answer but the habs will never tank. The franchise wont accept losing .so If there going after a smart defensive center and package galchenyuck and the 3rd overall, Oreilly is 3 years younger, scores more and is #1 on faceoffs and makes 4M less

Yes. Thats always the better answer but the habs will never tank. The franchise wont accept losing .so If there going after a smart defensive center and package galchenyuck and the 3rd overall, Oreilly is 3 years younger, scores more and is #1 on faceoffs
- sabrecentralCan

Are you suggesting O'Reilly is worth the 3rd overall and Galchenyuk? Cause I wouldn't trade either for him straight up

Yes. Thats always the better answer but the habs will never tank. The franchise wont accept losing .so If there going after a smart defensive center and package galchenyuck and the 3rd overall, Oreilly is 3 years younger, scores more and is #1 on faceoffs and makes 4M less
- sabrecentralCan

3rd overall AND Galchenyuk for o'reilly?

Yes. Thats always the better answer but the habs will never tank. The franchise wont accept losing .so If there going after a smart defensive center and package galchenyuck and the 3rd overall, Oreilly is 3 years younger, scores more and is #1 on faceoffs and makes 4M less
- sabrecentralCan

3rd overall AND Galchenyuk for o'reilly?
- Symba007

Habs should add next year's 1st for good measure

- glove_was_stuck

Are you suggesting O'Reilly is worth the 3rd overall and Galchenyuk? Cause I wouldn't trade either for him straight up
- obie

Isnt this whole board suggesting the 3rd overall and galch for Toews? Im just suggesting if they were to give those pieces up anyway for Toews, they are better off doing it for Oreilly

Isnt this whole board suggesting the 3rd overall and galch for Toews? You dont have to be that smart to know Oreilly is a way way better return
- sabrecentralCan

You don't have to be that smart to figure out both are really dumb ideas

Habs will offer Byron, Mccarron and the 35th pick for O'Reilly...

3rd overall AND Galchenyuk for o'reilly?
- Symba007

good point it should be 2018 & 2019 1st plus galchenyuk for RoR, and the rights to marek zagrapan

You don't have to be that smart to figure out both are really dumb ideas

Habs will offer Byron, Mccarron and the 35th pick for O'Reilly...
- obie

Whats with all the hate on Oreilly? He is in his prime at 27, an established 60 point guy, the best in the league on faceoffs, plays in all situations and probably is at least in the conversation for the best two way center. Hes going to get a better return than spare parts and a 2nd