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bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

May 6 @ 10:37 PM ET
the hawks as presently configured are light years away from an expansion team called the LV Knights...not even close...

MAF...wow the guy was given up for done years ago...and look at this
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

May 6 @ 10:42 PM ET
So he moved on from just licking?
- tvetter



Outstanding
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

May 6 @ 11:21 PM ET
I would warmly welcome Reaves’ skillset on line 4 in Chicago
- EnzoD


I would prefer Tom Wilson; but this reaves isn’t too bad.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

May 7 @ 12:13 AM ET
Bolts - Vegas final - Bolts win in seven.

Stevie Y has built a great and deep team with a well managed cap situation for years to come. No albatross contracts and a solid team game.

Vegas brings a team from the head coach on down that all have something to prove as rejects from their last homes. Proof that a strong team approach and a desire to bring 100% to the game every night can outshine teams with overpaid marquis players who choose to show up only when they want to.

Three cups in the bank is something most of us could never have dreamed of ten years ago - however that is not an excuse for anyone wearing the Indianhead to rest easy.

Our team of on ice leaders can learn a lot from watching these two teams. Effort effort effort every shift, every game. The front office can learn that skill and speed mean little without snarl, size and physical play as an equal part of the formula to succeed in the NHL.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 7 @ 12:46 AM ET
“Insiders” have reported a very active/aggressive summer is in the works for Stan Bowman. Should be interesting to see how the summer unfolds after Winnipeg wins their 1st Cup. They are my pick right now. Please not PIT/NSH
- EnzoD


We know better than to believe that Stan is capable of making a big move of any kind that will actually make the team better.

I’m hoping for Winnipeg too.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

May 7 @ 1:08 AM ET
so far so good with picks: bolts, knights...not so good with pens and preds...i like the jets alot just did not think they had enough to beat the preds...

caps have surprised me, after losing the the 1st two at home they are 7-2...impressive.

pens win G6 but fail in G7...

bolts and jets final are my picks
AusHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Melbourne
Joined: 11.25.2015

May 7 @ 2:48 AM ET
Refs giving this game to Boston.

Miss an obvious interference on Chara that leads the lead goal. Then Chara hooks Johnson down to the ice, and acts like he gets speared.

Anyone not seeing that Bettman wants a tied series?

- powerenforcer



boy this comment did not age well......................
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

May 7 @ 7:48 AM ET
boy this comment did not age well......................
- AusHawk



What do you mean, Boston winning that game tied the series at that point. Exactly what I said.
hocktock
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Over by dere.
Joined: 07.15.2015

May 7 @ 9:27 AM ET
We know better than to believe that Stan is capable of making a big move of any kind that will actually make the team better.

I’m hoping for Winnipeg too.

- DarthKane



Vegas or bust.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

May 7 @ 9:57 AM ET
*NEW* Blog up: http://www.hockeybuzz.com...ks-Whos-Next-Up/253/92758
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

May 7 @ 11:16 AM ET
They may not need to trade Hossa's contract. But if they do not trade it they cannot use the space until after the season starts. And they have the same situation next summer and the summer after that. If they can move it for let' say a 3rd round pick this summer, a 4th round pick next summer and a 5th round pick the following summer I would think you would do it. The Hawks pick up $5.275 mil in cap space that they can actually use during the summer for the next 3 summers, save $3 mil in salary over the next 3 years, and give up 3 mid to late round picks.

The next argument we will hear from posters (like Bingo) is that teams will not trade for the pick because they are already at the floor. They are missing the point. The cap ceiling is what you need to look at. Let's say the cap ceiling is $80 mil. There are plenty of small market low revenue teams that will keep their salary under $75 mil because anything more than that would be economically unfeasible to operate the club. So they take on Hossa's $5.275 cap hit, they only pay $1mil salary per year for the next 3 years and pick up 3 draft picks.

I am not saying it will go down like this but it could.

- -Doh-


I’m sorry Doh but with respect your reading of this is incorrect. No other team above the floor would trade for the Hossa contract to further fill the Cap and certainly not to get to the ceiling. A team, already spending near the ceiling would presumably want that available Cap space for an actual player or actual players. There is absolutely no benefit to that team in doing that - none. There is only a benefit to a team that wishes to save actual money and reach the floor. The issue of assets then - the Hawks are not going to give away assets, of any value, to move the Hossa contract so whether a team has Cap space available or not, the Hawks are not going to give assets of any value. The LTIR system is a bit inconvenient and seems to have been written by squirrels but it is not rocket science for the teams involved with it. These teams simply deal with it.

This is not like the Datsyuk situation where there was no Cap relief possible for Detroit. The Hawks get Cap relief for the entirety of Hossa’s contract under the LTIR system. I am not saying that it is impossible for a trade, as you describe, to occur but the Hawks would give up very little or bury the contract in a bigger trade, as the moving of the Hossa contract would only be to gain convenience.

As an aside, NHL teams pretending that dealing with the Cap is incredibly difficult are full of it - it is the most basic accounting. Capologists - give me a break. I do more difficult balancing with my grocery budget.






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