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shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Apr 19 @ 4:27 PM ET
where's Sam Woo when you need him
- MartysBetter88

lol
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Apr 19 @ 4:28 PM ET
If Nico were to skate over to Hedman and whack him in the balls our of the blue (no pun intended) you'll see how quickly it'll get pointed out by the refs and other Bolts that it's not 'just playoff hockey'. I'll be there will be penalties awarded and some fighting to follow.

But after watching PK Subban get his head repeatedly banged into the ice by Crosby without even a minor penalty being called you realize the star players are given a wide birth. If it was Dalton Prout it would be a multi game suspension.

- Queenie_5_hole


Is this implying PK was lying there passively, going about his business and not holding crosby's stick?

I do agree that star players are given a longer leash
rawwdogg88
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.18.2013

Apr 19 @ 4:29 PM ET
Shero HAS to go out and get Carlson and Kane this off season. This team takes another step towards ELITE respectability with those two additions.
headyhedman77
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 05.19.2017

Apr 19 @ 4:45 PM ET
Shero HAS to go out and get Carlson and Kane this off season. This team takes another step towards ELITE respectability with those two additions.
- rawwdogg88

Thats 12-15 mill in cap and they are gonna want term, that would be one hell of a free agency for yall...
rawwdogg88
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.18.2013

Apr 19 @ 4:54 PM ET
Thats 12-15 mill in cap and they are gonna want term, that would be one hell of a free agency for yall...
- headyhedman77


We will have about 12 mill in space this off season...give or take a mill.
headyhedman77
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 05.19.2017

Apr 19 @ 4:59 PM ET
We will have about 12 mill in space this off season...give or take a mill.
- rawwdogg88

Not impossible by any means but i think that kinda on the low side for those two
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Apr 19 @ 5:24 PM ET
I'm more inclined to give Kucherov the benefit of the doubt because at least it was a hockey move. Maybe he didn't intend to hit his head or injure him but Hedman....that was flat out bs. That's not a hockey play and should have no business happening. The league should suspend EVERYONE that does that. What kinda league is this? How do you even defend hitting someone's in the jewels? Pathetic.
- Devils4ever

Well, Crosby does it and gets away with it. Marchand does it and gets away with it. The culture is tolerating dirty play and that is unfortunate for the entire sport. It cheapens the sport and endangers the players. There should be a zero tolerance for that crap. I agree, Hedman's spear was a cheap shot and he should have been given a major and misconduct at the least. I just hope it was a one-off type of thing and doesn't become normal for him. Like Marchand, Hedman has too much talent to engage in that kind of cheap play.
Devils4ever
New Jersey Devils
Location: East Newark, NJ
Joined: 10.24.2013

Apr 19 @ 5:29 PM ET
Well, Crosby does it and gets away with it. Marchand does it and gets away with it. The culture is tolerating dirty play and that is unfortunate for the entire sport. It cheapens the sport and endangers the players. There should be a zero tolerance for that crap. I agree, Hedman's spear was a cheap shot and he should have been given a major and misconduct at the least. I just hope it was a one-off type of thing and doesn't become normal for him. Like Marchand, Hedman has too much talent to engage in that kind of cheap play.
- GalacticStone



Exactly. It shouldn't matter who did it. If you decide to try and hurt someone like that you should get suspended, even if its playoffs. If you lose a series because you had to sit out for it maybe you'll learn your lesson. That kinda play has no business being in our great sport.
LAkings96
Los Angeles Kings
Location: La Verne, CA
Joined: 12.15.2012

Apr 19 @ 5:38 PM ET
I'm more inclined to give Kucherov the benefit of the doubt because at least it was a hockey move. Maybe he didn't intend to hit his head or injure him but Hedman....that was flat out bs. That's not a hockey play and should have no business happening. The league should suspend EVERYONE that does that. What kinda league is this? How do you even defend hitting someone's in the jewels? Pathetic.
- Devils4ever


You can say the exact same thing about Doughtys hit, yet he got a game and Kucherov didn’t even get a hearing.
Devils4ever
New Jersey Devils
Location: East Newark, NJ
Joined: 10.24.2013

Apr 19 @ 5:53 PM ET
You can say the exact same thing about Doughtys hit, yet he got a game and Kucherov didn’t even get a hearing.
- LAkings96


I agree. The league is inconsistent. Doughty got the same as the guy from the Jets who clearly targeted I think it was Staals head. That should have been way more than 1 game.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Apr 19 @ 5:57 PM ET
You can say the exact same thing about Doughtys hit, yet he got a game and Kucherov didn’t even get a hearing.
- LAkings96

Campbell needs to fired and all of the officials re-trained. NHL officiating is the worst in all of professional sports. It is a joke. The rot starts at the top and runs downward.

GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Apr 19 @ 5:58 PM ET
I agree. The league is inconsistent. Doughty got the same as the guy from the Jets who clearly targeted I think it was Staals head. That should have been way more than 1 game.
- Devils4ever

That hit on Staal was disgusting. Should have been a 5-major, game misconduct, 7+ game suspension, and massive fine.
Devils4ever
New Jersey Devils
Location: East Newark, NJ
Joined: 10.24.2013

Apr 19 @ 6:04 PM ET
That hit on Staal was disgusting. Should have been a 5-major, game misconduct, 7+ game suspension, and massive fine.
- GalacticStone



Yupp. I don't understand what the league is doing. Whoever is reviewing these needs to be fired.
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Apr 19 @ 8:59 PM ET


Phone conference decided league maximum $5000.00 fine per NHLPA agreement.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Apr 20 @ 8:38 AM ET
Is this implying PK was lying there passively, going about his business and not holding crosby's stick?

I do agree that star players are given a longer leash

- DeflatedPucks


Sorry. I forgot the ‘it’s ok to try to turn someone’s brains to tapioca if they touch your stick rule’. Even if it’s after you tackle them.
RagingMike
New Jersey Devils
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 20 @ 10:12 AM ET
we need the D men to stop shooting the puck into the shin pads. Ive never seen it as much as this years Devils. Andy Green is the an automatic every time he shoots from the blue line
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Apr 20 @ 12:43 PM ET
we need the D men to stop shooting the puck into the shin pads. Ive never seen it as much as this years Devils. Andy Green is the an automatic every time he shoots from the blue line
- RagingMike



At the last game I noticed a lot of hesitancy in the shooters including guys at the point. They were not one-timing it but seemed to wait before pulling the trigger which resulted in a lot of blocked shots. Bad signs....
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Apr 20 @ 1:07 PM ET
With nothing to lose, throw Anderson in there.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 20 @ 1:11 PM ET
Good to see hedman take responsibility for spearing Nico

Hedman said that play isn't a part of the game and said he apologized to Nico after game 1 and said he deserved being boo'd and understands why
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Apr 20 @ 1:14 PM ET
We gave up a lot for Mueller . He is not going to the minors.
Severson also signed to a big contract.
We also have Vatanen , Butcher , Greene ,and Moore .

that leaves one D spot . Maybe 2.

Need some more muscle to go with the speed. started with Speed. now add size and muscle.

- thechezman


Just because we gave up a 2nd rd pick for mueller does not entitle him a spot on the roster. I like Green, but he has certainly lost a step over the years, great hockey iq, but ideally would be bumped to the #5 spot. Butcher and Vats are clear top 4 D, and Severson really isnt making "Big" money. His 4M is pretty typical of many #4-5 D men in the league these days. At 23, I still dont think it is a bad deal for the Devs. Moore is still a wildcard to me. But Lovejoy has one more year and Greener has two more, So I would love to see the Devs target the best UFA D's, and personally think Carlson would lift this team to another level, with Enstrom being the usual stellar defender who is allergic to taking shots. Would be a welcome addition.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Apr 20 @ 1:18 PM ET
Just because we gave up a 2nd rd pick for mueller does not entitle him a spot on the roster. I like Green, but he has certainly lost a step over the years, great hockey iq, but ideally would be bumped to the #5 spot. Butcher and Vats are clear top 4 D, and Severson really isnt making "Big" money. His 4M is pretty typical of many #4-5 D men in the league these days. At 23, I still dont think it is a bad deal for the Devs. Moore is still a wildcard to me. But Lovejoy has one more year and Greener has two more, So I would love to see the Devs target the best UFA D's, and personally think Carlson would lift this team to another level, with Enstrom being the usual stellar defender who is allergic to taking shots. Would be a welcome addition.
- bikeguy99


I agree. Also, throwing assets for Doughty isnt a bad thing. The dude is never injured, plays every style of D.

He'll command 25+ a game so we can lose Butcher in the deal + 1st and Mcleod.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Apr 20 @ 1:22 PM ET
Thats 12-15 mill in cap and they are gonna want term, that would be one hell of a free agency for yall...
- headyhedman77


We will have the cap space with Clowe, stafford, hayes, and Lack off the payroll (7.725M combined) , and then the cap is supposedly going up 4-7M this season. Also, Green and Lovejoy will not be resigned and in two years time free up 7.67M So realistically we spend 12-15M this season without sweating and still likely have money to look at extensions to our stars that will be approaching extensions. That, or we take a bad contract for some nice draft picks. Either way, lets spend.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Apr 20 @ 1:24 PM ET
I agree. Also, throwing assets for Doughty isnt a bad thing. The dude is never injured, plays every style of D.

He'll command 25+ a game so we can lose Butcher in the deal + 1st and Mcleod.

- Leniwm1


I actually think that would be a solid deal for both teams. After that playoff performance, LA is probably assessing the direction their "older" team is heading and that would bring young, affordable talent. I am sure Carter and Quick would complete a youth transition for the Kings. And I would love to have Doughty, guy is an animal!!!!
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Apr 20 @ 1:33 PM ET
I actually think that would be a solid deal for both teams. After that playoff performance, LA is probably assessing the direction their "older" team is heading and that would bring young, affordable talent. I am sure Carter and Quick would complete a youth transition for the Kings. And I would love to have Doughty, guy is an animal!!!!
- bikeguy99


Obv I'd offer Sev first...
RileyB77
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Canada
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 20 @ 2:09 PM ET
hey. i have not read any of the comments so you all might have seen this already, not sure.


Bryan Burns

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Victor Hedman said he texted Nico Hischier to apologize after Game 3 for spear to a sensitive area, said he deserved to be booed in NJ. “That was an immature play on my part.” #Bolts #TBLvsNJD


just throwing it out there. cool that hedman even has nico's number. maybe he asked boyle for it
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