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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 19 @ 1:40 PM ET
But if a team say NE gives up both firsts this year, and a first next year, they move in and get the guy.
- ImThatGuy



They need to get to 2 or 4.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Apr 19 @ 1:41 PM ET
Not a chance they would pay more than what it would cost to move to 2

You're forgetting the one simple thing

Besides Miami who is at pick 11 and doesn't have another 1st this year

Buffalo holds the most value

They say take 12 and 22 and be done with it or there's no deal to be made.

- Stripes77



12 and 22 isn't enough for 2.
Stripes77
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Apr 19 @ 1:42 PM ET
But if a team say NE gives up both firsts this year, and a first next year, they move in and get the guy.
- ImThatGuy


So three late first rounders over picks 12 and 22?

Pick 12 and 22 have a value of 1200+870 has a 2070 point value

Picks 23 and 31 plus say 28 next year have a value of 760+600+660 has a 2020 point value

Again Buffalo still holds a higher value
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 19 @ 1:42 PM ET
12 and 22 isn't enough for 2.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo



This isn't a discussion to move to 2
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
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Apr 19 @ 1:43 PM ET
This isn't a discussion to move to 2
- Stripes77



Oh gotcha. Came in late
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 19 @ 1:43 PM ET
I bet you Cleveland would love another 2019 1st round pick from some of these bottom feeder teams. They must love sitting at 1 and 4 this year. Phone is probably ringing off the hook.

Starting a rookie qb with no other draft picks to protect him, is a recipe for disaster

- Boss34



Which is why if I am Buffalo next years 1st is off limits
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 19 @ 1:44 PM ET
Oh gotcha. Came in late
- CoHo_to_B-Lo



I figured
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 19 @ 1:44 PM ET
So three late first rounders over picks 12 and 22?

Pick 12 and 22 have a value of 1200+870 has a 2070 point value

Picks 23 and 31 plus say 28 next year have a value of 760+600+660 has a 2020 point value

Again Buffalo still holds a higher value

- Stripes77


Draft chart be dammed. if buffalo comes in and offers only 12 and 22 where New England offers both 1's and next years 1. 100 times out of 100, that team takes NE's offer.
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.23.2013

Apr 19 @ 1:45 PM ET
I think they will now have a long term and short term vision

IMO given these qbs


I would stand pat, build the roster depth with current picks

if the qb play is bad, this season, and I don't think it would be any worse then tyrod, get a qb in 2019 when all the other teams blew their wad on these bums

- homiedclown


I had the same thought the other night... maybe they think A.J. can be the man... grab a Linebacker, Wide reciever, Offensive Lineman or Cornerback/Safety with the first 3 or 4 picks, maybe they grab a decent QB with the 4th or 5th pick ?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 19 @ 1:45 PM ET
please no more well this guy might be good, but he is a massive project, lets hope we get lucky, which in that case getting lucky is getting Andy Dalton.
- ImThatGuy



Well thats what you are doing after the main 4 guys are gone.

The next 4 are hoping you get lucky.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 19 @ 1:47 PM ET
So three late first rounders over picks 12 and 22?

Pick 12 and 22 have a value of 1200+870 has a 2070 point value

Picks 23 and 31 plus say 28 next year have a value of 760+600+660 has a 2020 point value

Again Buffalo still holds a higher value

- Stripes77



I don't think NE is done moving up and IMO if they can get into the top 5/6 it's for Chubb. Just a hunch.
ImThatGuy
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Apr 19 @ 1:47 PM ET
I had the same thought the other night... maybe they think A.J. can be the man... grab a Linebacker, Wide reciever, Offensive Lineman or Cornerback/Safety with the first 3 or 4 picks, maybe they grab a decent QB with the 4th or 5th pick ?
- 22sabresQ


Thats a mistake, IMO. McCarron had great weapons with Cincy, and the offense plummeted with him at the helm when he took over for an injured Dalton. He only averaged 175 yards a game.

Now if they want to start him while the QB they drafted in the top 5 gets ready, sure I am all for that.
Stripes77
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Apr 19 @ 1:49 PM ET
Draft chart be dammed. if buffalo comes in and offers only 12 and 22 where New England offers both 1's and next years 1. 100 times out of 100, that team takes NE's offer.
- ImThatGuy


Something NFL GM's hold near and dear

Sure why not...
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 19 @ 1:49 PM ET
I don't think NE is done moving up and IMO if they can get into the top 5/6 it's for Chubb. Just a hunch.
- dadeadhead


One last run at the Super Bowl you think?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
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Apr 19 @ 1:50 PM ET
Draft chart be dammed. if buffalo comes in and offers only 12 and 22 where New England offers both 1's and next years 1. 100 times out of 100, that team takes NE's offer.
- ImThatGuy



No one in the top 5-7 are interested in dropping out of the top 10-15. So in this case the Bills picks are more valuable than 2 picks in the last 3rd of the 1st and 28-32nd pick in the 1st next year.

NE has to turn 31 into a top 15 pick to have a shot. They have some work to do.
Stripes77
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Apr 19 @ 1:51 PM ET
I had the same thought the other night... maybe they think A.J. can be the man... grab a Linebacker, Wide reciever, Offensive Lineman or Cornerback/Safety with the first 3 or 4 picks, maybe they grab a decent QB with the 4th or 5th pick ?
- 22sabresQ



If they don't take a QB until the 4th or 5th round I think that's a huge failure.

I think they get a guy in the 1st round.

Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they move into the late 1st for a QB still on the board (like Rudolph)
Stripes77
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Apr 19 @ 1:51 PM ET
No one in the top 5-7 are interested in dropping out of the top 10-15. So in this case the Bills picks are more valuable than 2 picks in the last 3rd of the 1st and 28-32nd pick in the 1st next year.

NE has to turn 31 into a top 15 pick to have a shot. They have some work to do.

- dadeadhead



Thank you
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 19 @ 1:52 PM ET
Something NFL GM's hold near and dear

Sure why not...

- Stripes77



I think Ole Bill is enamored with Chubb.

If 3 Qb's go in the top 3 you know CLE is going Barkley at 4.

IMO they should be going Chubb.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 19 @ 1:56 PM ET
I think Ole Bill is enamored with Chubb.

If 3 Qb's go in the top 3 you know CLE is going Barkley at 4.

IMO they should be going Chubb.

- dadeadhead

it would be funny if we moved up, and drafted Chubb
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 19 @ 1:56 PM ET
I think Ole Bill is enamored with Chubb.

If 3 Qb's go in the top 3 you know CLE is going Barkley at 4.

IMO they should be going Chubb.

- dadeadhead


Would be interesting

I think Ole Bill hangs it up soon after Brady, I think he is annoyed with having to trade Jimmy G who was clearly the next guy
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 19 @ 1:56 PM ET
it would be funny if we moved up, and drafted Chubb
- homiedclown



Funny? Funny how?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
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Apr 19 @ 1:58 PM ET
Would be interesting

I think Ole Bill hangs it up soon after Brady, I think he is annoyed with having to trade Jimmy G who was clearly the next guy

- Stripes77



If Chubb goes 4 I think it makes #5 interesting with Denver just releasing Anderson.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 19 @ 1:58 PM ET
Funny? Funny how?
- Stripes77



What is it than makes you funny?
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 19 @ 1:58 PM ET

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Should be interesting when the Bills host the Patriots at 10/29 at 8:15pm


Monday night football in Buffalo???

Dear god
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 19 @ 1:58 PM ET
What is it than makes you funny?
- dadeadhead



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