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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 19 @ 11:58 AM ET
yeah, it is what it is. He's severely overpaid at this point, but he can still score a few.

Interesting stat, Pouliot was our 3rd best EV goal scorer per 60 behind Kane and Eichel. Pominville was 5th behind Rodrigues

- sbroads24


So the Sabres will be throwing a poop load of $ for pouliot.

3rd at even strength may cause a bidding war
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 19 @ 11:58 AM ET
Moving from 12 to at least 10 will cost more then a 3rd.
You make it seem pretty easy

- Boss34


It is easy (if other team is willing). May cost more, just threw out a number. Maybe it's a 2nd and 4th. Maybe 2 3rds. Maybe a 2nd and a 6th. Who knows. Go look at the chart.

They need 100 points to move from 12 to 10. A 3rd, according to the JJ chart, is overpayment.

So yes. It IS that easy.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 19 @ 12:00 PM ET
So the Sabres will be throwing a poop load of $ for pouliot.

3rd at even strength may cause a bidding war

- Boss34



Idk if there will be any money left after the contract they have to give Johnson to convince him to come back.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
Idk if there will be any money left after the contract they have to give Johnson to convince him to come back.
- jcragcrumple


He deserves 10 mil a year
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
I don't buy that. Matter of opinion I suppose. Botts seems above that. He was legitimately angry during the season. The easy route is internal competition. But that doesn't change the culture of this team. There will be big things. Book it.
- TheSabresTaco


Jbotts is a great actor.
He wants a top 4 pick more then anyone on this board.
Who wouldn't?
Tpegs was all for placing at the bottom


The formula hasn't changed.
High end talent wins nhl championships.
High end talent is easier to find picking early
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 19 @ 12:04 PM ET
Jbotts is a great actor.
He wants a top 4 pick more then anyone on this board.
Who wouldn't?
Tpegs was all for placing at the bottom


The formula hasn't changed.
High end talent wins nhl championships.
High end talent is easier to find picking early

- Boss34


Jesus Christ to this entire post.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 19 @ 12:04 PM ET
stuff happens


stuff happens all the time
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 19 @ 12:05 PM ET
It is easy (if other team is willing). May cost more, just threw out a number. Maybe it's a 2nd and 4th. Maybe 2 3rds. Maybe a 2nd and a 6th. Who knows. Go look at the chart.

They need 100 points to move from 12 to 10. A 3rd, according to the JJ chart, is overpayment.

So yes. It IS that easy.

- TheSabresTaco


So the jets give up (3) 2nds to move up 3 spots, but Beane is going to outsmart everyone a get to 10 or higher with a 3rd?

The chart has been thrown out the window with the jets trade ransom.

Not that EASY, or they would be at 10 right now
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Apr 19 @ 12:05 PM ET
It is easy (if other team is willing). May cost more, just threw out a number. Maybe it's a 2nd and 4th. Maybe 2 3rds. Maybe a 2nd and a 6th. Who knows. Go look at the chart.

They need 100 points to move from 12 to 10. A 3rd, according to the JJ chart, is overpayment.

So yes. It IS that easy.

- TheSabresTaco



That chart is over 20 years old. Different game, draft picks are more valuable. Trading to move up for QB’s even more costly.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 19 @ 12:05 PM ET
Idk if there will be any money left after the contract they have to give Johnson to convince him to come back.
- jcragcrumple

😁
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 19 @ 12:06 PM ET
stuff happens


stuff happens all the time

- homiedclown


nuh uh.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 19 @ 12:06 PM ET
So the jets give up (3) 2nds to move up 3 spots, but Beane is going to outsmart everyone a get to 10 or higher with a 3rd?

The chart has been thrown out the window with the jets trade ransom.

Not that EASY, or they would be at 10 right now

- Boss34


Apples to oranges, brotha. 10 is not 2.

You sure? You're SURE about that?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 19 @ 12:07 PM ET
Jesus Christ to this entire post.
- TheSabresTaco


????
No need to take it there , not sure where you took it?

Opinions differ
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 19 @ 12:07 PM ET
????
No need to take it there , not sure where you took it?

Opinions differ

- Boss34


The tin hat theories that the post sank into were enormous.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 19 @ 12:08 PM ET
Apples to oranges, brotha. 10 is not 2.

You sure? You're SURE about that?

- TheSabresTaco


Mother Mary to this entire post.

Is that how you agree or disagree?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 19 @ 12:08 PM ET
That chart is over 20 years old. Different game, draft picks are more valuable. Trading to move up for QB’s even more costly.
- Fattony1187


Perhaps. So maybe a 3rd. Maybe a 2nd. Maybe a 2nd and 4th. Bills have plenty of Murrency.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 19 @ 12:09 PM ET
Mother Mary to this entire post.

Is that how you agree or disagree?

- Boss34


2 isn't 3 either
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 19 @ 12:09 PM ET
Mother Mary to this entire post.

Is that how you agree or disagree?

- Boss34


That's how I react to wild accusations of purposely failing and losing the org millions.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 19 @ 12:10 PM ET
Moving from 12 to at least 10 will cost more then a 3rd.
You make it seem pretty easy

- Boss34


It really wont though

If you're moving up 2 spots from 12 to 10 a 3rd round will get it done

It's not like you're moving from 6 to 3 (which the Jets extremely overpaid) not to mention there have been GM's come out and say just because the Jets paid that price doesn't mean that sets the market.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 19 @ 12:10 PM ET
Perhaps. So maybe a 3rd. Maybe a 2nd. Maybe a 2nd and 4th. Bills have plenty of Murrency.
- TheSabresTaco


Let's just find a gm who's "willing to do it"

Is that a tin cup theory?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 19 @ 12:13 PM ET
That's how I react to wild accusations of purposely failing and losing the org millions.
- TheSabresTaco



The Sabres have never stooped to tanking ?

Tpegs I'm sure feels he was right with the mceichel plan.
He wants to win, hes not worried about a small ticket revenue drop.

They still had 16,000 sth'ers
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 19 @ 12:14 PM ET
Svech or z -Eichel-( FA or trade )
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 19 @ 12:15 PM ET
It really wont though

If you're moving up 2 spots from 12 to 10 a 3rd round will get it done

It's not like you're moving from 6 to 3 (which the Jets extremely overpaid) not to mention there have been GM's come out and say just because the Jets paid that price doesn't mean that sets the market.

- Stripes77



We do have the first pick in the 3rd, from Cleveland.

Thing is, if a qb is there that shouldn't be, there will be an open competition for that spot.

Ie: see fattonys post on QB value and aged value chart
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 19 @ 12:19 PM ET
stuff happens


stuff happens all the time

- homiedclown



Still waiting on the status of Casey Nelson.......
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 19 @ 12:19 PM ET
We do have the first pick in the 3rd, from Cleveland.

Thing is, if a qb is there that shouldn't be, there will be an open competition for that spot.

Ie: see fattonys post on QB value and aged value chart

- Boss34



Maybe, probably

But again those other teams will be coming from spots higher than 12

New England to move from 31 to 10 is a lot different from Buffalo to move from 12 to 10

Buffalo holds the most value because of where their pick is.

Buffalo and Miami are the two teams that have the most value in that spot to get to pick 10.

I doubt Miami would give up more than a 3rd to move 1 spot.

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