I agree. LVK didn't have to worry about inheriting awful contracts. But you have to admit, it is remarkable the team they put together and the systems they've implemented. That team is a legit contender to win the Cup this year. It's nothing short of astonishing.
- PLindbergh31

How Florida let them basically have both Reilly smith and marchasseult I’ll never understand

It's not really an apples to apples, tho. Vegas was able to select some established NHL talent..Hextall has never been able to select NHL players from other teams.
- VladDrag

Established NHL talent yes. But in a lot of cases they were spare parts. Teams left these players unprotected. In some instances (Neal and MAF) it was due to cap reasons, but majority where players that teams thought they could live without.
I mean William Karlsson led the NHL at +49. On an expansion team. That's sick.

Not backreading and couldn't get myself to come in after sitting through that disaster yesterday.

Need a lineup shakeup here for game 4

G-Coots-TK
Raffl-Patrick-Jake
Weal-Laughton-Simmer
Lehtera-Fillpula-Read

Provorov-Gudas
Hagg-Ghost
AMac-Sanheim

Neuvirth (if healthy else Mrazek)
Elliot (Mrazek)

Also Hakstol has to have a better pulse of the game.

I agree. LVK didn't have to worry about inheriting awful contracts. But you have to admit, it is remarkable the team they put together and the systems they've implemented. That team is a legit contender to win the Cup this year. It's nothing short of astonishing.
- PLindbergh31

Absolutely, they've done an amazing job.

Not backreading and couldn't get myself to come in after sitting through that disaster yesterday.

Need a lineup shakeup here for game 4

G-Coots-TK
Raffl-Patrick-Jake
Weal-Laughton-Simmer
Lehtera-Fillpula-Read

Provorov-Gudas
Hagg-Ghost
AMac-Sanheim

Neuvirth (if healthy else Mrazek)
Elliot (Mrazek)

Also Hakstol has to have a better pulse of the game.
- dragonoffrost

I'd sit Lehtera over Lindblom, I want the kid to get the experience, but other than that, it works for me!

Any player off of the Phantoms could have looked good in that game against the Rags. The Rags played that game with less passion than you usually see in the preseason.
- BiggE

Couldn't agree more, but that seems to be part of Hak's mentality. He continues to roll with the status quo if they win a game with that lineup and essentially refuses to change things

I'd sit Lehtera over Lindblom, I want the kid to get the experience, but other than that, it works for me!
- BiggE

I hate to say it but who PK's if you remove Lehtera. I want 3 pairs not 2...

Established NHL talent yes. But in a lot of cases they were spare parts. Teams left these players unprotected. In some instances (Neal and MAF) it was due to cap reasons, but majority where players that teams thought they could live without.
I mean William Karlsson led the NHL at +49. On an expansion team. That's sick.
- PLindbergh31

I think that shows that a lot of mentalities of GMs in the NHL are out dated. I think the NHL has been trending younger, faster, more skillful players and some of the NHL has been slow to adapt to that. I think Vegas knew exactly what look for in their selection process. One of the reasons I don't understand the love for guys like Filp and Lehtera.

Karlsson fits that mold of player, but it's still crazy that he's 78 points.

Everything still terrible today or nah?

I'd sit Lehtera over Lindblom, I want the kid to get the experience, but other than that, it works for me!
- BiggE

You guys mean lindbum right?

I think that shows that a lot of mentalities of GMs in the NHL are out dated. I think the NHL has been trending younger, faster, more skillful players and some of the NHL has been slow to adapt to that. I think Vegas knew exactly what look for in their selection process. One of the reasons I don't understand the love for guys like Filp and Lehtera.

Karlsson fits that mold of player, but it's still crazy that he's 78 points.
- VladDrag

Shooting 23% too haha. I like him a lot, but he has had everything go his way this year.

Not backreading and couldn't get myself to come in after sitting through that disaster yesterday.
- dragonoffrost

Same

The series rests on game 4.
Elliott has to be better. The first and fourth goals were atrocious.
The team in front of him has to be better.
They need to channel their game two selves or it's over.

Not backreading and couldn't get myself to come in after sitting through that disaster yesterday.

Need a lineup shakeup here for game 4

G-Coots-TK
Raffl-Patrick-Jake
Weal-Laughton-Simmer
Lehtera-Fillpula-Read

Provorov-Gudas
Hagg-Ghost
AMac-Sanheim

Neuvirth (if healthy else Mrazek)
Elliot (Mrazek)

Also Hakstol has to have a better pulse of the game.
- dragonoffrost

I think about doing this:

28-14-93
54-19-11
12-21-17
24-51-40

I know it stacks the first line, but honestly, we're going to live and die by the way G, Jake and Couts go. My thought is go all out.

The only thing I would change is Konecny on the top line and either Weal or Raffl on the third

Shooting 23% too haha. I like him a lot, but he has had everything go his way this year.
- YuenglingJagr

Exactly. He's got skill, but I think this year will be an outlier for him. I think he's more along the lines of a 50-60 point guy in my opinion.

I hate to say it but who PK's if you remove Lehtera. I want 3 pairs not 2...
- dragonoffrost

Coots/Read
Filppula/Konecny
Laughton/Raffl

Time to shake the pk up too. Konecny is quick and will pressure the hell out of the point, plus, he's a threat to score shorthanded if he picks off a point to point pass. If one of the above is in the box, I'd next go to Patrick. Keeping Lehtera in the lineup to be a mediocre PKer is a waste of a roster spot.

Everything still terrible today or nah?
- johndewar

It's just sunshine and kittens around here as always.

Same

The series rests on game 4.
Elliott has to be better. The first and fourth goals were atrocious.
The team in front of him has to be better.
They need to channel their game two selves or it's over.
- Scoob

They lose game 4 then it's over, IMHO, especially the way they have been playing. I mean it shouldn't be a shock to everyone. These first 3 games are a recap of their entire season. Play poorly, play well, play poorly, play well, etc.

Just a curious thought on the PP. I have noticed that when Jake has the puck on the half wall it is always a soft pass into the middle that is easily broken up. I assume he is looking for a deflection however with all the bodies in front it is getting broken up every time. He needs to shoot the puck with a purpose sometimes just like Malkin did yesterday because he is being so easy to read right now and it is not working. I know some negatives will come out to say he does not have a good shot but I have seen him on more than a few occasions score from that spot before.

Coots/Read
Filppula/Konecny
Laughton/Raffl

Time to shake the pk up too. Konecny is quick and will pressure the hell out of the point, plus, he's a threat to score shorthanded if he picks off a point to point pass. If one of the above is in the box, I'd next go to Patrick. Keeping Lehtera in the lineup to be a mediocre PKer is a waste of a roster spot.
- BiggE

I'm fine with either Lindblom or Lehtera being the guy out if Hakstol is willing to to use TK on the PK which I doubt he will.

Yes even the PK can use a shakeup if they can't keep the sloppiness contained.

To begin with I’m not trolling but if you think I am so be it. It has to suck to lose a game when your team clearly outplayed the pens and then see that Columbus down 3-1 comes back to win a game in ot after bobrosky faces 58 shots it’s been the flyers problem for a long time but I really hope for your guys sanity that carter hart is for real!

I know that there are many out there trying to put this on Elliot.

Well, that doesn't hold up. The Flyers, if the forwards were a good as they seem to think they are, would have scored at least 2 if not 3 in the first period. They didn't.

Was Murray good, he wasn't bad. Did the Flyers forwards shoot pucks into his legs and double clutch...yes. Did his defense do their jobs when needed and keep the Flyers away from rebounds? Yes.

Elliot made saves that he needed the defense to do their jobs...they didn't. When Crosby and Malkin get the openings that they got...they score. Period. That is what all world players do.

In order to beat the Penguins you have to stay out of the penalty box. Score on your PP and take advantage of every chance you get.

To begin with I’m not trolling but if you think I am so be it. It has to suck to lose a game when your team clearly outplayed the pens and then see that Columbus down 3-1 comes back to win a game in ot after bobrosky faces 58 shots it’s been the flyers problem for a long time but I really hope for your guys sanity that carter hart is for real!
- Bobd62

The only thing worse than trading a good goalie away is keeping him and wasting his entire career

Hart looks like a great prospect. I don't think people quite understand how much pressure is going to be on this kid. He's going to be billed as the "savior" for a team that plays in a passionate hockey city, with a long Cup drought.

Hart looks like a great prospect. I don't think people quite understand how much pressure is going to be on this kid. He's going to be billed at the "savior" for a team that plays in a passionate hockey city, with a long Cup drought.
- PLindbergh31

Allentown isn't that passionate of a hockey city