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Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Apr 4 @ 5:28 PM ET
I understand that you think your opinions are objective...

That's all.

- archromat

another post that is just blank text. par for the course.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 4 @ 5:48 PM ET
Draft ?

If season ended today Devils get 17th I think. Joe Veleno keeps dropping, not sure why, he's very talented. Do we pick him up if available or trade up a bit to snag him?

- Leniwm1



Rasmus Sandin.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Apr 4 @ 5:50 PM ET
Except no one can possibly assert it's because it's "minus Hall", because the Taylor Hall that was traded away literally doesn't exist anymore. He was transformed in this offseason from a 65 point player to a 90 point player.

In Edmonton, he's still a 65 point player and they're still tanking every season for draft picks. That was the train the team was on, and there was no getting off those tracks.

- archromat


No but you can assert that its because Chia doesn't know how to trade, and the Hall trade is perhaps the worst one.
Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Apr 4 @ 5:53 PM ET
Rasmus Sandin.
- smellmyfinger


the real Rasmus
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 4 @ 5:56 PM ET
Except no one can possibly assert it's because it's "minus Hall", because the Taylor Hall that was traded away literally doesn't exist anymore. He was transformed in this offseason from a 65 point player to a 90 point player.

In Edmonton, he's still a 65 point player and they're still tanking every season for draft picks. That was the train the team was on, and there was no getting off those tracks.

- archromat



Here's the thing, we got the better value because we got the better player. When Chia traded Hall he had just drafted Puljujarvi and still had Eberle and he filled a huge need. You end the defense of Chia once he used his cap space to give Lucic way too much money for way too long a few days later, then traded Eberle and gave Russell a ridiculous contract. He took a bad situation, plugged a hole, then compounded the problems.

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 4 @ 6:26 PM ET
Here's the thing, we got the better value because we got the better player. When Chia traded Hall he had just drafted Puljujarvi and still had Eberle and he filled a huge need. You end the defense of Chia once he used his cap space to give Lucic way too much money for way too long a few days later, then traded Eberle and gave Russell a ridiculous contract. He took a bad situation, plugged a hole, then compounded the problems.
- smellmyfinger

Didn't know you was such a brainiac. Not bad. Surprised - yes. But not bad.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 4 @ 6:49 PM ET
Didn't know you was such a brainiac. Not bad. Surprised - yes. But not bad.
- 21peter



21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 4 @ 6:51 PM ET

- smellmyfinger

not exactly, but close
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 4 @ 10:21 PM ET
I understand that you think your opinions are objective...

That's all.

- archromat


nice one
SteveJ123
New Jersey Devils
Location: Tedenby over Carlson every single time - David Conte, NJ
Joined: 08.22.2014

Apr 5 @ 12:22 AM ET
On the eve of a potential playoff berth, a lot of hostility in the air!
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Apr 5 @ 8:18 AM ET
No but you can assert that its because Chia doesn't know how to trade, and the Hall trade is perhaps the worst one.
- rmdevil313


They traded away a 1st and 2nd for a player they don't have anymore in Reinhart. They knew the first was going to be Barzal, who was a top ten pick they could get at 16 because Boston botched their draft.

The Hall for Larsson was the worst one?

Yep...

At least they still have Larsson and he's on a good contract. He's not as much of an asset as Hall is, but he's still a core asset they can use to build around. You can add top 6 AHLers to play with McDavid, assemble a decent 2nd line through free agency, acquire a new goaltender or maybe graduate somebody to help insure Talbot... Edmonton was bad this year but they're not in dire straits.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Apr 5 @ 8:40 AM ET
On the eve of a potential playoff berth, a lot of hostility in the air!
- SteveJ123


It probably wasn't the wisest thing to defend a trade, especially given that I'm not sitting on a great reputation on this site, but I like to afford the more neutral readers a bit more perspective. The other readers are still hostile because I suggested, six years ago, that Tallinder had negative value.

Ps, I was wrong; he had "no value". He was traded away in a salary dump.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Apr 5 @ 9:02 AM ET
Tallinder



I liked Volchy. At least he played with an edge.
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