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boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Mar 25 @ 10:02 AM ET
My namesake team moved to Dallas when the Blues came into the league.

Was the Cubs farm team in Ft. Worth?

- StLBravesFan



The Hawks minor league team was in Dallas and the Detroit's was in neighboring Ft. Worth. There is a friendly rivalry between the residents of those two cities. Dallas thinking Ft. Worth is a bunch of hicks, and Ft. Worth thinking Dallas is a bunch of snobs.

Had reasons to visit down there many years ago and took in a Dallas-Ft. Worth game. The rivalry of course extended to the ice. Teams didn't like each other either. Old time hockey, fights all the time.
hawks2010
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Madison, WI
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 25 @ 10:13 AM ET
Hey Rainman hope you're well sir...some interesting posts as I've caught up with the blog over the past few days here...

some really solid points here regarding Stan Bowman AKA the team cancer...we've seen Bowman's idiocy over the last several seasons - Leddy in 14, the Sharp fiasco in 15 and the subsequent bad moves that were forced because of that deal. Handing Danault to the Habs along with this year's 2nd round pick was just another bad decision in a string of them. Instead of looking forward he locked in aging core, which has repeatedly killed the Hawks chances to add depth and forcing Stan to move key depth pieces and look for miracles (see Tomas Jurco) among others...

But ole Stan really put his stamp on the team this season...as you point out both blew up in Bowman's face.

Trading both Panarin (who as you point out is scoring circles around 20) and of course the boneheaded move for Murphy really were some of his best (read worst) moves yet. That coupled with not having a qualified NHL backup (despite the fact that his starter had missed significant time the past two seasons) and we can see where this team lies. Meanwhile that defense that Stan has assembled wreaks and good news is they're all back for next year. This is probably not the time to point out Bowman's drafting record for defensemen and goalies has been abysmal during his tenure.

Yes retooling on the fly was what was needed, but Bowman blew through that stop sign quite a while ago. And what happens if Crawford can't go? You point out concussions to both 19 and 50. Hard choices will have to be made moving forward but I'd love it if we had anyone but a Bowman making those decisions. Sadly I don't think that's going to happen.

- DK002

And don’t overlook the fact that they took Jokiharju over future STUD scorer, Tolvanen, when Jokiharju was rated as a mid-2nd round prospect. That one is going to hurt for years, especially since we’ll be seeing him in Nashville every year. If it’s me, Bowman goes, and Q stays (unless Trotz is available). Problem is, if Bowman goes I believe Norm MacIver would be promoted rather than someone with a fresh perspective from outside the organization.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
Wow the Trib is a joke...two major sports teams without beat reporters...glad I cancelled my subscription.

http://www.robertfeder.co...-sox-blackhawks-coverage/

more to it...journalists get laid off and the execs get bonuses. Not surprised.

http://www.robertfeder.co...ne-cuts-staff/#more-17306

- DK002

The beginning (more like another step) of the end of general interest newspapers in the city.

Unless the Tribune is looking to make another offer for the Sun-Times.

Even if they want to go all-digital - they still need people to cover the stories.

Well, we still have Powers and others at the Athletic to cover the Hawks - and Cubs, Sox, Bulls - but what about the minor sports that newspapers used to cover?
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Mar 25 @ 10:34 AM ET
If the Hawks get the 6-10th pick, what would it take to trade up to the 3-4? Would both their #1's be enough? How about their late #1 and Saad--too much?
- RaleighHawk


teams trading down in the NHL draft is rare...not going to give up a guy who may be ready to play for later 1st round or 2nd round picks...

that nashville pick is going to be around 28-31 barring a first round exit (not likely)
it would take more than those 2 picks for a top 3 pick to bite...
StLBravesFan
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 25 @ 10:36 AM ET
The Hawks minor league team was in Dallas and the Detroit's was in neighboring Ft. Worth. There is a friendly rivalry between the residents of those two cities. Dallas thinking Ft. Worth is a bunch of hicks, and Ft. Worth thinking Dallas is a bunch of snobs.

Had reasons to visit down there many years ago and took in a Dallas-Ft. Worth game. The rivalry of course extended to the ice. Teams didn't like each other either. Old time hockey, fights all the time.

- boilermaker100

My daughter lived in Dallas for a while - besides visiting her and the family, the only interesting thing about Dallas was Dealey Plaza and the Sixth Floor Museum.

And the Stars-Hawks game we saw.

But - that’s just my opinion.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Mar 25 @ 10:41 AM ET
Well if it means anything, I just found a site called Tankathon, that has a draft simulator, the first time I hit the button, the Hawks won the lottery and drafted Dahlin.

So we got that going for us

- vabeachbear

They did that on the NHL network on satelite radio last week and that happened there too!
hawks2010
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Madison, WI
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 25 @ 10:53 AM ET
teams trading down in the NHL draft is rare...not going to give up a guy who may be ready to play for later 1st round or 2nd round picks...

that nashville pick is going to be around 28-31 barring a first round exit (not likely)
it would take more than those 2 picks for a top 3 pick to bite...

- bogiedoc

Maybe the Hawks could trade Anisimov to Montreal (who REALLY need center help) for two 2nd round picks (they have FOUR 2nd rounders!!!). I believe that would give the Hawks plenty of ammunition to move up into the top 5.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Mar 25 @ 11:12 AM ET
Blackhawks called up Edjsell.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 25 @ 11:19 AM ET
Sorry to do it Darth, but Bob McKenzie has confirmed it....


Bob McKenzie

Verified account

@TSNBobMcKenzie
5h5 hours ago
More Bob McKenzie Retweeted Mark Lazerus
As @MarkLazerus has reported, likely only a matter of days until Northeastern’s Dylan Sikura is signed and in CHI lineup. Two sides expected to get the ball rolling on formalities (contract/immigration) in the next day or so:

- dahawks8819


Not happening. #fakenews
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Mar 25 @ 11:20 AM ET
And don’t overlook the fact that they took Jokiharju over future STUD scorer, Tolvanen, when Jokiharju was rated as a mid-2nd round prospect. That one is going to hurt for years, especially since we’ll be seeing him in Nashville every year. If it’s me, Bowman goes, and Q stays (unless Trotz is available). Problem is, if Bowman goes I believe Norm MacIver would be promoted rather than someone with a fresh perspective from outside the organization.
- hawks2010



Saw a story that Q is good friends with the Sikura family. Hence he went to a game last month. That info tells me Q is here next year. I agree though, we need some changes and Bowman is good place to start.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 25 @ 11:33 AM ET
Blackhawks called up Edjsell.
- GPHawksfan


Might as well see what the kid can do. For the record, I still don’t like the Hartman trade.

Back to the topic of college free agents...I’d like to see the Hawks sign Daniel Brickley from Minnesota State. The team can certainly use more depth in the defensive prospect pool.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 25 @ 11:39 AM ET
They just laid off their Hawks reporter yesterday.
- pdx2ord


But the keep Eric Zorn Jeez. Most of the news articles start from WaPo or The Amazon Tribune. The publication is a joke.
StLBravesFan
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 25 @ 11:45 AM ET
But the keep Eric Zorn Jeez. Most of the news articles start from WaPo or The Amazon Tribune. The publication is a joke.
- riozzo

WaPo is a very good newspaper - best on the political beat (better than the NYT) - much to my surprise under Bezos.

It does seem that many of the Trib’s national stories (especially the features) come from the Post.

We’ll also have to see what Sinclair does to WGN - nothing good, I fear.

A sad state of affairs for one of America’s (and the world’s) great cities (and it is, no matter what Trump and McCarthy say).
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Mar 25 @ 11:50 AM ET
And don’t overlook the fact that they took Jokiharju over future STUD scorer, Tolvanen, when Jokiharju was rated as a mid-2nd round prospect. That one is going to hurt for years, especially since we’ll be seeing him in Nashville every year. If it’s me, Bowman goes, and Q stays (unless Trotz is available). Problem is, if Bowman goes I believe Norm MacIver would be promoted rather than someone with a fresh perspective from outside the organization.
- hawks2010


That typically happens when you deviate from a BPA strategy to filling a specific position when drafting.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 25 @ 11:55 AM ET
Blackhawks called up Edjsell.
- GPHawksfan

They saw enough in two gp in Rockford to warrant a brief look in the NHL. They also want him aware of things to work on (I am sure).

He can prepare for a roster spot next fall by playing more AHL... IF IF IF IF..... Icehogs made playoffs. Another point is that when he signed he may have been promised a game or two this season NHL.

I see a big size kid whom probably had growth issues/balance at an esrlier age. If this is true, it may be viewed as a good thing since 1) get growth ijssue out of the way vis-a-vis his hockey development; and 2) he already knows that with patience and effort he can overcome, he can improve. He has that experience. It breeds confidance.

And by playing professional North America a large size guy like him FURTHERMORE gets a feel for the phyicality of the game over here. Since Edjsell will be one of the largest size players on the nhl roster (eventually), he will be tested. Teams know if you can intimidate the big guys (or the big guys will not have push back), then the opponent will try to run amok.

Next: as a consolation prize .....moving up to the 5th spot we may miss on Tzachuk but the russian kid would be our new Hossa. Perhaps sooner than you think given his desire to backcheck. Perhaps a prospect and both first round choices could bring us the higher #1. As a throw in a team may like grabbing a low cost with some nhl experience puck mover in our current bottom group.

Await Tuolola playing AHL and the German league sign. There are some NCAA drafts whom could leave school early

I am anxious to see development of the Penn State kid. Another Burrrish only meaner? Gilbert is still playing as Notre Dame made Frozen Four. Gilbert and possibly Hillman leaving school one year early represent toughness but first they have to prove solid in the AHL.

Good to see Iocopelli score now back at Rockford. Samuelson has been scoring consistently since joining Rockford. Snuggerud returned to lineup but Forsling apparently still injured.

An inexpensive element of toughness with Samuelson and Martinsen goes a long way in making us tough enough/push back. You need role players whom get occassional shifts in a third line so that they get a few points. The fourth line is where at least one of them starts. With Salary Cap increase we could carry Wingels + BOTH Samuelson and Martinsen. Kampf could be the superior center as 4C.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 25 @ 11:59 AM ET
WaPo is a very good newspaper - best on the political beat (better than the NYT) - much to my surprise under Bezos.

It does seem that many of the Trib’s national stories (especially the features) come from the Post.

We’ll also have to see what Sinclair does to WGN - nothing good, I fear.

A sad state of affairs for one of America’s (and the world’s) great cities (and it is, no matter what Trump and McCarthy say).

- StLBravesFan


I disagree here, just my $0.02.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Mar 25 @ 12:15 PM ET
Not happening. #fakenews
- DarthKane

Likely a sign and trade.
35Tony0
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Mar 25 @ 12:24 PM ET
I disagree here, just my $0.02.
- riozzo

Seconded.
StLBravesFan
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:33 PM ET
I disagree here, just my $0.02.
- riozzo

Probably all depends on your political point of view.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 25 @ 12:40 PM ET
Seconded.
- 35Tony0

Justin,

What are you hearing; what do you think is the outcome as far as Sikura signs with us?
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 25 @ 12:41 PM ET
Probably all depends on your political point of view.
- StLBravesFan



some of that some personal preference for what is news and what is opinion coated as news.
StLBravesFan
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:53 PM ET
some of that some personal preference for what is news and what is opinion coated as news.
- riozzo

We all think that “opposition media” coats news with opinion but that media we agree with don’t.

I will probably never be able to convince you that the more Democratic Post or NYT are objective news sources; you will probably never be able to convince me that any Murdock-owned press (or the Tribune) presents straight facts anywhere.

But in reality, the news holes of the major media (yes, even Fox cable news and the WSJ - and the Post and Times) Do a pretty good job of separating opinion from fact.

But - that’s just my news junkie’s opinion.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
We all think that “opposition media” coats news with opinion but that media we agree with don’t.

I will probably never be able to convince you that the more Democratic Post or NYT are objective news sources; you will probably never be able to convince me that any Murdock-owned press (or the Tribune) presents straight facts anywhere.

But in reality, the news holes of the major media (yes, even Fox cable news and the WSJ - and the Post and Times) Do a pretty good job of separating opinion from fact.

But - that’s just my news junkie’s opinion.

- StLBravesFan

Cool. nice to have a civil conversation on the topic. Most revert to the left or right rhetoric.
StLBravesFan
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Mar 25 @ 1:18 PM ET
Cool. nice to have a civil conversation on the topic. Most revert to the left or right rhetoric.
- riozzo


This democracy (any democracy) works best when governed by a center-left and a center-right party - crossing the center line depending on the issue.

While my personal preferences might be more liberal-progressive, I will not support candidates like Sanders or Warren (whose policy proposals I may more agree with) over a more moderate candidate who is willing to modify, accommodate, and compromise the political process. Sanders and Warren (and comparables on the right) cannot govern, cannot accommodate the approximately half of the country that disagrees with them.

We must somehow bring the (small-“d”) democracy back to the center.

I just wish I knew how.
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Mar 25 @ 1:25 PM ET
If the hawks do think edijesll is a center and could be AA replacement then maybe package AA duclair rights or vinny and Nashville's pick the hawks got in the hartman trade and move back in top 10 draft tkachuck with 7 overall pick if he still there then the hawks with that package get the 10th overall pick from whatever team rangers say and draft a d man say dobson smith etc... One possible idea or AA to Montreal for 2 2nd rounders like someone mention would not be a bad idea. Take the AA money and go get a top 4 d man or 2 soild d man with nhl experience and been in the league for awhile.
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