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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 27 @ 11:31 AM ET
Michael Pachla: On the Evander Kane to San Jose' Sharks trade, plus O'Regan/Amerks
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 27 @ 11:37 AM ET
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TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 27 @ 11:39 AM ET
I was led to believe the return was 3 "premium" assets and thus a deserving "Stick Tap" to Botterill for patiently waiting till he got this moneyload return
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 27 @ 11:41 AM ET
Great, 2,000 more posts about Kane and the trade. Can't wait.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Feb 27 @ 11:44 AM ET
Just to put the barrage of Nash/Kane value to bed, look at this from a pure rental perspective.

Nash-Olympic Gold medal winner, Playoff experience, leadership qualities

Kane-History of external trouble, reported locker room cancer, zero playoff experience

We got, what has to be assumed to be, the best return available for Kane.

The Blues reported today they were trying to use the first they acquired for Stastny to "add a piece to bolster their offence, but the RIGHT player was not available" They did not want Kane for a first. So, Botts got er done, no one wants our junk, and we will get a top 3 pick in a very top heavy draft class.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 11:46 AM ET
I was led to believe the return was 3 "premium" assets and thus a deserving "Stick Tap" to Botterill for patiently waiting till he got this moneyload return
- TheGame316


Treasure trove.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Feb 27 @ 11:50 AM ET
And, I hope Kane has a great playoffs and signs a contract with the Sharks so we get our first. Of not, so be it.
drewster99
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.21.2014

Feb 27 @ 11:52 AM ET
The Sabres play Tampa tomorrow, not tonight.
CrownedKing
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Garden Grove, CA
Joined: 01.06.2015

Feb 27 @ 11:53 AM ET
Only when discussing Evander Kane is a different playing yelling at him at practice held against him as further proof of a character flaw
SJ made a solid trade, I'd have made it, but to say they have a young core is wrong. They have a ton of cap space, but aging core, and not many prospects. If they re-sign Kane, will go a long way to adding some life to the core.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Feb 27 @ 11:54 AM ET
Treasure trove.
- Iggysbff



You guys getting ready for the playoffs? Oh, wait... never mind.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Feb 27 @ 11:54 AM ET
Great, 2,000 more posts about Kane and the trade. Can't wait.
- SABRES 89

Which Kane trade are you talking about?
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Feb 27 @ 11:56 AM ET
Only when discussing Evander Kane is a different playing yelling at him at practice held against him as further proof of a character flaw
SJ made a solid trade, I'd have made it, but to say they have a young core is wrong. They have a ton of cap space, but aging core, and not many prospects. If they re-sign Kane, will go a long way to adding some life to the core.

- CrownedKing



I hope they sign kane so we get that 1st, then push that 1st back to 2020 where that old core finally collapses.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 27 @ 11:56 AM ET
Is there a reason to watch this team the rest of the year?

I see no way this team isn't in the same position (Basement dweller) next year as well.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Feb 27 @ 12:00 PM ET
Is there a reason to watch this team the rest of the year?

I see no way this team isn't in the same position (Basement dweller) next year as well.

- ImThatGuy


We can watch Nelson develop some more. He will be a contributor to whichever team he chooses to join next year.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Feb 27 @ 12:00 PM ET
Just to put the barrage of Nash/Kane value to bed, look at this from a pure rental perspective.

Nash-Olympic Gold medal winner, Playoff experience, leadership qualities

Kane-History of external trouble, reported locker room cancer, zero playoff experience

We got, what has to be assumed to be, the best return available for Kane.

The Blues reported today they were trying to use the first they acquired for Stastny to "add a piece to bolster their offence, but the RIGHT player was not available" They did not want Kane for a first. So, Botts got er done, no one wants our junk, and we will get a top 3 pick in a very top heavy draft class.

- lulags


If you came in here a week ago and said that Kane's off ice history would lower his return you would have been laughed out of here. On Sunday I said that people don't like Kane and GMs were hesitant to add him to their dressing rooms and a Buffalo fan told me I had no idea what I was talking about. That's why people think the trade is kind of funny.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 27 @ 12:01 PM ET
The Sabres play Tampa tomorrow, not tonight.
- drewster99

oops
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 27 @ 12:04 PM ET
If you came in here a week ago and said that Kane's off ice history would lower his return you would have been laughed out of here. On Sunday I said that people don't like Kane and GMs were hesitant to add him to their dressing rooms and a Buffalo fan told me I had no idea what I was talking about. That's why people think the trade is kind of funny.
- Jeffmt


There was a massive split here between Buffalo fans of what Kane's values was.

I fell on the lower end and was unfortunately right.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 27 @ 12:05 PM ET
Only when discussing Evander Kane is a different playing yelling at him at practice held against him as further proof of a character flaw
SJ made a solid trade, I'd have made it, but to say they have a young core is wrong. They have a ton of cap space, but aging core, and not many prospects. If they re-sign Kane, will go a long way to adding some life to the core.

- CrownedKing

correct...in the context of what's transpired with him, and with the team as a whole, it did turn into a big thing
BareMetal
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.15.2017

Feb 27 @ 12:11 PM ET
There were quite a few Kane fanboys here.. still are. Good riddance.
Shadman306
Joined: 06.11.2015

Feb 27 @ 12:12 PM ET
Regardless of his return and all of the arguments here on Kane, does anyone else find themselves hoping he really lights it up in San Jose? (and not just to better the chances of a first round pick)
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 27 @ 12:15 PM ET
I don't give a poop


Ive moved on to ROR

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 12:15 PM ET
Does JB not offer him anything and let him walk?
- PrinceChill


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 12:16 PM ET
Sam's turned around his poopty start. So has Okposo.

We'll hear more about both of them in the OS, especially Sam.

Botts mentioned how most kids his age are in the AHL or similar and that he's still a young developing player and that it's important to develop him correctly. He's done very well lately and is much closer to the player we expected when we drafted him. Continue his strong play to the end of the year and get yourself a nice bridge deal around 4.

Feels the same about Nylander. The "just 19" comment was said, and he's seeing some nice things from Nylander. I expect good things from him next season in Rochester. Needs a healthy offseason and solid training camp. I don't care if he's ready for the NHL. I care that he's developing like an uber talented first round player should.
BareMetal
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.15.2017

Feb 27 @ 12:17 PM ET
There was a massive split here between Buffalo fans of what Kane's values was.

I fell on the lower end and was unfortunately right.

- ImThatGuy


Unfortunately, we brought on the wrong GM to handle the rebuild in GMTM.. He really (frank)ed us.

I'm definitely a supporter of GMJB.

And if Pegula did in fact make it apparent that Kane was not to be resigned, I'm behind him on that too. Pegula loves Buffalo, cares about it's people, it's image, and the Sabres image. Kane's constant BS was a thorn in his side.

We're better off without him.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 27 @ 12:20 PM ET
Sam's turned around his poopty start. So has Okposo.

We'll hear more about both of them in the OS, especially Sam.

Botts mentioned how most kids his age are in the AHL or similar and that he's still a young developing player and that it's important to develop him correctly. He's done very well lately and is much closer to the player we expected when we drafted him. Continue his strong play to the end of the year and get yourself a nice bridge deal around 4.

Feels the same about Nylander. The "just 19" comment was said, and he's seeing some nice things from Nylander. I expect good things from him next season in Rochester. Needs a healthy offseason and solid training camp. I don't care if he's ready for the NHL. I care that he's developing like an uber talented first round player should.

- TheSabresTaco


interesting note from baker yesterday...nylander lived with cal o'reilly his first year, the same cal o'reilly who as a miserable s.o.b. and couldn't wait to get out
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